| Re: Any thoughts on the Iranian election protests? [message #392088 is a reply to message #392049] |
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Wiener
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| Spoony wrote on Wed, 24 June 2009 09:13 |
| Wiener wrote on Wed, 24 June 2009 02:15 |
Foreigners should stay out of inner political matters of another country.
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I didn't realise we were involving ourselves. Khameini and Ahneedajihad tell us (Britain) that we're the great Satan (pushing Israel and the US to silver and bronze, presumably) for trying to interfere, but I fail to see how we actually are. I don't think critical speech really counts.
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Yes, you're absolutely right. Its there propaganda against western civilisation that kept/still keeps up their regime. But that does not legitimatise european and us american politicians arrogating re-elections openly and in public.
| Spoony wrote on Wed, 24 June 2009 09:13 |
| Wiener wrote on Wed, 24 June 2009 02:15 |
PPL seem to forget that Mousavi is from the same political wing as Ahmadinejad. If he had won the election, probably nothing would have changed anyway.
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This is true; democracy in Iran has always been an illusion. The candidates have to be approved beforehand, for example.
Put simply, the Iranian rulers maintain a feeble pretense of democracy; the Iranian public are starting to realise the illusion and are understandably angry. What baffles me is that this is apparently Britain's fault. I will admit that we have a very fucked-up history in dealing with Iran - nationalising their resources, Operation Ajax etc - but sooner or later that excuse just stops working.
| Wiener wrote on Wed, 24 June 2009 02:15 |
But CHANGE came into vogue lately and its always good to focus on other countries problems when your own problems are outgrowing 
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This seems to be very much what the Iranian leadership is doing. I think I can reasonably draw a comparison between the Iranian leadership and Robert Mugabe during the ridiculous, brutal charade that was the last Zimbabwe election. In both cases, the leadership conducted absurd assaults on what little democracy the country had; in both cases, the leadership went to great lengths to label Britain (?) as 'evil' for the fact that Brown, in an uncharacteristic display of honesty, says it's bullshit.
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We all know how easy it is to manipulate us. that makes us equal with all people world wide. As much as most of us trusted or supported political decisions to handle the economic crisis, we are now susceptible for theories that expose the faultiness of these measures. A couple of well placed public statements concerning Iranian elections to the right press agencies helps to get this previous topics out of the spotlight.
So we don't have to worry about the long term problems we just caused such as the homemade inflation (... funny to see how those who cause this actually benefit from it due to the heavy loans they have...) and support to freedom respiring ppl at the other end of the world instead. In other words a perfect (mis-)use of our empathy. At the end we all hope that it actually does help the Iranian ppl as a little economic cutback over here is not half that important as their freedom 
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