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Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! [message #410942 is a reply to message #410929]

Mon, 16 November 2009 05:20

EvilWhiteDragon
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Goztow wrote on Mon, 16 November 2009 08:42

In renegade, the MRL is generally used as a support vehicle, and to gain time until one can go up one tier to mediums. GDI is all about armour.

Nod generally lacks armour on all its vehicles. Therefor it has more firepower in its lower tier. The main objective, which works out just like it should with pointsfix (oh no, here we go again), for Nod is to harass GDI until they're out of money and then bring in the dead streak, usually being flamers or stanks. The main objective for GDI is to secure their economy and then bring in the dead streak, usually meds / ions.

In renegade, the difference between soldiers and mrl / art isn't just a matter of balance between those units, it's a matter of balance between different gaming styles. By "balancing" the mrl and art out to eachother, you kind of break the Renegade fight for economy. The mistake you make ion your reasoning is that mediums and lights/stanks/flamers balance eachother out. They never do. In a fight between medium tanks and lights/stanks/flamers on standard maps, medium tanks will always win. Always. It's just a matter of keeping the playing field closed. And the more players there are in the game, the more this will be true.

But then again, as long as you don't implement pointsfix in Renegade-X, the complete economy will be broken anyway because one can gain 100's of credits by shooting a vehicle without damaging it.

I'm not trying to convince you to change Renegade-X. I understood you want it to be different than Renegade and I personally see this as a positive thing. I'm just trying to explain to you how I experience the impact of your changes.

The irony is that they claim to implement the pointbug (because 'everyone' wants it) and in the meanwhile they do the easy thing, implement renepoints with pointfix....

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		Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: [NE]Fobby[GEN] on Sat, 14 November 2009 11:38
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: slosha on Sat, 14 November 2009 12:00
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: YazooGang on Sat, 14 November 2009 12:04
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: HaTe on Sat, 14 November 2009 12:40
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: YazooGang on Sat, 14 November 2009 13:26
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: [NE]Fobby[GEN] on Sat, 14 November 2009 13:31
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: YazooGang on Sat, 14 November 2009 14:27
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: The Party on Mon, 16 November 2009 15:09
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: [NE]Fobby[GEN] on Sat, 14 November 2009 14:40
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: YazooGang on Sat, 14 November 2009 15:00
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: Sladewill on Sat, 14 November 2009 14:40
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: R315r4z0r on Sat, 14 November 2009 14:54
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: [NE]Fobby[GEN] on Sat, 14 November 2009 15:01
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: YazooGang on Sat, 14 November 2009 15:18
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: Speedy059 on Sat, 14 November 2009 14:49
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: Sladewill on Sat, 14 November 2009 18:08
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Sat, 14 November 2009 18:12
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: slosha on Sat, 14 November 2009 18:45
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: Altzan on Sat, 14 November 2009 20:09
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: EvilWhiteDragon on Sun, 15 November 2009 09:41
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: ErroR on Sun, 15 November 2009 05:55
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: [NE]Fobby[GEN] on Sun, 15 November 2009 12:40
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: Altzan on Sun, 15 November 2009 14:27
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: ArtyWh0re on Sun, 15 November 2009 13:15
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: CarrierII on Sun, 15 November 2009 13:25
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: Goztow on Sun, 15 November 2009 14:35
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Sun, 15 November 2009 15:01
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: [NE]Fobby[GEN] on Sun, 15 November 2009 15:03
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Sun, 15 November 2009 15:08
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: R315r4z0r on Sun, 15 November 2009 20:34
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: Dover on Sun, 15 November 2009 22:28
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: R315r4z0r on Mon, 16 November 2009 09:43
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: F1r3st0rm on Sun, 15 November 2009 22:34
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: Goztow on Mon, 16 November 2009 00:42
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: EvilWhiteDragon on Mon, 16 November 2009 05:20
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: [NE]Fobby[GEN] on Mon, 16 November 2009 13:04
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: EvilWhiteDragon on Mon, 16 November 2009 13:15
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: [NE]Fobby[GEN] on Mon, 16 November 2009 16:06
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: Havoc 89 on Mon, 16 November 2009 22:26
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: EvilWhiteDragon on Tue, 17 November 2009 01:51
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Tue, 17 November 2009 08:51
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: EvilWhiteDragon on Tue, 17 November 2009 09:50
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: Goztow on Tue, 17 November 2009 00:56
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: [NE]Fobby[GEN] on Tue, 17 November 2009 10:37
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: EvilWhiteDragon on Wed, 18 November 2009 03:13
		Re: Renegade X - 0.40 Launch! By: Goztow on Wed, 18 November 2009 01:59

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