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My trusty (six? year old) Creative Zen-Vision:M is dying, the random crashes that have plagued it (previously brought on by cold weather, but now just by the player moving when I move) have increased in frequency and it's getting harder to use. Sad

The trouble is, I do a lot of work and things outside, and therefore my requirements are a little... odd. My Zen, being a large, well constructed brick, has survived:

6 drops down my stairs (OK, this is more my clumsiness...),
A drop into the bath (accidental) whilst operating,
A drop onto a tiled floor from at least 4'
and exposure to farm enviroments (lots of rain, shit and animals trying to eat it, or tread on it etc).

Before I start: Apple IPods are too flimsy, and I dislike I-Tunes, and I want to be able to assemble WMD with my media player if I so choose... etc - No Apple products please.

1) Durability, my new player needs to be tough. Recheck the list of what my Zen has survived, size and weight aren't really concerns, I'm used to my Zen.

2) Stability, if it's HDD based, then it needs to be able to tolerate operating shocks, my car has no suspension, I'll be riding horses soon etc

3) Battery life.

4) Capacity, I only need ~8 GB, so this doesn't have to be huge.

Does anyone have any suggestions. Please note I live in the UK. I'm not too bothered about brand, but I will reiterate my personal issue with Apple.

Any suggestions?


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I'd say buy a 2nd hand zen, like the one u had Razz.

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Goztow wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 14:41

I'd say buy a 2nd hand zen, like the one u had Razz.


The trouble is with 2nd hand, is that you can't get any form of garuntee on the life time, and I would like to make an investment (like the Zen was).


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CarrierII wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 16:02

Sad

My trusty (six? year old) Creative Zen-Vision:M is dying, the random crashes that have plagued it (previously brought on by cold weather, but now just by the player moving when I move) have increased in frequency and it's getting harder to use. Sad

The trouble is, I do a lot of work and things outside, and therefore my requirements are a little... odd. My Zen, being a large, well constructed brick, has survived:

6 drops down my stairs (OK, this is more my clumsiness...),
A drop into the bath (accidental) whilst operating,
A drop onto a tiled floor from at least 4'
and exposure to farm enviroments (lots of rain, shit and animals trying to eat it, or tread on it etc).

Before I start: Apple IPods are too flimsy, and I dislike I-Tunes, and I want to be able to assemble WMD with my media player if I so choose... etc - No Apple products please.

1) Durability, my new player needs to be tough. Recheck the list of what my Zen has survived, size and weight aren't really concerns, I'm used to my Zen.

2) Stability, if it's HDD based, then it needs to be able to tolerate operating shocks, my car has no suspension, I'll be riding horses soon etc

3) Battery life.

4) Capacity, I only need ~8 GB, so this doesn't have to be huge.

Does anyone have any suggestions. Please note I live in the UK. I'm not too bothered about brand, but I will reiterate my personal issue with Apple.

Any suggestions?

http://tinyurl.com/yg872fn


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Re: MP3 Player buying advice [message #406567 is a reply to message #406556] Sun, 11 October 2009 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: MP3 Player buying advice [message #406568 is a reply to message #406556] Sun, 11 October 2009 09:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When i saw my "zen vision m is dieing" I thought to myself impossible.

I've had my 30gb zen vision:m for 7 years now and the thing has taken a beating from over usage, cement floors, extreme heat and extreme cold.

As mentioned, I would even recommend getting a used one (fucking creative not continueing the larger sized mp3 models >_< ... disapointing ). I agree completely with you about the ipods Smile

Although if you wanted something of equivalence, I was considering getting a zune 120gb IF my creative were to ever die.


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Re: MP3 Player buying advice [message #406569 is a reply to message #406556] Sun, 11 October 2009 09:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My phone, Sony Ericsson W810 supports cards up to 4Gb. That has been dropped down stairs, kicked around, dropped in a cup of hot coffee and it's still going strong. I'm sure you can get an 8Gb version of the same sort of phone. It will even play movies, I can get about 10 full movies on mine.
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jnz does yours allow any standard headphones? I have a k850i ericcson and absolutely love it and like you have the 4gb flash.. BUT you need the "ericsson" headphones meaning can't use any third party or different styled headphones.

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Re: MP3 Player buying advice [message #406571 is a reply to message #406556] Sun, 11 October 2009 09:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LOL OMG IPOD AND ZUNE R ONLY CHOICES AND ZUNE R SUXX!!1
IPODS R SOOOO GOOD AND HIP!

serious: Just get the same as what you had but a bit better. Usually, they'll use the same model, just more storage.


