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I don't want to drag st0rm though the mud, but aren't you the person who posted a SS with a cheat on it as a "skin demonstration" before?

This topic, First and second post say it all


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Re: [Skins] St0rm GDI Vehicles Collection [message #399505 is a reply to message #399493] Mon, 24 August 2009 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CarrierII wrote on Mon, 24 August 2009 14:11

I don't want to drag st0rm though the mud, but aren't you the person who posted a SS with a cheat on it as a "skin demonstration" before?

This topic, First and second post say it all



LOL I remember this.


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Re: [Skins] St0rm GDI Vehicles Collection [message #399506 is a reply to message #399493] Mon, 24 August 2009 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: [Skins] St0rm GDI Vehicles Collection [message #399520 is a reply to message #399493] Mon, 24 August 2009 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He could have at least changed his name so I'd have had to, you know, click on some of the moderator tools to discover his IP probably matched...


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Re: [Skins] St0rm GDI Vehicles Collection [message #399551 is a reply to message #399520] Mon, 24 August 2009 15:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CarrierII wrote on Mon, 24 August 2009 21:51

He could have at least changed his name so I'd have had to, you know, click on some of the moderator tools to discover his IP probably matched...



Does it matter? Unless he's banned from forums anyway, i don't see why it matters whether he wants to post skins.

(And also provided the zip contains only skins and nothing else Sarcasm )

@Queen: Didn't watch the whole vid, but the skins I did see looked good. Thumbs Up


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Re: [Skins] St0rm GDI Vehicles Collection [message #399626 is a reply to message #399551] Tue, 25 August 2009 01:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Altzan wrote on Mon, 24 August 2009 15:11

CarrierII wrote on Mon, 24 August 2009 21:51

He could have at least changed his name so I'd have had to, you know, click on some of the moderator tools to discover his IP probably matched...



Does it matter? Unless he's banned from forums anyway, i don't see why it matters whether he wants to post skins.

(And also provided the zip contains only skins and nothing else Sarcasm )

@Queen: Didn't watch the whole vid, but the skins I did see looked good. Thumbs Up


Agreed.

@CarrierII: Don't post sh-t that's not relevant and is a blatant attempt to derail the topic. A mod should know better. :/

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Re: [Skins] St0rm GDI Vehicles Collection [message #399631 is a reply to message #399493] Tue, 25 August 2009 02:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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just to point out, if it was a "queen" screenshot, he would have the TS overlay...

http://www.st0rm.net/forum/showpost.php?p=52584&postcount=1

so yeah, just because you see someone post a SS dont assume it was taken by that person.

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Re: [Skins] St0rm GDI Vehicles Collection [message #399937 is a reply to message #399631] Wed, 26 August 2009 17:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DaJoXTeR wrote on Tue, 25 August 2009 04:25

just to point out, if it was a "queen" screenshot, he would have the TS overlay...

http://www.st0rm.net/forum/showpost.php?p=52584&postcount=1

so yeah, just because you see someone post a SS dont assume it was taken by that person.

P.S...Nice Skins mate.

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You could bother reading the link thread next time.

He could have also changed his style from last time we have seen him here.

My logic is valid, where as yours is flawed.


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Re: [Skins] St0rm GDI Vehicles Collection [message #400084 is a reply to message #399631] Thu, 27 August 2009 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DaJoXTeR wrote on Tue, 25 August 2009 11:25

just to point out, if it was a "queen" screenshot, he would have the TS overlay...

http://www.st0rm.net/forum/showpost.php?p=52584&postcount=1

so yeah, just because you see someone post a SS dont assume it was taken by that person.

P.S...Nice Skins mate.


And that's the logic of St0rm/DWC mods? LOL

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Re: [Skins] St0rm GDI Vehicles Collection [message #400156 is a reply to message #399493] Thu, 27 August 2009 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've been refraining from posting about this, but now i feel i must point out some things...

1. this thread is supposed to be about a skin pack.
2. it was a PEACE offering that there are no hard feeling toward renforums from queen.
3. he has always used Teamspeak overlay in his skin screenshots.
4. whether Dajoxter's logic is flawed or not doesn't mean yours is perfect. Teamspeak Overlay is not shown in the aforementioned screenshots, so you could also be wrong.

I do not defend him because i think he's clean, but because you all can't get past being an asshole to everyone who is different than you.

Anyway, I love this vehicle pack and (though I'm not a mod on renforums) I would like to see people stay on topic regardless their opinion of Queen's gameplay cleanliness. By the way Goztow: if I'm not mistaken it's illegal to post people's full IP addresses to the public. If i see it's not edited away i will report it.


