Re: Renegade X - Nod Update! [message #387577 is a reply to message #387473] |
Sat, 23 May 2009 12:30 |
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Havoc 89
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I dont exactly see how the core of the APC is different. Aside from removing those god aweful wheel guards and front bumper. The general shape is still the same. Two more wheels does not change anything. Those gas tanks are still there, just not in the same place. And the gun was changed so it makes sence instead of contradicting with it's function and the vehicle. Not to mention the gun turret was just two cylinders put together.
The new gun turret will actually have animations for reloading using an automated system. So rather then just hearing a click or two of the turret reloading, you will actually see the old ammo box being ejected as a new one goes into place.
If anything, we've embraced the core and got rid of the things that made it look stupid. As we've previously stated, we're modernizing the designs. Just by looking at any of our art work, you will instantly recognize them but they will still feel fresh and new.
[Updated on: Sat, 23 May 2009 12:32] Report message to a moderator
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Re: Renegade X - Nod Update! [message #387680 is a reply to message #387627] |
Sun, 24 May 2009 11:21 |
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R315r4z0r
Messages: 3836 Registered: March 2005 Location: New York
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Goztow wrote on Sun, 24 May 2009 02:41 | With Renegade, sentiment is more important to me than realism. Oh well, so far for my input .
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It isn't about realism. It's about functionality.
If there was a broken stick from a tree branch in the game that could be used as a flame thrower, would you just simply agree with it because it's in the game?
The Nod APC doesn't fit Nod's design at all. It doesn't even fit the artistic style of the game. And if you want to talk realism, then it doesn't fit that either. That's because the APC wasn't originally supposed to be in the game, it was supposed to be the recon bike in its place. It was added later because EA thought it would make the game unbalanced for GDI to have one and Nod to not. The bike was removed because Nod already has more vehicles than GDI does.
A vehicle like Renegade's Nod APC would be more suited for a job of clearing roads and debris with the excessively large bumper it has and the amount of torque its drive system has.
[Updated on: Sun, 24 May 2009 11:23] Report message to a moderator
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Re: Renegade X - Nod Update! [message #387691 is a reply to message #387473] |
Sun, 24 May 2009 12:07 |
w0dka
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Nice pictures. And to the APC it certanly looks in the whole renegade-x style. I like it. Oh and the wallpaper is my new one Nice work.
Thanks.
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Re: Renegade X - Nod Update! [message #387759 is a reply to message #387604] |
Sun, 24 May 2009 18:11 |
Muad Dib15
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R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 23 May 2009 18:18 | New APC is 5x better than the old retarded one. The old design was not only retarded, but it didn't look functional.
The new APC fixes that, gives it meaning and a design basis, and then some.
LiL KiLLa wrote on Sat, 23 May 2009 09:28 | Nice Update
But WTF IS WITH SAKURA BOOBS
ps... make em bigger
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She's Japanese.. the shape (not size) of them are correct in terms of racial human anatomy.
In other words, the model looks perfect as it does now.
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No, the shape is fine, the size is bigger. She's asian, we need to embrace the sterotype.
THis whole thing is awesome except for having to sign up inorder to see the live wip.
The manliest post on the internet
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Re: Renegade X - Nod Update! [message #387769 is a reply to message #387569] |
Sun, 24 May 2009 20:46 |
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Starbuzzz
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So nice update and great work as usual! Initially for the past days I was somewhat sad the APC was changed (I am quite sentimental as well and feel very strongly about this game).
Eitherway, I think now the new APC goes along with the Light Tank and works with the other reimagined vehicles in your mod. Nod is known for being sneaky fast bastards anyway and this new APC conveys that look.
Can you reveal if your team has begun work on the flying vehicles? I saw in your WIP section that the Nod C-130 was being worked on.
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Re: Renegade X - Nod Update! [message #387821 is a reply to message #387759] |
Mon, 25 May 2009 08:46 |
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R315r4z0r
Messages: 3836 Registered: March 2005 Location: New York
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Muad Dib15 wrote on Sun, 24 May 2009 21:11 |
R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 23 May 2009 18:18 | New APC is 5x better than the old retarded one. The old design was not only retarded, but it didn't look functional.
The new APC fixes that, gives it meaning and a design basis, and then some.
LiL KiLLa wrote on Sat, 23 May 2009 09:28 | Nice Update
But WTF IS WITH SAKURA BOOBS
ps... make em bigger
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She's Japanese.. the shape (not size) of them are correct in terms of racial human anatomy.
In other words, the model looks perfect as it does now.
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No, the shape is fine, the size is bigger....
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Way to repeat exactly what I said :V
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Re: Renegade X - Nod Update! [message #387830 is a reply to message #387680] |
Mon, 25 May 2009 09:49 |
Reaver11
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R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 24 May 2009 13:21 |
It was added later because EA thought it would make the game unbalanced for GDI to have one and Nod to not. The bike was removed because Nod already has more vehicles than GDI does.
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Not really, Nods unitset has been overhauled many times. The first one didn't even include a stealth tank. Heck in the first beta you would have needed two persons to make a buggy usefull. (driver and gunner).
The bike was removed for different reasons in the making of the second Nod unitset. (Which did include an Nod apc, supposebly for balance). The recon bike is pretty complex especially the front suspension which is unfinished. It is not even attached properly to the vehicle. Mainly skipped out because of Westwood kept remoddeling and redoing Renegade. And in need of time and testing the game balance again...
Also I really leave EA out of it. They had nearly nothing to do with Renegade. (Not even with the faults in Renegade[ok all they did was set a release date, which was pretty bad / somewhere also logical otherwise it would be a DNF])
[Updated on: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:50] Report message to a moderator
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