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Wed, 28 October 2009 07:10

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ZeLL wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 07:58

drive you away? you mean the fact you told the jelly community that you think we should only get half the ladder because were not using your pointsfix?

Firstly it's not 'my' pointsfix. Secondly this is a compromise over the original position, which was to not allow pointsbug servers to be laddered at all.

The ladder weighting system is, I think, a good idea. Some server settings are clearly more strategic than others; do you not agree that a server with 0 start credits is more strategic than one with 9999 start credits? So we came up with a weighting system. eg if donate is on then that's -20%, another -10% if weapon drops are on, etc. Pointsfix makes the game more strategic in so many ways (even most of the anti-pointsfix crowd have conceded this) so what's wrong with giving that a positive weight on the ladder?

Everyone generally agreed that the weighting system itself was a good idea, but they couldn't stand the idea of the pointsfix being one of the criteria, even though the very same people (for the most part) had already conceded that the pointsfix is fairer and more strategic than the pointsbug.

ZeLL wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 07:58

if so then obviously some people are going to take that badly cause people like simpee etc obviously hate the pointsfix maybe they didnt have to bring shit up which happened in the past to try and disencourage people to play it(i agree maybe it was a bit too much)

Change the word "bring" for "make" and you're nearer the mark.

ZeLL wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 07:58

but still its obviously clear you intimidate them because of how ridiculously far you go to get this points fix on every server( you can't say you didnt try disencouraging people to play in jelly because they would only get half the ladder then in a pointsfix server)
your both as bad as the other in this regard
if anything each of you is trying to drive away the other

No, I was trying to make the official ladder as fair as possible, to make it actually worth something.

And don't go saying simpee and I are "both as bad as the other". I'm absolutely fine with a community choosing not to use the pointsfix. Really, I am. Simpee has said many times that I should not be allowed to use the pointsfix in my community. Not only that but when I wanted to use the pointsfix first time around, he was part of a campaign of lies and manipulation and sabotage to subvert the admin's decision. No, don't go saying we're both as bad as each other.

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