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Playing without Serial Online [message #385691]

Tue, 12 May 2009 10:48

mrÃ£Ã§Ä·z
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Permabanned for trying and failing DDoS

Will this be fixed? Laughing

because you cant ban Peoples then (looking at Wittebolx Laughing

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #385710 is a reply to message #385691]

Tue, 12 May 2009 13:07

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We don't own the serial database, hence this will not (can not) be fixed.

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #385711 is a reply to message #385691]

Tue, 12 May 2009 13:13

mrÃ£Ã§Ä·z
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So Banned Peoples are still welcome Sad

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #385714 is a reply to message #385711]

Tue, 12 May 2009 13:30

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madrackz wrote on Tue, 12 May 2009 22:13

So Banned Peoples are still welcome Sad

Not if you restrict your users to only use WOL.

You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #385716 is a reply to message #385714]

Tue, 12 May 2009 13:53

mrÃ£Ã§Ä·z
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Goztow wrote on Tue, 12 May 2009 15:30

madrackz wrote on Tue, 12 May 2009 22:13

So Banned Peoples are still welcome Sad

Not if you restrict your users to only use WOL.

Can be bypassed Sad

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #385727 is a reply to message #385691]

Tue, 12 May 2009 14:45

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No, it can't.

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #385730 is a reply to message #385714]

Tue, 12 May 2009 15:19

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Goztow wrote on Tue, 12 May 2009 13:30

madrackz wrote on Tue, 12 May 2009 22:13

So Banned Peoples are still welcome Sad

Not if you restrict your users to only use WOL.

Would that also restrict direct connects? >:(

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Tue, 12 May 2009 15:22

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Yes it does, and it blocks GSA users from joining too, that's the main problem with that method. It is the only way to ensure the serials are valid currently though. This blocking is not going to be implemented in TT for that reason (and some other additional reasons... Wink

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Tue, 12 May 2009 15:23

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That's good. I doubt anyone will mind that GSA is being blocked, but DCing is just too convenient. :/

DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #385773 is a reply to message #385691]

Tue, 12 May 2009 23:34

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The method BlackIntel currently implemented would allow the users of your choice to dc. DC'ers are presented with a password, if you give out that password to a restricted number of players, then they could use dc. We never did this because we never had regulars not using WOL/xwis but it would be an option for servers that like to get a good protection and keep their dc regulars.

You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #385820 is a reply to message #385727]

Wed, 13 May 2009 08:48

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StealthEye wrote on Tue, 12 May 2009 16:45

No, it can't.

lol we will see Laughing

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #385824 is a reply to message #385691]

Wed, 13 May 2009 09:03

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We block DC, so try it on the BI/TK2 server then if you think it's possible. Smile

(I'm not saying it's impossible to bypass since there are always other bugs that can be exploited etc., but it's probably not as easy as you seem to think it is)

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #385830 is a reply to message #385691]

Wed, 13 May 2009 09:37

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Im not talking of DC

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #385831 is a reply to message #385691]

Wed, 13 May 2009 09:44

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Then you're not using DC, are you Wink

. And you still need a valid serial then!

You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord

[Updated on: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:46]

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #385837 is a reply to message #385691]

Wed, 13 May 2009 10:39

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Lets wair till the TT Patch come out, then we can start another war Razz

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #385843 is a reply to message #385837]

Wed, 13 May 2009 11:01

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madrackz wrote on Wed, 13 May 2009 19:39

Lets wair till the TT Patch come out, then we can start another war Razz

Just try it on the BI server, because now you're all shouting that it is possible and whatever, but TT will use (mostly) the same way of DC control as BI currently has.

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #385862 is a reply to message #385773]

Wed, 13 May 2009 11:47

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Goztow wrote on Wed, 13 May 2009 08:34

That's a pretty neat system indeed, would be nice if that system would be included into TT/SSGM Thumbs Up

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #386096 is a reply to message #385691]

Thu, 14 May 2009 22:38

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Speaking of D/C and GSA, will TT do anything to fix the problem with servers on the WOL list not displaying players who have joined though those two methods?

For example, two players join my server using GSA, but WOL says there are 0 players inside the server. What the fuck is up with that?

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #386102 is a reply to message #385691]

Thu, 14 May 2009 23:51

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That's because WOL counts the players that connected through it. It's possible to work around it but I'm not sure how much work that would be. It may be done, but don't count on it.

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #386170 is a reply to message #385691]

Fri, 15 May 2009 07:01

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Serial changers ala loki etc. etc., or XSHIT.
That's a bit like aids or cancer.

Is there no third way? Sneaky

(A 100% running ban hammer would be fair enough, maybe 4.0 could send stuff like the MAC adress on connect?)

BÃ¼ckstabÃ¼!

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #386178 is a reply to message #385691]

Fri, 15 May 2009 07:32

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MAC address can be changed easily. Same goes for virtually every hardware related signature (RG included HD serials and we all know ho well that worked).

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #386183 is a reply to message #385691]

Fri, 15 May 2009 07:51

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #386220 is a reply to message #385691]

Fri, 15 May 2009 09:47

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is direct connect going to be allowed , should allow a direct connect option in the client.

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Re: Playing without Serial Online [message #386225 is a reply to message #386178]

Fri, 15 May 2009 09:55

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Ghostshaw wrote on Fri, 15 May 2009 16:32

MAC address can be changed easily. Same goes for virtually every hardware related signature (RG included HD serials and we all know ho well that worked).

Is there no alternative? Huh