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| Zeratul wrote on Thu, 04 June 2009 22:38 |
lol he went to egypt?! BURN THE MUSLIM BASTERD!
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Add a comment please, Dover.
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I did have a comment originally, Carrier. In fact, the original post didn't have a picture, and consisted entirely of the word "faggot", but I felt that was too dangerously close to flaming. I realize this subforum is meant for debate and other srs bizns, but when the original topic is based on such a stupid premise, and is filled with replies like | Zeratul wrote on Thu, 04 June 2009 22:38 |
lol he went to egypt?! BURN THE MUSLIM BASTERD!
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, there's only so far it can go.
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| Dover wrote on Thu, 04 June 2009 10:42 |
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Thu, 04 June 2009 04:35 |
ITT: Same shit with Bush except now it's the Democrat's turn.
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Normally, I wouldn't mind, but Obama hasn't done anything yet. When Obama starts random preemptive wars, or chokes on a pretzel, or does something equally retarded, then you can go ahead and have your bitchfit, but until then it's nothing but pissing in the wind.
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Yes he certainly never added a ridiculously large stimulus bill, gave it to companies who do NOT deserve it, closed down a terrorist interrogation facility rather than fixing it up, fucks up a ton of small things when it comes to foreign relations, closes down fucking streets for fucking HOURS because he has to try and act like a "common man" by eating out at a restaurant, disregard the fact that he's closing off streets and the like.
And the sheer fact that he's been in office as long as he has and hasn't done anything really beneficial, is another reason to dislike him.
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You seemed to be misinformed, Mr. ZIMMER, so I'll address these one by one.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 05:36 |
Yes he certainly never added a ridiculously large stimulus bill, gave it to companies who do NOT deserve it,
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You misunderstand what the stimulus bill is. The stimulus bill is NOT the free-money bailout (Which, by the way, was a Bush initiative, not Obama's). The only way "undeserving companies" will get a hold of stimulus money is if they enter the employ of the federal or state governments (As in, a construction company receiving money for constructing a building or fixing a road, etc). This in itself isn't anything surprising--that's the way governments get things done.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 05:36 |
closed down a terrorist interrogation facility rather than fixing it up,
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The problem with Guantanamo isn't it's physical condition, but rather the fact that it's in international waters where US laws and similar anti-torture institutions don't apply. The way to "fix it up" would be to invade Cuba and make it the 51st state. Closing it down is the right thing to do, especially since nobody can come up with a halfway-decent reason prisoners of war can't be interrogated some place where laws actually apply.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 05:36 |
fucks up a ton of small things when it comes to foreign relations,
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The term "small things" and "fuck up" tend to be mutually exclusive. In any case, I'm not sure what you're refering to here. He seems to have done a fantasic job when it comes to foreign relations, and nobody besides butthurt conservifags have found anything bad to say about him (And they don't count, as they unfortunately aren't foreign entities)
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 05:36 |
closes down fucking streets for fucking HOURS because he has to try and act like a "common man" by eating out at a restaurant, disregard the fact that he's closing off streets and the like.
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I'm pretty sure he isn't ordering the streets to be closed. In fact, in all the times he's gone out (And we know every time, Faux News never fails to throw a bitchfit), I haven't heard anything about streets being closed. At any rate, even IF he was closing streets left and right, I'd let him get away with such a minor gripe since he's reversing the US's terribad opinion overseas, fixing the economy, re-empowering the scientific community, pulling out of Iraq, and restoring the rule of law. In the light of all that, who cares if he closes a street or two? Better he spend his relaxation time amongst people instead of some hidden Texas ranch which acts like an ivory tower.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 05:36 |
And the sheer fact that he's been in office as long as he has and hasn't done anything really beneficial, is another reason to dislike him.
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I guess you were expecting the recession to be over in 100 days? He's done plenty. Get your head out of your ass.
