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n00b question [message #402931] Tue, 15 September 2009 16:41 Go to next message
ChewML is currently offline  ChewML
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The thread about listing the programs we use to mod Renegade got me thinking a lil bit (dangerous, I know).

What is the easiest way to view what skins look like on the models?

I downloaded the w3d viewer and it seems easy enough for me to use, but I just don't like it for some reason. So I normally just load up Ren,join a server, hope I am on the right team, and wait till I get a chan ce to see what I made.

I was wondering if anyone knew of any other n00b friendly program that I could use just for viewing DDS files and maybe take SS with?

I have searched every tutorial site that I am aware of and downloaded a lot of the different common programs listed in the other thread, but like I said... I am nearly completely computer illiterate. It was a miracle that I could figure out how to make simple skins in the first place, lol.
Re: n00b question [message #402933 is a reply to message #402931] Tue, 15 September 2009 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just start up ren and select:
"multiplay lan - host game - set number of players to 1 - *click gameplay* set credits to 99999 - *click advanced* uncheck dedicated server and check manual teaming - *click map cycle* select the map you want. Then finally select start game"

That's probably the quickest way to do it, and as long as your only editing dds files, dtx1 aswel. You can add textures into the game as its running. Plus the settings are remembered, so you just click host game - start game after the first time.


Re: n00b question [message #402935 is a reply to message #402931] Tue, 15 September 2009 17:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I guess I never tried setting players to 1, because it always did the gameplay pending to me... so I would have to use 2 pcs. Like I said I am a n00b, lol. Blush

Here is another question though, which program do people use to take the awesome SS used in signatures or wallpapers? I can kinda use w3d viewer for this, but it seems to make some things look crappy. Huh
Re: n00b question [message #402959 is a reply to message #402935] Wed, 16 September 2009 03:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't understand what you're asking.
I personally haven't seen an awesome Renegade themed signature around here. But ehhhm, screenshot ingame, then use PS to cut around the focal would be my best guess.


Re: n00b question [message #402967 is a reply to message #402931] Wed, 16 September 2009 04:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Blur the aliased edges of the focal point. That's what I did with pawkyfox's wallpaper Rocked Over

http://www.ren40k.net/RenX40kSignature.jpg
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Re: n00b question [message #402981 is a reply to message #402967] Wed, 16 September 2009 07:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can use the XCC tools to look through the always files.

Then if you need to convert them from .dds you can use this program, it doesn't work quite right with vista/7 but it still works if you push it a little. DDS2TGAV 2.1
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I completely misread that, w3d viewer is the best way to view what skins look like on a model, just make sure to have the model and the skins in the same folder or else the textures don't load.


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Re: n00b question [message #403010 is a reply to message #402931] Wed, 16 September 2009 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why don't you like using W3D viewer? Does it lower the quality when you use it or something?

If anything, it's still good for a quick preview to make sure there are no errors before going ingame to look at it.


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Re: n00b question [message #403020 is a reply to message #403010] Wed, 16 September 2009 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Altzan wrote on Wed, 16 September 2009 13:31

Why don't you like using W3D viewer? Does it lower the quality when you use it or something?

If anything, it's still good for a quick preview to make sure there are no errors before going ingame to look at it.


That quality sucks imo, plus I don't like digging out the w3d files.
Re: n00b question [message #403024 is a reply to message #403020] Wed, 16 September 2009 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chew wrote on Wed, 16 September 2009 14:51

Altzan wrote on Wed, 16 September 2009 13:31

Why don't you like using W3D viewer? Does it lower the quality when you use it or something?

If anything, it's still good for a quick preview to make sure there are no errors before going ingame to look at it.


That quality sucks imo, plus I don't like digging out the w3d files.


True, but it's also handy for figuring out all the skins that apply to certain textures, for example I think the PIC uses 4 different textures.

As for screenshots, when I press PrintScreen in Ren it saves the screenie to a .png in the Data folder. I can take that and open it in Paint.net and edit away.


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Re: n00b question [message #403027 is a reply to message #403024] Wed, 16 September 2009 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Altzan wrote on Wed, 16 September 2009 16:11

Chew wrote on Wed, 16 September 2009 14:51

Altzan wrote on Wed, 16 September 2009 13:31

Why don't you like using W3D viewer? Does it lower the quality when you use it or something?

If anything, it's still good for a quick preview to make sure there are no errors before going ingame to look at it.


That quality sucks imo, plus I don't like digging out the w3d files.


True, but it's also handy for figuring out all the skins that apply to certain textures, for example I think the PIC uses 4 different textures.

As for screenshots, when I press PrintScreen in Ren it saves the screenie to a .png in the Data folder. I can take that and open it in Paint.net and edit away.


I have taken SS and cut stuff out of them, but I am sure that is not the way that people get the really awesome looking renders.
Re: n00b question [message #403031 is a reply to message #403027] Wed, 16 September 2009 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Point me in the direction of these signatures using "awesome looking renders" ? Razz

Re: n00b question [message #403044 is a reply to message #403031] Wed, 16 September 2009 17:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LeeumDee wrote on Wed, 16 September 2009 17:42

Point me in the direction of these signatures using "awesome looking renders" ? Razz


Your's is pretty kool, even though it is not Renegade.
Re: n00b question [message #403077 is a reply to message #403044] Thu, 17 September 2009 05:39 Go to previous message
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I made mine using a huge stock photo Smile
It's very difficult to get a screenshot out of a game looking good for use in a signature. Given the low amount of polys and dependent on LOD. However Renegade stock images are hard to come by in my experience, that's why i think people _could_ only use ingame screens for signatures.


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