| Pentium Vs. Athlon [message #39899] |
Sat, 16 August 2003 11:06  |
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maytridy
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Hey,
I'm looking around at processors, for my new computer, and I had a few questions:
1.) What are the pros and cons of the Pentium 4 and the Athlon 3200?
2.) Which do you prefer?
3.) Which do you have, and how does it preform?
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| Pentium Vs. Athlon [message #39903] |
Sat, 16 August 2003 11:19  |
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General Havoc
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o Pentium 4 Has hyperthreading that helps speed up things a little.
o Costs a bomb for a P4 3.06 Ghz
o Athlon does more work per clock cycle than the P4 meaning it can run at a lower Mhz but offer a similar performance.
o Lacks the oomph at the 3200 speed compared to a P4 running at an equivilent speed (3200Mhz) #. This is most noticible in CPU intensive applications such as video and audio converting/editing (VIS Generation?).
o Cheaper than a P4
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o Athlon because it's cheaper and I've had no problems with them before.
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o Athlon XP 2000+ It performs the same as my sisters P4 2.0 Ghz in terms of games with an identical graphics card. Never noticed much difference between them.
I don't have a AMD XP 3200+ so I can't comment on that specific chip.
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| Pentium Vs. Athlon [message #39936] |
Sat, 16 August 2003 13:22 |
Bearxor
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Neither. AMD has a new chip coming out next month, and so does Intel in Oct. At least wait to see what happens. Even if they are priced out of your price range, which the lower end won't be, but the higher end will, it will drive P4C and AXP prices so low it will be worth the wait.
But my recomendation right now would be an Intel platform. better ugradability at this point. 3200+ is likely the last AXP we'll see. A 3400+ is a posibility, but a slim one. A P4 865 or 875 chipset will offer you an upgrade path to 4ghz max. Meaning you can stick something like a 2.4C in there now and then drop in a 4ghz whenever the prices sink and you start to think its slow.
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| Pentium Vs. Athlon [message #39968] |
Sat, 16 August 2003 15:00 |
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maytridy
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sorry this is off topic but i saw a 2.4 Ghz laptop very nice with built in dvd/cdrw burner for 1500$$
is that a good deal
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Depends. What's the memory? Graphics card? Hard Drive? Etc........
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Neither. AMD has a new chip coming out next month, and so does Intel in Oct. At least wait to see what happens. Even if they are priced out of your price range, which the lower end won't be, but the higher end will, it will drive P4C and AXP prices so low it will be worth the wait.
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Yes! I just read that it PC World! I guess I'll just wait until then!
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o Pentium 4 Has hyperthreading that helps speed up things a little.
o Costs a bomb for a P4 3.06 Ghz
o Athlon does more work per clock cycle than the P4 meaning it can run at a lower Mhz but offer a similar performance.
o Lacks the oomph at the 3200 speed compared to a P4 running at an equivilent speed (3200Mhz) #. This is most noticible in CPU intensive applications such as video and audio converting/editing (VIS Generation?).
o Cheaper than a P4
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o Athlon because it's cheaper and I've had no problems with them before.
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o Athlon XP 2000+ It performs the same as my sisters P4 2.0 Ghz in terms of games with an identical graphics card. Never noticed much difference between them.
I don't have a AMD XP 3200+ so I can't comment on that specific chip.
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Wow! Thanks for all the great info!
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| Pentium Vs. Athlon [message #40069] |
Sat, 16 August 2003 21:56 |
abakshi
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Yeah basically what's posted above - I wouldn't recommend spending money on AMD's current top-end models, like the 3200+, as the performance doesn't match an P4 3.0. The bus speed on the 3200+ is an advantage versus slower Athlons, but the quad-pumping on the P4s really gives them a big advantage versus the AMDs.
For my new system, I was looking to get somewhere between an Athlon XP 2400+ and a 2800+ with an ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe board, but for only ~$60 more (than the 2400+), I got my ASUS P4P800-Deluxe board running a P4 2.4C Ghz CPU, which has pretty nice performance for its price and comfortable space for OCing if I wanted to do that.
As posted above, AMD's Athlon 64 will be coming out soon, as well as Intel's Prescott and further technologies. Prescott (may be called Pentium 5) will initially be released on Socket 478, which current P4s use, then the next socket (forgot the number) will be a bit different physically, and that's where they will include the faster CPUs - ~3.6 or 3.8 to eventually 5 Ghz. Just a point of interest, the CPUs fitting in Intel's next socket design will have no pins - just little semi-spherical contacts.
So you may want to wait until Athlon 64 and Prescott come out before jumping to conclusions 
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| Pentium Vs. Athlon [message #40171] |
Sun, 17 August 2003 12:55 |
Genius-Pr02
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Registered: May 2003
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3.2 Canterwood w the 800Mhz FSB is the fastest stock CPU there is to date, if u have $$ buy it.
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