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Re: MP3 Player buying advice [message #406573 is a reply to message #406556] Sun, 11 October 2009 10:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd recommend a Zune which has flash memory, but battery life isn't that great, and since you're in the UK, you won't be able to use any Zune Marketplace functions.

Have you checked out anything by Sandisk? Usually they're pretty good, and the battery life is often impressive.


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Re: MP3 Player buying advice [message #406574 is a reply to message #406565] Sun, 11 October 2009 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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archerman wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 16:55

CarrierII wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 16:02

Sad

My trusty (six? year old) Creative Zen-Vision:M is dying, the random crashes that have plagued it (previously brought on by cold weather, but now just by the player moving when I move) have increased in frequency and it's getting harder to use. Sad

The trouble is, I do a lot of work and things outside, and therefore my requirements are a little... odd. My Zen, being a large, well constructed brick, has survived:

6 drops down my stairs (OK, this is more my clumsiness...),
A drop into the bath (accidental) whilst operating,
A drop onto a tiled floor from at least 4'
and exposure to farm enviroments (lots of rain, shit and animals trying to eat it, or tread on it etc).

Before I start: Apple IPods are too flimsy, and I dislike I-Tunes, and I want to be able to assemble WMD with my media player if I so choose... etc - No Apple products please.

1) Durability, my new player needs to be tough. Recheck the list of what my Zen has survived, size and weight aren't really concerns, I'm used to my Zen.

2) Stability, if it's HDD based, then it needs to be able to tolerate operating shocks, my car has no suspension, I'll be riding horses soon etc

3) Battery life.

4) Capacity, I only need ~8 GB, so this doesn't have to be huge.

Does anyone have any suggestions. Please note I live in the UK. I'm not too bothered about brand, but I will reiterate my personal issue with Apple.

Any suggestions?

http://tinyurl.com/yg872fn


I'd let you off of that if it PRODUCED FUCKING USEFUL RESULTS. You're on thin ice.

On topic:
I was simply wondering whether anyone had any testimonials, that's all.

I'll check out Sandisk.


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Re: MP3 Player buying advice [message #406575 is a reply to message #406556] Sun, 11 October 2009 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: MP3 Player buying advice [message #406576 is a reply to message #406574] Sun, 11 October 2009 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CarrierII wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 20:41

archerman wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 16:55

CarrierII wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 16:02

Sad

My trusty (six? year old) Creative Zen-Vision:M is dying, the random crashes that have plagued it (previously brought on by cold weather, but now just by the player moving when I move) have increased in frequency and it's getting harder to use. Sad

The trouble is, I do a lot of work and things outside, and therefore my requirements are a little... odd. My Zen, being a large, well constructed brick, has survived:

6 drops down my stairs (OK, this is more my clumsiness...),
A drop into the bath (accidental) whilst operating,
A drop onto a tiled floor from at least 4'
and exposure to farm enviroments (lots of rain, shit and animals trying to eat it, or tread on it etc).

Before I start: Apple IPods are too flimsy, and I dislike I-Tunes, and I want to be able to assemble WMD with my media player if I so choose... etc - No Apple products please.

1) Durability, my new player needs to be tough. Recheck the list of what my Zen has survived, size and weight aren't really concerns, I'm used to my Zen.

2) Stability, if it's HDD based, then it needs to be able to tolerate operating shocks, my car has no suspension, I'll be riding horses soon etc

3) Battery life.

4) Capacity, I only need ~8 GB, so this doesn't have to be huge.

Does anyone have any suggestions. Please note I live in the UK. I'm not too bothered about brand, but I will reiterate my personal issue with Apple.

Any suggestions?

http://tinyurl.com/yg872fn


I'd let you off of that if it PRODUCED FUCKING USEFUL RESULTS. You're on thin ice.

On topic:
I was simply wondering whether anyone had any testimonials, that's all.

I'll check out Sandisk.

what is wrong with that reply?


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CarrierII wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 12:41


I'll check out Sandisk.


I forgot to mention too, that the Sandisk doesn't use proprietary software, so you can just use WMP11/12 to sync. The only thing is that the audio quality will likely not be as good as a Creative or Zune competitor, but that's of little concern for most people.