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| Zeratul wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 11:06 |
| ErroR wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 11:29 |
| IAmFenix wrote on Thu, 04 June 2009 23:04 |
| ErroR wrote on Thu, 04 June 2009 07:21 |
At least he's not comunist
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Absolute monarchs can be beneficial, look at Cathrine the Great of Russia.
Though, I would not trust him to leader.
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look at the damn comunists ruining our country.
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im tired of saying who has a point... cause really eventually my fingers will get tired
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How is that a point? It's not a point, is a statement full of logical fallacies. Specificially, Cherry Picking and the Spotlight Fallacy. "BAWWW LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR GROUP OF PEOPLE IN MY COUNTRY THAT I DISAGREE WITH THIS MEANS ALL PEOPLE IN THAT GROUP ARE BAD BAWWW". It's pathetic.
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There's communists in the American government? Who knew?...
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| Dover wrote on Sat, 06 June 2009 01:48 |
| Zeratul wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 11:06 |
| ErroR wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 11:29 |
| IAmFenix wrote on Thu, 04 June 2009 23:04 |
| ErroR wrote on Thu, 04 June 2009 07:21 |
At least he's not comunist
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Absolute monarchs can be beneficial, look at Cathrine the Great of Russia.
Though, I would not trust him to leader.
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look at the damn comunists ruining our country.
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im tired of saying who has a point... cause really eventually my fingers will get tired
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How is that a point? It's not a point, is a statement full of logical fallacies. Specificially, Cherry Picking and the Spotlight Fallacy. "BAWWW LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR GROUP OF PEOPLE IN MY COUNTRY THAT I DISAGREE WITH THIS MEANS ALL PEOPLE IN THAT GROUP ARE BAD BAWWW". It's pathetic.
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it's actually like that, and more than half of country think so.. people are seriously retarded here.
They were going to prottest against comunists and someone threw a rock. that's it a fukin riot started and lasted for 3 days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lU4jri5ulc
the comunists provoked them by throwing a rock. This is really stupid. They let the parliament burn on purpose so they can suck money out of people after that.
People wanted to protest against the comunists faking the elections, hell yeah thousands of dead people voted for them 
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| ErroR wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 03:16 |
| Dover wrote on Sat, 06 June 2009 01:48 |
| Zeratul wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 11:06 |
| ErroR wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 11:29 |
| IAmFenix wrote on Thu, 04 June 2009 23:04 |
| ErroR wrote on Thu, 04 June 2009 07:21 |
At least he's not comunist
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Absolute monarchs can be beneficial, look at Cathrine the Great of Russia.
Though, I would not trust him to leader.
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look at the damn comunists ruining our country.
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im tired of saying who has a point... cause really eventually my fingers will get tired
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How is that a point? It's not a point, is a statement full of logical fallacies. Specificially, Cherry Picking and the Spotlight Fallacy. "BAWWW LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR GROUP OF PEOPLE IN MY COUNTRY THAT I DISAGREE WITH THIS MEANS ALL PEOPLE IN THAT GROUP ARE BAD BAWWW". It's pathetic.
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it's actually like that, and more than half of country think so.. people are seriously retarded here.
They were going to prottest against comunists and someone threw a rock. that's it a fukin riot started and lasted for 3 days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lU4jri5ulc
the comunists provoked them by throwing a rock. This is really stupid. They let the parliament burn on purpose so they can suck money out of people after that.
People wanted to protest against the comunists faking the elections, hell yeah thousands of dead people voted for them
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...Which of course, means communists everywhere (Including myself) are evil, evil people, right?
Before you answer "yes", the answer is "no, not at all, and fuck you. >:["
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| Dover wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 08:20 |
You misunderstand what the stimulus bill is. The stimulus bill is NOT the free-money bailout (Which, by the way, was a Bush initiative, not Obama's). The only way "undeserving companies" will get a hold of stimulus money is if they enter the employ of the federal or state governments (As in, a construction company receiving money for constructing a building or fixing a road, etc). This in itself isn't anything surprising--that's the way governments get things done.