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Re: [Skins] St0rm GDI Vehicles Collection [message #400198 is a reply to message #399493] Thu, 27 August 2009 22:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I somewhat concur with Black Dragon.

Queenhunter has been around the Renz0r community quite a bit, friendly guy, and although his skins aren't amazing, he's doing a good job. He posts his skins again and barely anyone notices the work, they're too busy flaming the person.

As Dragon pretty much said, I'm not defending him because I think he's not a cheater, I'm unsure about that, but I'm defending him because he's a friendly guy who's posting his skins for us.

So as the Moderators should actually be enforcing, can we stay on-topic? This is a skin thread, not a "OMG QUEENHUNTER HAX!" thread.


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Re: [Skins] St0rm GDI Vehicles Collection [message #400324 is a reply to message #399493] Fri, 28 August 2009 05:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It has been the precedent on these forums to identify any individual who cheated* and post links to the evidence.

This has been the case since these forums started, and has been going on, normally in the server owners subofurm for ages.

In the occasional case where someone decides to bust themselves cheating*, the forum populace has normally responded in this fashion, given that St0rm were obviously not aware of his previous cheating*, I decided to post a link to that topic, as I imagined a St0rm community member would check this topic, given as it has their community's name in the title and is (hopfully) therefore endorsed by them. In short, I was making them aware of what the person who posted something endorsed by them had done.

(* Yes, I've no solid proof that he actually used *cough* online, but the evidence isn't exactly on his side - having said that, I helped a moderator in a community I was involved with make a tutorial on testing suspected cheaters (way back before RG became commonplace) - thus, there are screenshots of me cheating in certain private subforums... I guess it's down to who you beleive)


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Re: [Skins] St0rm GDI Vehicles Collection [message #400333 is a reply to message #399493] Fri, 28 August 2009 06:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1. this thread is supposed to be about a skin pack.


Might be true, but those are his only thread(s).

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2. it was a PEACE offering that there are no hard feeling toward renforums from queen.


And that's something we should accept? His basically blaming us, while he should blame himself. Even still denying it was him cheating.

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3. he has always used Teamspeak overlay in his skin screenshots.


Wrong. I can show you some archived screenshots of him without.

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4. whether Dajoxter's logic is flawed or not doesn't mean yours is perfect. Teamspeak Overlay is not shown in the aforementioned screenshots, so you could also be wrong.


Wrong again. Basically everyone can change clothes they wear every day. You can also do this in the "virtual world", changing apps and skins/mods you run/use every day. Also read my answer @ 3.

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Queen's gameplay cleanliness


Got any proof of that? Only Queen himself now would know if he cheats nowdays or not, because he probably won't make the same mistake twice.


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DutchNeon wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 23:04

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Queen's gameplay cleanliness


Got any proof of that? Only Queen himself now would know if he cheats nowdays or not, because he probably won't make the same mistake twice.



Exactly, so I could be cheating nowadays. So could you. Unless there's some DEFINATE proof he cheats online, can we please stop this debate? It's rather annoying. Let's just comment on his skins, please.


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Re: Queenhunter's skin release political part - split [message #400344 is a reply to message #399493] Fri, 28 August 2009 06:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Split the more political part to the heated discussions subforum as it is indeed not on topic and became a bit "heated".

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Dreganius wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 15:12

DutchNeon wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 23:04

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Queen's gameplay cleanliness


Got any proof of that? Only Queen himself now would know if he cheats nowdays or not, because he probably won't make the same mistake twice.



Exactly, so I could be cheating nowadays. So could you. Unless there's some DEFINATE proof he cheats online, can we please stop this debate? It's rather annoying. Let's just comment on his skins, please.


There is DEFINATE proof of Queen cheating in the past with RGH. *cheat name removed*can be turned off, and basically any1 that has *cheat name removed*on while taking screenshots for skins has *cheat name removed*on as a habit; not noticing the yellow words in the corner. Now he won't make the same mistake twice.

The thing that makes him a worthy suspect in my eyes, is that he still denies everything. He went away from the Forums, and got back. He basically blames us for everything, and he still denies it was him cheating.

Now you are right about the possibilities of everyone cheating, but I wouldn't trust on that until cheat history screenshots are shown, or recent busts by BIATCH/mods with good proof, or recent "mistakes" like Queen did with his screenshot. But yeah, he could still be cheating, or not. No1 knows except himself, and I'll agree with your point.

Heck, I even got banned numerous times from the Gz0ne server, and once from Jelly for RGH. I had my proof though that I didn't cheated at those times. Often "Fraps proof"; luckily getting banned in a match while running Fraps and recording everything from your eyes.

