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| Re: Tree Generator!!! [message #381280 is a reply to message #381278] |
Sun, 19 April 2009 06:49   |
DL60
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| YazooGang wrote on Sun, 19 April 2009 08:39 |
Man, thanks this is a good thing. Why didnt you put it in the Mod Release section?
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Because this is not a mod release. This is an article about tree[d] here.
The random tree resized in LE:
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| Re: Tree Generator!!! [message #381353 is a reply to message #381350] |
Sun, 19 April 2009 13:43 |
Pyr0man1c
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| Saberhawk wrote on Sun, 19 April 2009 15:38 |
| madrackz wrote on Sun, 19 April 2009 13:47 |
A way to much Polys for Standard Renegade players  but looks really awesome, nice find
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Which would be a performance killer if video cards were vertex/polygon processing limited. But they haven't been for a very long time now.
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How many years now?Mine is 7 years old so...
"Sapere Aude- Dare to be wise"
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and its all this "drama" that will one day end renegade...
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A question regarding RenGuard. Because it's a client/server application, what will stop the legions of people who cheat, and can crack apps, from reverse engineering it down to it's core protocol / encryption (which I'll assume it has), and duplicating it, so that they have their own client which responds to the server with all the correct info for an unpatched Renegade, but in fact is patched.
Personally, I think you should write a server-side only anti-cheat, which hooks the networking routines in Renegade. From there, using either the help of your staff who worked on creating Renegade, or from knowledge aquired while working with the network code in Renegade, create a system to monitor hit locations (did they REALLY hit, based on calculations by the anti-cheat (stopping BH)), how much damage are they claiming, vs how much damage their currently selected weapon really does, etc.
Then, add rate-of-fire checking, complete w/ lag tolerance (since lagged client will of course, upon delag, seem to fire faster, etc), and option to simply "edit" the incoming packets, to filter out the cheat (reduce damage, stop bullets, etc), or kick-ban the cheater (admins decision, based on anti cheat config).
Is it just me, or does that make more sense?
The flaw to Renegade of course, which is the core to the cheats, is that unlike most other games, Renegade lets the CLIENT decide hit locations, damage, RoF, etc. Vs others which say, "ok, the client fired their pistol along this trajectory. Did they hit something? How much damage did they do to that target if so. Report findings to clients".
My only concern, is that there will be alot more teams of people ripping apart the hard work of your small team, and undoing what you have done. Can you keep up writing fixes / completely rewriting the protocol to counter them once they have created their OWN complete anti-RenGuard client? If not, consider the server-side only method, and solve it once and for all, with the only version changes being to fix bugs, and not complete rewrites which will really piss admins off (if it takes this long for the initial, how long after the cheaters create their own client to counter it will your rewrite take to do?).
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ill say this again to all the TT people actually working on the patch. all you have to do is fix the bugs in the game. This is your role. dont get involved in a pointfix debate that you can never win (spoony has never managed to win one and hes a decent player) nor bother suggesting solutions for the faults in pointfix. just fix the damn bugs and you will all be remmebered as renegade heroes.
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| Re: Tree Generator!!! [message #381404 is a reply to message #381276] |
Sun, 19 April 2009 22:45 |
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Think of poor me - I don't even have a graphics card. Mind you Renegade still runs fine at 1280x1024 without shaders and all standard Renegade quality settings to max on Intel GMA.
WOL: Veyrdite Previously: Dthdealer ( a long time ago )
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| Re: Tree Generator!!! [message #381762 is a reply to message #381276] |
Tue, 21 April 2009 15:03 |
Naamloos
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It's a nice addition to the moddeling tools, but I haven't had a chance to fully test it yet.
Does importing the .x file into 3DS save the colour changes? Animations? Does it break every mesh into a group of polygons like importing W3D does?
Beter known as "raapnaap".
www.apathbeyond.com
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