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For one, if it's a Bush initiative, why the fuck is Obama continuing it? I thought Bush's economic plan was failing according to him.
For two, yeah, it pretty much IS free money. The only downside is government regulation, which is causing companies to outright go under because they can't really meet the requirements (GM, etc).
Three, yes, AIG is a surely deserving company, right? Not to mention they hold control of the ports that Dubai should've owned, but don't thanks to stupid pricks in congress.
| Dover wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 08:20 |
The problem with Guantanamo isn't it's physical condition, but rather the fact that it's in international waters where US laws and similar anti-torture institutions don't apply. The way to "fix it up" would be to invade Cuba and make it the 51st state. Closing it down is the right thing to do, especially since nobody can come up with a halfway-decent reason prisoners of war can't be interrogated some place where laws actually apply.
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Yeah I clearly meant its physical condition . Anyways, while I do understand your point, address this one: where are the terrorists that were held captive going to go? Either they go to another, much more secretive location (LOL BUSH R BAD HE KEEP THINGS SEEKRIT), or they're simply let free. Now, if they're putting it in US waters where our laws apply, and it's not a super secretive location (afterall, doing that is just a failed Bush administration method, amirite), then good. But I haven't quite heard news of that. If you'd like to correct me, feel free to.
| Dover wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 08:20 |
The term "small things" and "fuck up" tend to be mutually exclusive. In any case, I'm not sure what you're refering to here. He seems to have done a fantasic job when it comes to foreign relations, and nobody besides butthurt conservifags have found anything bad to say about him (And they don't count, as they unfortunately aren't foreign entities)
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I'm referring to giving the Queen of England an iPod, bowing to a foreign leader (Again, a small thing, but stupid nonetheless). I'm not saying Bush was any better, but for a guy who people hoped would be alot better with foreign relations... yeah. Plus, alot of foreign investers can see US is just going deeper into a shithole, so they're not going to be as apt to help us out.
Most of the apparent "foreign relations" he does is the typical bullshit. Shaking hands, talking with them, etc. Outside of that, it doesn't seem like he's doing a better job than Bush did, really...
Oh, I also like how if people disagree with Obama, they're "butthurt conservifags". Way to be a biased prick, considering plenty of people on both sides of the aisle are disagreeing with various things Obama has done.
| Dover wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 08:20 |
I'm pretty sure he isn't ordering the streets to be closed. In fact, in all the times he's gone out (And we know every time, Faux News never fails to throw a bitchfit), I haven't heard anything about streets being closed. At any rate, even IF he was closing streets left and right, I'd let him get away with such a minor gripe since he's reversing the US's terribad opinion overseas, fixing the economy, re-empowering the scientific community, pulling out of Iraq, and restoring the rule of law. In the light of all that, who cares if he closes a street or two? Better he spend his relaxation time amongst people instead of some hidden Texas ranch which acts like an ivory tower.
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I live around the DC area, I should know. He does do this, and actually very frequently. You might not think much of it, but considering the amount of people who do business in DC and can't get through, that's alot of people who are either late to meetings/work/whatever, or who outright can't get to their jobs. Not to mention, this can fuck up local businesses just as well, since everyone is focused on this one business he's going to.
You might not think much of it, but to me, this is fucking bullshit. One man should NOT be able to close down streets and fuck up or "save" a business as he does just because he decides to do so. It's supposed to be a free market, not a market controlled by the government and whatever he wants to go to. He's a fucking President, he needs to start acting like it.
