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BR plugin for RR? [message #372302]

Sun, 15 February 2009 18:39

a000clown
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Commander

Was just wondering if anyone has made a plugin for BR to parse the messages RR outputs into renlog.
If there's none currently available I'll probably give it a try, although my regex is a little rusty.

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Re: BR plugin for RR? [message #372370 is a reply to message #372302]

Mon, 16 February 2009 11:54

cAmpa
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Colonel

We made a small plugin long time ago.
I'm not sure if it still works, try it out.

Attachment: Resurrection.rar
(Size: 1.80KB, Downloaded 289 times)

BÃ¼ckstabÃ¼!

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Re: BR plugin for RR? [message #372451 is a reply to message #372302]

Tue, 17 February 2009 05:48

a000clown
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Commander

Thanks, I'll test it out later today. Wink

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Re: BR plugin for RR? [message #380030 is a reply to message #372302]

Mon, 13 April 2009 13:41

ReLoaDeD
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Recruit

this 1 does not work on my server Huh

could you update the plugin some time ?

for resurrection 1.1.2

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m285/marcel_021/ReLoaDeDSig2.jpg

~~The MatriX Sniper~~
~~The MatriX ReLaX Funserver~~
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Re: BR plugin for RR? [message #380442 is a reply to message #372302]

Wed, 15 April 2009 07:16

ExEric3
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Registered: February 2005
Location: Slovakia

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Colonel

It works u must just edit pm file.

Try edit this:

#
#     RenCom Plugin by cAMpa, Yrr
#     Version 1.06
# 
#     Tested with BRenbot 1.52 (build 1)

package RenCom;

#
#     RenCom Plugin by cAMpa, Yrr
#     Version 1.06
# 
#     Tested with BRenbot 1.52 (build 1)

package Resurrection;

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Re: BR plugin for RR? [message #380451 is a reply to message #372302]

Wed, 15 April 2009 08:47

Genesis2001
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General (1 Star)

Question, doesn't SSGM break when RR is installed? This is as of last I checked tbh.

Some of ssgm's features break, I don't know about all...so the real question is: Can you run ssgm and rr side-by-side without breaking your server? lol.

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Re: BR plugin for RR? [message #380652 is a reply to message #372302]

Thu, 16 April 2009 06:02

Pyr0man1c
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Registered: April 2009

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Recruit

Well it does on clown's server...at least I think it does Listen

"Sapere Aude- Dare to be wise"

AmunRa

and its all this "drama" that will one day end renegade...

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v00d00

A question regarding RenGuard. Because it's a client/server application, what will stop the legions of people who cheat, and can crack apps, from reverse engineering it down to it's core protocol / encryption (which I'll assume it has), and duplicating it, so that they have their own client which responds to the server with all the correct info for an unpatched Renegade, but in fact is patched.

Personally, I think you should write a server-side only anti-cheat, which hooks the networking routines in Renegade. From there, using either the help of your staff who worked on creating Renegade, or from knowledge aquired while working with the network code in Renegade, create a system to monitor hit locations (did they REALLY hit, based on calculations by the anti-cheat (stopping BH)), how much damage are they claiming, vs how much damage their currently selected weapon really does, etc.

Then, add rate-of-fire checking, complete w/ lag tolerance (since lagged client will of course, upon delag, seem to fire faster, etc), and option to simply "edit" the incoming packets, to filter out the cheat (reduce damage, stop bullets, etc), or kick-ban the cheater (admins decision, based on anti cheat config).

Is it just me, or does that make more sense?

The flaw to Renegade of course, which is the core to the cheats, is that unlike most other games, Renegade lets the CLIENT decide hit locations, damage, RoF, etc. Vs others which say, "ok, the client fired their pistol along this trajectory. Did they hit something? How much damage did they do to that target if so. Report findings to clients".

My only concern, is that there will be alot more teams of people ripping apart the hard work of your small team, and undoing what you have done. Can you keep up writing fixes / completely rewriting the protocol to counter them once they have created their OWN complete anti-RenGuard client? If not, consider the server-side only method, and solve it once and for all, with the only version changes being to fix bugs, and not complete rewrites which will really piss admins off (if it takes this long for the initial, how long after the cheaters create their own client to counter it will your rewrite take to do?).

- v00d00

ELiT3FLyR

ill say this again to all the TT people actually working on the patch. all you have to do is fix the bugs in the game. This is your role. dont get involved in a pointfix debate that you can never win (spoony has never managed to win one and hes a decent player) nor bother suggesting solutions for the faults in pointfix. just fix the damn bugs and you will all be remmebered as renegade heroes.

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Re: BR plugin for RR? [message #380940 is a reply to message #380451]

Sat, 18 April 2009 00:19

a000clown
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Zack wrote on Wed, 15 April 2009 11:47

It has some unusual side effects, I think we talked about the random unmanned vehicles being spawned on IRC a while back (still not fixed, btw).
I've reported all the bugs I know of on the RR forums.

I think its features make up for the bugs it currently has though, but that's just me Wink

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