The only unban that was based on "trust" was me getting banned by BIATCH for having a different warhead and damage with an APC (Volt damage and warhead for the M60 of the Nod APC). This ban happened when BIATCH was just released. This could have been a lag flaw or some other issue, but I was glad that Adad trusted me as I had no proof whatsoever of me not cheating, besides my words of what happened. I used the Volt rifle just before I got in the APC as the driver and started shooting a bit.

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Re: Queenhunter's skin release political part - split [message #400411 is a reply to message #399493] Fri, 28 August 2009 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok, I didn't want to get re-involved again, but if you have any hard evidence against him, then provide it now or all you guys are saying is just your word vs. his.

The players of St0rm have played with him with no suspicion of cheats. We know who's cheating in our servers.
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@DutchNeon: If you read it more carefully, you would have seen that I am NOT trying to vouch for how clean Queen's gameplay is. I am merely trying to get you and other people to try looking at this issue from a perspective other than your own. The fact that TSO is not in the screenshot makes it POSSIBLE that anyone who has a Dell computer (and some of Queen's skins) could have taken the ss. Plus, to say that your logic is perfect is completely laughable. Nobody's logic is perfect. Finally: Stop trying to make it seem as though I'm vehemently opposed to the thought that he could cheat. I never said he was clean, I just never said he cheated either.

@CarrierII: St0rm's mods have been aware of the so-called "guilty" screenshots since they were posted. We do not ban for cheats at St0rm unless we have undeniable proof that a suspect is cheating in a St0rm server.


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Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 19:56

Ok, I didn't want to get re-involved again, but if you have any hard evidence against him, then provide it now or all you guys are saying is just your word vs. his.

The players of St0rm have played with him with no suspicion of cheats. We know who's cheating in our servers.


Meh. Like I said, He might not be that dumb now, and he might use *cheat name removed*carefully, or he doesn't cheat anymore at all. The thing that makes Queen still look like a retard is his denying of his past.

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DutchNeon wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 10:59

Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 19:56

Ok, I didn't want to get re-involved again, but if you have any hard evidence against him, then provide it now or all you guys are saying is just your word vs. his.

The players of St0rm have played with him with no suspicion of cheats. We know who's cheating in our servers.


Meh. Like I said, He might not be that dumb now, and he might use *cheat name removed*carefully, or he doesn't cheat anymore at all. The thing that makes Queen still look like a retard is his denying of his past.


So, You're just spouting your mouth off without providing evidence other than a screenshot which doesn't prove it is him?

Biased much or are you just keeping even with rene-politics?
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Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 14:06

DutchNeon wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 10:59

Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 19:56

Ok, I didn't want to get re-involved again, but if you have any hard evidence against him, then provide it now or all you guys are saying is just your word vs. his.

The players of St0rm have played with him with no suspicion of cheats. We know who's cheating in our servers.


Meh. Like I said, He might not be that dumb now, and he might use *cheat name removed*carefully, or he doesn't cheat anymore at all. The thing that makes Queen still look like a retard is his denying of his past.


So, You're just spouting your mouth off without providing evidence other than a screenshot which doesn't prove it is him?

Biased much or are you just keeping even with rene-politics?



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St0rm logic, like I said Wink

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You could bother reading the link thread next time.


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DutchNeon wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:10

St0rm logic, like I said Wink

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You could bother reading the link thread next time.


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Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:06

So, You're just spouting your mouth off without providing evidence other than a screenshot which doesn't prove it is him?
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Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 14:06

DutchNeon wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 10:59

Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 19:56

Ok, I didn't want to get re-involved again, but if you have any hard evidence against him, then provide it now or all you guys are saying is just your word vs. his.

The players of St0rm have played with him with no suspicion of cheats. We know who's cheating in our servers.


Meh. Like I said, He might not be that dumb now, and he might use *cheat name removed*carefully, or he doesn't cheat anymore at all. The thing that makes Queen still look like a retard is his denying of his past.


So, You're just spouting your mouth off without providing evidence other than a screenshot which doesn't prove it is him?

Biased much or are you just keeping even with rene-politics?

Many of his screenshots before he posted the ss with the rgh.1.3.3 have the same skins as the one with the rgh.1.3.3.

It's also pretty clear he was cheating online, I don't think anyone would fire up rgh.1.3.3 just to take a picture of their skins.


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Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 20:13

DutchNeon wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:10

St0rm logic, like I said Wink

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You could bother reading the link thread next time.


http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=32779&prevloaded=1& rid=20637&start=0

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Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:06

So, You're just spouting your mouth off without providing evidence other than a screenshot which doesn't prove it is him?



Read the all the posts (everyone's) in the linked thread. Otherwise, I might aswell ignore your posts if you are going to say (quote) the same thing over and over.

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