Also, the US still has a pretty shitty view from people overseas, the economy is hardly being "fixed" (He's just pumping money into businesses he deems fit to throw money at... way to continue fiscal irresponsibility that's been plaguing our nation for years, asshole), and I haven't really seen us pull out of Iraq yet (LOL WE'RE GONNA PULL OUT OF IRAQ RIGHT AS I'M ELECTED). I do agree it's good he's finally doing something decent and giving to the scientific community, but who knows, maybe they'll spend shittons of that money trying to research for a vaccine for something minor that's a huge deal all around (Swine flu, anyone). And restoring the rule of law? Hahahahahahahahahahahahah. Yeah, no. If anyone should get their head out of their ass, it's you. He's continuing the same bullshit work arounds Bush did, but is adding his own touch of bullshit on top of it all.
| Dover wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 08:20 |
I guess you were expecting the recession to be over in 100 days? He's done plenty. Get your head out of your ass.
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Actually I was- in a good majority of his speeches, he bashes Bush and his blatent "failed policies" and how he can easily fix them, and that "change" would happen almost immediatly. Now that he's in office, his tone changes to "well, bad things are gonna have to happen first before some good things happen". Once again it's the same fucking bullshit we've been experiencing for the past years.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
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| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
For one, if it's a Bush initiative, why the fuck is Obama continuing it? I thought Bush's economic plan was failing according to him.
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Because as much as Obama and the rest of the country loves change, the US constitution is designed to resist change and make it very difficult. If the 700billion bank bailouts could've been reversed, I'm sure they would be.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
For two, yeah, it pretty much IS free money. The only downside is government regulation, which is causing companies to outright go under because they can't really meet the requirements (GM, etc).
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Again, I should repeat myself. The stimulus package is for the most part NOT FREE MONEY. Just because you repeat it over and over doesn't make it any more true. Free money was the bank bailouts (Under Bush). Even the auto-industry bailouts weren't free money, but they were buying stock, which the government will sell once the company gets back on it's feet(Something Sweden has done successfully in the past).
Oh, and of course. GM was doing SOOOOOO well before Obama came along. Clearly, his less-than-100-days of regulation completely destroyed America's largest corporation.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
Three, yes, AIG is a surely deserving company, right? Not to mention they hold control of the ports that Dubai should've owned, but don't thanks to stupid pricks in congress.
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Keep pretending Obama's fault. If you repeat it enough times, it might come true. 
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
Yeah I clearly meant its physical condition .
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What the hell does this mean, then?
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 05:36 |
closed down a terrorist interrogation facility rather than fixing it up,
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Fix it up as in give it a new paint-job? Fix it up as in put in new hardwood floor? Fix it up as in somehow bring Guantanamo Bay, Cuba under US National jurisdiction? What did you mean by "fixing it up"?
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
Anyways, while I do understand your point, address this one: where are the terrorists that were held captive going to go? Either they go to another, much more secretive location (LOL BUSH R BAD HE KEEP THINGS SEEKRIT), or they're simply let free. Now, if they're putting it in US waters where our laws apply, and it's not a super secretive location (afterall, doing that is just a failed Bush administration method, amirite), then good. But I haven't quite heard news of that. If you'd like to correct me, feel free to.
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Keep them in an American Supermax prison. That's what Obama wants to do, and that's what he should do. If you want to see why he hasn't, see the long list of Republican governors and senetors that don't want to take them because they think there'll be terrorists living in their neighbor's attic.
I'd like to draw special attention to this:
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
where are the terrorists that were held captive going to go? Either they go to another, much more secretive location (LOL BUSH R BAD HE KEEP THINGS SEEKRIT), or they're simply let free.
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You may find this to be informative reading.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
I'm referring to giving the Queen of England an iPod, bowing to a foreign leader (Again, a small thing, but stupid nonetheless). I'm not saying Bush was any better, but for a guy who people hoped would be alot better with foreign relations... yeah. Plus, alot of foreign investers can see US is just going deeper into a shithole, so they're not going to be as apt to help us out.
Most of the apparent "foreign relations" he does is the typical bullshit. Shaking hands, talking with them, etc. Outside of that, it doesn't seem like he's doing a better job than Bush did, really...
