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Hypothetical question for those who believe in hell. [message #384124] Sun, 03 May 2009 11:28 Go to next message
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This is directed to those who believe in the religious version of 'hell'. For example, Christians or Muslims who suppose that non-adherents to their religion will suffer horrific punishment after they are dead.

Here is a hypothetical situation. You somehow learn this to be incorrect. You learn that atheists, who have chosen to reject your religion, DON'T go to hell. They just cease to exist in a conscious sense, the body decomposes, etc.

What would be your reaction? Is it a feeling of relief, or of disappointment?


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Re: Hypothetical question for those who believe in hell. [message #384129 is a reply to message #384124] Sun, 03 May 2009 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've heard that Hell is a place where everyone wears plaid bell-bottoms, and the Bay City Rollers play 24/7.

So I'd wager that anyone who heads to hell would be jealous of the atheist who just becomes worm food.


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Re: Hypothetical question for those who believe in hell. [message #384133 is a reply to message #384129] Sun, 03 May 2009 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I meant more generally than individually, have edited the original post.

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Re: Hypothetical question for those who believe in hell. [message #384158 is a reply to message #384124] Sun, 03 May 2009 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Heaven and Hell are both essentially the same thing.

The only difference is that hell is physical punishment while heaven is mental.

If they really existed, the most ideal place to go after you die would be, beyond a doubt, purgatory.
Re: Hypothetical question for those who believe in hell. [message #384159 is a reply to message #384124] Sun, 03 May 2009 16:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I thought that Heaven was supposed to be paradise. Now you're just confusing me R3.

Re: Hypothetical question for those who believe in hell. [message #384170 is a reply to message #384124] Sun, 03 May 2009 16:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is.

Eternal happiness and paradise.

AKA, mental punishment.
Re: Hypothetical question for those who believe in hell. [message #384183 is a reply to message #384124] Sun, 03 May 2009 19:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So you are asking IF it was true that atheists don't go to hell... what would my reaction be?
I'd be more concerned with what happens to those who aren't atheists.


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Re: Hypothetical question for those who believe in hell. [message #384184 is a reply to message #384183] Sun, 03 May 2009 19:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The same thing that happens to atheists. Unless you count the regrets you built up throughout your life due to following empty legacies and words as punishment.

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Re: Hypothetical question for those who believe in hell. [message #384223 is a reply to message #384124] Mon, 04 May 2009 04:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For the sake of the thread, I'll extend the question to my beliefs, as I do believe in a hereafter, and whilst my beliefs are not so cut and shut as heaven and hell, you could draw a rough parallel I suppose.
I would feel disappointed that there was no hereafter, purely because I do not wish to cease being. Not because I have lived my life a certain way for no reward, because I am happy how I live my life.



Re: Hypothetical question for those who believe in hell. [message #384268 is a reply to message #384124] Mon, 04 May 2009 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony wrote on Sun, 03 May 2009 21:28

This is directed to those who believe in the religious version of 'hell'. For example, Christians or Muslims who suppose that non-adherents to their religion will suffer horrific punishment after they are dead.

Here is a hypothetical situation. You somehow learn this to be incorrect. You learn that atheists, who have chosen to reject your religion, DON'T go to hell. They just cease to exist in a conscious sense, the body decomposes, etc.

What would be your reaction? Is it a feeling of relief, or of disappointment?

do you believe in god? (i dont mean deism, etc.)



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Re: Hypothetical question for those who believe in hell. [message #384269 is a reply to message #384124] Mon, 04 May 2009 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On saturday satan got me, i was aggresive and had 7 fights while being drunk. On the next day i didnt even knew i that i had fights.

Thanks, satan In Love
Re: Hypothetical question for those who believe in hell. [message #384271 is a reply to message #384269] Mon, 04 May 2009 13:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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madrackz wrote on Mon, 04 May 2009 22:54

On saturday satan got me, i was aggresive and had 7 fights while being drunk. On the next day i didnt even knew i that i had fights.

Thanks, satan In Love

you sound drunk most of the time Dont Get It
Re: Hypothetical question for those who believe in hell. [message #384272 is a reply to message #384124] Mon, 04 May 2009 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Im just proud to have satan in me, he helped me in my fights!
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That reminds me of another reason I don't like religions. It's never the person responsible who is to blame.

For example, if you make a great achievement, the credit and thanks goes to God. If you do something horrible and/or evil, the blame goes to Satan.

People need to grow up and accept responsibility, good or bad, for what they do.
Re: Hypothetical question for those who believe in hell. [message #384278 is a reply to message #384124] Mon, 04 May 2009 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Haha fuck the Religion, everyone talks trash to get fame hehehe, try to get on MTV, say jesus had blonde hairs, then earn your 10.000$ Yell
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madrackz wrote on Mon, 04 May 2009 13:41

Haha fuck the Religion, everyone talks trash to get fame hehehe, try to get on MTV, say jesus had blonde hairs, then earn your 10.000$ Yell


It's good to know MTV in Germany is just as retarded as MTV in the US.


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Re: Hypothetical question for those who believe in hell. [message #384286 is a reply to message #384272] Mon, 04 May 2009 14:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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madrackz wrote on Mon, 04 May 2009 15:10

Im just proud to have satan in me, he helped me in my fights!

hahahaha
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Dover wrote on Mon, 04 May 2009 16:15

madrackz wrote on Mon, 04 May 2009 13:41

Haha fuck the Religion, everyone talks trash to get fame hehehe, try to get on MTV, say jesus had blonde hairs, then earn your 10.000$ Yell


It's good to know MTV in Germany is just as retarded as MTV in the US.

Yeah thats why you get famous there, for every retarded thing Laughing
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Dover wrote on Mon, 04 May 2009 16:15

madrackz wrote on Mon, 04 May 2009 13:41

Haha fuck the Religion, everyone talks trash to get fame hehehe, try to get on MTV, say jesus had blonde hairs, then earn your 10.000$ Yell


It's good to know MTV in Germany is just as retarded as MTV in the US.


So true.


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archerman wrote on Mon, 04 May 2009 14:49

Spoony wrote on Sun, 03 May 2009 21:28

This is directed to those who believe in the religious version of 'hell'. For example, Christians or Muslims who suppose that non-adherents to their religion will suffer horrific punishment after they are dead.

Here is a hypothetical situation. You somehow learn this to be incorrect. You learn that atheists, who have chosen to reject your religion, DON'T go to hell. They just cease to exist in a conscious sense, the body decomposes, etc.

What would be your reaction? Is it a feeling of relief, or of disappointment?

do you believe in god? (i dont mean deism, etc.)



Define "god", please, in real terms.


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archerman wrote on Mon, 04 May 2009 12:49

Spoony wrote on Sun, 03 May 2009 21:28

This is directed to those who believe in the religious version of 'hell'. For example, Christians or Muslims who suppose that non-adherents to their religion will suffer horrific punishment after they are dead.

Here is a hypothetical situation. You somehow learn this to be incorrect. You learn that atheists, who have chosen to reject your religion, DON'T go to hell. They just cease to exist in a conscious sense, the body decomposes, etc.

What would be your reaction? Is it a feeling of relief, or of disappointment?

I don't have a good answer to this question, so I'm responding with another question and hoping this topic derails.


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