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Re: Skins question [message #405021 is a reply to message #392482] |
Fri, 02 October 2009 13:53   |
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IAmFenix
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StealthEye wrote on Sat, 27 June 2009 03:21 | The idea is that the server can provide these packages and make them required for the clients. The client can possibly have overrides that are allowed by the server (but this is in developement, I can't give details because changes may be made here).
Both situations seem perfectly possible with the current design for the resource manager though. 
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When this happens, I'm going to quit renegade, and never look back.
Yes, for real this time, I will quit renegade, because skinning was the only reason I came back, and if one of MY skins was disallowed simply because of this, I would /ragequit, and listen to my friends saying "Yeah, that Renegayd game was a peice of shit."
And I could only agree if they say "is".
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Re: Skins question [message #405093 is a reply to message #405021] |
Sat, 03 October 2009 00:59   |
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EvilWhiteDragon
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IAmFenix wrote on Fri, 02 October 2009 22:53 |
StealthEye wrote on Sat, 27 June 2009 03:21 | The idea is that the server can provide these packages and make them required for the clients. The client can possibly have overrides that are allowed by the server (but this is in developement, I can't give details because changes may be made here).
Both situations seem perfectly possible with the current design for the resource manager though. 
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When this happens, I'm going to quit renegade, and never look back.
Yes, for real this time, I will quit renegade, because skinning was the only reason I came back, and if one of MY skins was disallowed simply because of this, I would /ragequit, and listen to my friends saying "Yeah, that Renegayd game was a peice of shit."
And I could only agree if they say "is".
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Good riddance!

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Re: Skins question [message #405186 is a reply to message #405121] |
Sat, 03 October 2009 13:30   |
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EvilWhiteDragon
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Altzan wrote on Sat, 03 October 2009 16:02 | Skins are a big factor in playing Ren for me (especially when it was a skin I made) but I have simply deleted all my skins before, reverting back to the original skins, and didn't mind it too much.
Skins are nice, but if it's a choice between skins and gameplay, gameplay wins by a landslide.
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If you made good skins and you want to use them with TT, you can always send them to the serverowner so he can add them to the allow list. That way you can even keep using your skins while using TT.
And, the advantage of TT is that even if the server does not allow your skins, you'll just load the default ones. If you then get in a server that does allow them, your skins will load.

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Re: Skins question [message #405229 is a reply to message #392443] |
Sun, 04 October 2009 04:18   |
Reaver11
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So if I get it correct all w3d files will currently be checked and switched to default? (Given that the server file checks)
So say it is my favorite server. All I have to do is then mail the serverowner the w3d so he can check and allow it? Seems easy done. Thing is wouldn't this give a lot of serverowners a headache? Like will TT maintain a list of skins that are allowed? (So serverowners can look at tt.ini which list a lot of the allowed skins?)
Also will it be possible to revert everyones hud to default with TT and only allow certain huds(like only skinned huds and no hud with minecounter etc)?
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Re: Skins question [message #406344 is a reply to message #405402] |
Fri, 09 October 2009 10:33   |
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Jerad2142
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Spoony wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 10:29 | please, please make it so that a server can disallow custom sounds... loud beacons and stank engines are so much more of an advantage than bright c4.
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I hope your kidding, most people play music while they play ren. I'd pick up on the bright yellow C4 a lot quicker than some little beep sound. Or a bright yellow beacon.
Remember, you guys are implementing wide-screen, which makes the game look better for some, but is viewed as a cheat from other's view points, at the same time you threaten to remove skins, which make the game look better for some, but others consider it a cheat.
Toggle SpoilerPeople like skins, and people like good graphics, I do believe ren now has some competition that is developing game-play that's a lot like ren, only thing it really doesn't have is the ability to skin, once that is gone, why not play the version that looks better?
Some people also believe that game-play > graphics, but thats an opinion really, just think about it, wouldn't their be a lot more people still playing ren if graphics really didn't matter?
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Re: Skins question [message #406531 is a reply to message #406344] |
Sat, 10 October 2009 18:39   |
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EvilWhiteDragon
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Jerad Gray wrote on Fri, 09 October 2009 19:33 |
Spoony wrote on Mon, 05 October 2009 10:29 | please, please make it so that a server can disallow custom sounds... loud beacons and stank engines are so much more of an advantage than bright c4.
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I hope your kidding, most people play music while they play ren. I'd pick up on the bright yellow C4 a lot quicker than some little beep sound. Or a bright yellow beacon.
Remember, you guys are implementing wide-screen, which makes the game look better for some, but is viewed as a cheat from other's view points, at the same time you threaten to remove skins, which make the game look better for some, but others consider it a cheat.
Toggle SpoilerPeople like skins, and people like good graphics, I do believe ren now has some competition that is developing game-play that's a lot like ren, only thing it really doesn't have is the ability to skin, once that is gone, why not play the version that looks better?
Some people also believe that game-play > graphics, but thats an opinion really, just think about it, wouldn't their be a lot more people still playing ren if graphics really didn't matter?
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Widescreen doesnt change much. You just get the pixels ordered differently. You'll lose some view down and at the top, and get some left and right.
Also, if you would read, then you would've noticed that we are giving serverowners the option to allow, disallow or whitelist skins.

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