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The thing is, nobody else is complaining! The queen of England doesn't seem the mind getting an iPod, nobody else seems to be making a shitstorm out of the supposed "bow". The only people that seem to give a shit are the people who are pre-disposed to dislike Obama in the first place! Every foreign leader and every country he's visited has given glowing reviews and has nothing but kind words for him and for the US. A big change from the last administration. This is your idea of a fuck up? What's your definition of a catastrophe? What is "good", if this is a fuck-up?
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
Oh, I also like how if people disagree with Obama, they're "butthurt conservifags". Way to be a biased prick, considering plenty of people on both sides of the aisle are disagreeing with various things Obama has done.
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But only butthurt conseri-fags are making a big deal about things that don't matter, like supposed mini-bows, or giving iPods as gifts, or Obama not going to church on Sunday, etc etc. If you do these things, you're a conservi-fag, and chances are you're loaded with pure butthurt.
You can object to Obama's policies without being a retard in the process. Most people just choose not to.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
I live around the DC area, I should know. He does do this, and actually very frequently. You might not think much of it, but considering the amount of people who do business in DC and can't get through, that's alot of people who are either late to meetings/work/whatever, or who outright can't get to their jobs. Not to mention, this can fuck up local businesses just as well, since everyone is focused on this one business he's going to.
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You live in DC? There's your first problem.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
You might not think much of it, but to me, this is fucking bullshit. One man should NOT be able to close down streets and fuck up or "save" a business as he does just because he decides to do so. It's supposed to be a free market, not a market controlled by the government and whatever he wants to go to. He's a fucking President, he needs to start acting like it.
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We torture, you say "We have to do what we have to do". We start a pre-emptive war against a country that hasn't shown any agression toward us, you say "They deserved it". A street near you gets shut down, you say "THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT".
Also, lol @ the president visiting a business = Market controlled by the government. I won't even comment on that. That's too easy.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
Also, the US still has a pretty shitty view from people overseas,
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Obama's fault, I'm sure.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
the economy is hardly being "fixed" (He's just pumping money into businesses he deems fit to throw money at... way to continue fiscal irresponsibility that's been plaguing our nation for years, asshole),
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Lol, if someone on this forum called Bush an "asshole", you would greet them with bullshit like "You're unamerican!" and "Why do you hate this country?".
As for the economy, see below.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
and I haven't really seen us pull out of Iraq yet (LOL WE'RE GONNA PULL OUT OF IRAQ RIGHT AS I'M ELECTED).
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Wai2listen. He's been saying one battalion a month since the beginning of the campaign. He's been overly-cautious in his speaches ("I will consult with my commanders, etc etc"). If you're going to critizes the guy, at least quote things he's actually said.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
I do agree it's good he's finally doing something decent and giving to the scientific community, but who knows, maybe they'll spend shittons of that money trying to research for a vaccine for something minor that's a huge deal all around (Swine flu, anyone).
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Lol @ swine flu.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
And restoring the rule of law?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahah. Yeah, no. If anyone should get their head out of their ass, it's you. He's continuing the same bullshit work arounds Bush did, but is adding his own touch of bullshit on top of it all.
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Pics or it didn't happen.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
Actually I was- in a good majority of his speeches, he bashes Bush and his blatent "failed policies" and how he can easily fix them, and that "change" would happen almost immediatly. Now that he's in office, his tone changes to "well, bad things are gonna have to happen first before some good things happen". Once again it's the same fucking bullshit we've been experiencing for the past years.
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Bashing Bush doesn't mean "I can fix this in 100 days". He's made it pretty clear it's going to take a while to fix. After all, it took a while to get into. Expecting otherwise betrays your lack of knowledge on how economics works. Just because your unrealistic expectations aren't met doesn't mean you can start spouting bullshit and expect to be taken seriously.
All in all, you should quit your bitching and suck it up.
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| ErroR wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 10:34 |
they aren't actually comunists, they only clain they are, they use the same name is it was in USSR, but they are just a bunch of selfish thieves who outsmarted the most of the stupid population here
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I agree, but what does this have to do with Obama, or anything on-topic? Why bring it up at all, unless you want to soil someone else's name, specifically Communists (Read: Me).