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Look for a older model Creative Zen Touch, you can get the 20 GB ones for about £60 new on eBay, they are like bricks but all so worth it.

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archerman wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 13:46

CarrierII wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 20:41

archerman wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 16:55

CarrierII wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 16:02

Sad

My trusty (six? year old) Creative Zen-Vision:M is dying, the random crashes that have plagued it (previously brought on by cold weather, but now just by the player moving when I move) have increased in frequency and it's getting harder to use. Sad

The trouble is, I do a lot of work and things outside, and therefore my requirements are a little... odd. My Zen, being a large, well constructed brick, has survived:

6 drops down my stairs (OK, this is more my clumsiness...),
A drop into the bath (accidental) whilst operating,
A drop onto a tiled floor from at least 4'
and exposure to farm enviroments (lots of rain, shit and animals trying to eat it, or tread on it etc).

Before I start: Apple IPods are too flimsy, and I dislike I-Tunes, and I want to be able to assemble WMD with my media player if I so choose... etc - No Apple products please.

1) Durability, my new player needs to be tough. Recheck the list of what my Zen has survived, size and weight aren't really concerns, I'm used to my Zen.

2) Stability, if it's HDD based, then it needs to be able to tolerate operating shocks, my car has no suspension, I'll be riding horses soon etc

3) Battery life.

4) Capacity, I only need ~8 GB, so this doesn't have to be huge.

Does anyone have any suggestions. Please note I live in the UK. I'm not too bothered about brand, but I will reiterate my personal issue with Apple.

Any suggestions?

http://tinyurl.com/yg872fn


I'd let you off of that if it PRODUCED FUCKING USEFUL RESULTS. You're on thin ice.

On topic:
I was simply wondering whether anyone had any testimonials, that's all.

I'll check out Sandisk.

what is wrong with that reply?

Can you not read his first statement to you? Did you even check the results for the search that did? None on the first page are even useful. Most on the first page aren't even related to his situation or what you typed for the search.

I also find it funny when someone posts one of those links. Obviously, if someone is asking for advice here (or anywhere), they don't give a crap for Google results.


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Hmm, I found this topic on www.anythingbutipod.com: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42560

Looks like I'm not the only one. I wonder how advisable repair attempts are...


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CarrierII wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 13:31

Hmm, I found this topic on www.anythingbutipod.com: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42560

Looks like I'm not the only one. I wonder how advisable repair attempts are...



It's already an old player, so you don't have much to lose. If I were in the same situation, I'd be trying to fix the thing I like, as opposed to plunking down money on something new.


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As it was a simple thing to do, I disassembled the player, reconnected the battery and HDD and reassembled it. It boots fine, but I'll test it over the next week for cutting out etc. I'll post again. In the meantime, this thread can be about how awesome Zen-Vision:M's are.


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I would get a Zune then. If you want to pay for your music, they only charge a monthly fee of like $15 or something for unlimited music downloads.

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Oh man, mine has gone through so much abuse.

When I first got it, I thought that using the pouch it comes with would protect the screen from scratches. Hah, hahaha. (hint: it did the opposite)

It doesn't bother me though. It still works beautifully. It's a stable storage device that has never let me down. Ever. Beat that, flash memory sticks. I want to put rockbox on this thing to play FLAC files, but I'm absolutely satisfied with it just playing V0 mp3s as of now.

I don't usually watch videos on it, but it's great to have for long, boring road trips and you happen to have Monty Python episodes you can throw on there.

I wish this thing were a bit thinner, but if that means switching to any Apple products, you can count me out.


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andr3w282 wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 17:37

jnz does yours allow any standard headphones? I have a k850i ericcson and absolutely love it and like you have the 4gb flash.. BUT you need the "ericsson" headphones meaning can't use any third party or different styled headphones.


You can have any headphones with a standard jack Smile but you need an adapter thing that plugs into the bottom, for hands-free.
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nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 13:18

I'd recommend a Zune which has flash memory, but battery life isn't that great, and since you're in the UK, you won't be able to use any Zune Marketplace functions.

Have you checked out anything by Sandisk? Usually they're pretty good, and the battery life is often impressive.


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Glock~ wrote on Sun, 11 October 2009 12:16

I would get a Zune then. If you want to pay for your music, they only charge a monthly fee of like $15 or something for unlimited music downloads.


>Implying he would be paying for music with any other Mp3 player.


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Go for an iPod Shuffle because it talks to you!!!

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