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| Dover wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 20:43 |
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
For one, if it's a Bush initiative, why the fuck is Obama continuing it? I thought Bush's economic plan was failing according to him.
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Because as much as Obama and the rest of the country loves change, the US constitution is designed to resist change and make it very difficult. If the 700billion bank bailouts could've been reversed, I'm sure they would be.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
For two, yeah, it pretty much IS free money. The only downside is government regulation, which is causing companies to outright go under because they can't really meet the requirements (GM, etc).
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Again, I should repeat myself. The stimulus package is for the most part NOT FREE MONEY. Just because you repeat it over and over doesn't make it any more true. Free money was the bank bailouts (Under Bush). Even the auto-industry bailouts weren't free money, but they were buying stock, which the government will sell once the company gets back on it's feet(Something Sweden has done successfully in the past).
Oh, and of course. GM was doing SOOOOOO well before Obama came along. Clearly, his less-than-100-days of regulation completely destroyed America's largest corporation.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
Three, yes, AIG is a surely deserving company, right? Not to mention they hold control of the ports that Dubai should've owned, but don't thanks to stupid pricks in congress.
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Keep pretending Obama's fault. If you repeat it enough times, it might come true.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
Yeah I clearly meant its physical condition .
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What the hell does this mean, then?
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 05 June 2009 05:36 |
closed down a terrorist interrogation facility rather than fixing it up,
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Fix it up as in give it a new paint-job? Fix it up as in put in new hardwood floor? Fix it up as in somehow bring Guantanamo Bay, Cuba under US National jurisdiction? What did you mean by "fixing it up"?
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
Anyways, while I do understand your point, address this one: where are the terrorists that were held captive going to go? Either they go to another, much more secretive location (LOL BUSH R BAD HE KEEP THINGS SEEKRIT), or they're simply let free. Now, if they're putting it in US waters where our laws apply, and it's not a super secretive location (afterall, doing that is just a failed Bush administration method, amirite), then good. But I haven't quite heard news of that. If you'd like to correct me, feel free to.
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Keep them in an American Supermax prison. That's what Obama wants to do, and that's what he should do. If you want to see why he hasn't, see the long list of Republican governors and senetors that don't want to take them because they think there'll be terrorists living in their neighbor's attic.
I'd like to draw special attention to this:
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
where are the terrorists that were held captive going to go? Either they go to another, much more secretive location (LOL BUSH R BAD HE KEEP THINGS SEEKRIT), or they're simply let free.
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You may find this to be informative reading.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
I'm referring to giving the Queen of England an iPod, bowing to a foreign leader (Again, a small thing, but stupid nonetheless). I'm not saying Bush was any better, but for a guy who people hoped would be alot better with foreign relations... yeah. Plus, alot of foreign investers can see US is just going deeper into a shithole, so they're not going to be as apt to help us out.
Most of the apparent "foreign relations" he does is the typical bullshit. Shaking hands, talking with them, etc. Outside of that, it doesn't seem like he's doing a better job than Bush did, really...
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The thing is, nobody else is complaining! The queen of England doesn't seem the mind getting an iPod, nobody else seems to be making a shitstorm out of the supposed "bow". The only people that seem to give a shit are the people who are pre-disposed to dislike Obama in the first place! Every foreign leader and every country he's visited has given glowing reviews and has nothing but kind words for him and for the US. A big change from the last administration. This is your idea of a fuck up? What's your definition of a catastrophe? What is "good", if this is a fuck-up?
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
Oh, I also like how if people disagree with Obama, they're "butthurt conservifags". Way to be a biased prick, considering plenty of people on both sides of the aisle are disagreeing with various things Obama has done.
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But only butthurt conseri-fags are making a big deal about things that don't matter, like supposed mini-bows, or giving iPods as gifts, or Obama not going to church on Sunday, etc etc. If you do these things, you're a conservi-fag, and chances are you're loaded with pure butthurt.
You can object to Obama's policies without being a retard in the process. Most people just choose not to.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
I live around the DC area, I should know. He does do this, and actually very frequently. You might not think much of it, but considering the amount of people who do business in DC and can't get through, that's alot of people who are either late to meetings/work/whatever, or who outright can't get to their jobs. Not to mention, this can fuck up local businesses just as well, since everyone is focused on this one business he's going to.
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You live in DC? There's your first problem.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
You might not think much of it, but to me, this is fucking bullshit. One man should NOT be able to close down streets and fuck up or "save" a business as he does just because he decides to do so. It's supposed to be a free market, not a market controlled by the government and whatever he wants to go to. He's a fucking President, he needs to start acting like it.
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We torture, you say "We have to do what we have to do". We start a pre-emptive war against a country that hasn't shown any agression toward us, you say "They deserved it". A street near you gets shut down, you say "THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT".
Also, lol @ the president visiting a business = Market controlled by the government. I won't even comment on that. That's too easy.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
Also, the US still has a pretty shitty view from people overseas,
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Obama's fault, I'm sure.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
the economy is hardly being "fixed" (He's just pumping money into businesses he deems fit to throw money at... way to continue fiscal irresponsibility that's been plaguing our nation for years, asshole),
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Lol, if someone on this forum called Bush an "asshole", you would greet them with bullshit like "You're unamerican!" and "Why do you hate this country?".
As for the economy, see below.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
and I haven't really seen us pull out of Iraq yet (LOL WE'RE GONNA PULL OUT OF IRAQ RIGHT AS I'M ELECTED).
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Wai2listen. He's been saying one battalion a month since the beginning of the campaign. He's been overly-cautious in his speaches ("I will consult with my commanders, etc etc"). If you're going to critizes the guy, at least quote things he's actually said.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
I do agree it's good he's finally doing something decent and giving to the scientific community, but who knows, maybe they'll spend shittons of that money trying to research for a vaccine for something minor that's a huge deal all around (Swine flu, anyone).
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Lol @ swine flu.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
And restoring the rule of law?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahah. Yeah, no. If anyone should get their head out of their ass, it's you. He's continuing the same bullshit work arounds Bush did, but is adding his own touch of bullshit on top of it all.
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Pics or it didn't happen.
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 09:21 |
Actually I was- in a good majority of his speeches, he bashes Bush and his blatent "failed policies" and how he can easily fix them, and that "change" would happen almost immediatly. Now that he's in office, his tone changes to "well, bad things are gonna have to happen first before some good things happen". Once again it's the same fucking bullshit we've been experiencing for the past years.
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Bashing Bush doesn't mean "I can fix this in 100 days". He's made it pretty clear it's going to take a while to fix. After all, it took a while to get into. Expecting otherwise betrays your lack of knowledge on how economics works. Just because your unrealistic expectations aren't met doesn't mean you can start spouting bullshit and expect to be taken seriously.
All in all, you should quit your bitching and suck it up.
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....Spoony?
(Sorry for off-topicness, just had to say that)
| nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 19:47 |
Every so often, I get this positive feeling that humanity can somehow, possibly attain pure awesomeness, and enlightenment, and that there is light at the end of the road for us all. However, I only need to go to the latest HUD thread at RenForums to remind me of how dumb I was for thinking such stupid things.
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| Re: Is Obamas Muslimness Bad? [message #389850 is a reply to message #388497] |
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I have to agree with that, even though replying to a wall of text, with a wall of text, usually results in an even large wall of text and that... well, do I have to go on? 
| nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 19:47 |
Every so often, I get this positive feeling that humanity can somehow, possibly attain pure awesomeness, and enlightenment, and that there is light at the end of the road for us all. However, I only need to go to the latest HUD thread at RenForums to remind me of how dumb I was for thinking such stupid things.
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