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| Re: If you are not Muslim you should be raped and killed [message #336969 is a reply to message #324866] |
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I guess Catholics should start killing Jews, seeing as they, you know, killed the son of God.
Any religious book is filled with bullshit, that a reader can take or leave. Those of a rational mind, aka, the majority, will ignore the extremities.
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| Re: If you are not Muslim you should be raped and killed [message #337195 is a reply to message #336897] |
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| Muad Dib15 wrote on Sun, 22 June 2008 18:30 |
@Spoony: Before you spout blatent bullshit like that, consider that no one has found proof that God/Allah does or doesn't exist
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pay attention to what I actually said, chief.
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since allah/god/whatever either doesn't exist or doesn't give a shit about us
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do you seriously doubt that one of the above is true?
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Sun, 22 June 2008 18:30 |
or that Muhammed couldn't write.
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oh, he could write despite not being able to read, could he? do you even know anything about Muhammed?
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| Re: If you are not Muslim you should be raped and killed [message #371085 is a reply to message #370157] |
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I've never really understood why people use words like "radical" or "extreme" in this context, when "practicing" seems more appropriate.
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| Re: If you are not Muslim you should be raped and killed [message #371461 is a reply to message #371088] |
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| cheesesoda wrote on Sun, 08 February 2009 11:22 |
It's politically correct. You catch much less grief if you concede that most Muslims are respectable people, and just insult those that take direct action against others in terrorist fashion.
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Pretty much that.
And the liberal views being held by the overwhelming majority, arising from the humanistic values we're indoctrinated with.
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| Re: If you are not Muslim you should be raped and killed [message #371533 is a reply to message #371088] |
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| cheesesoda wrote on Sun, 08 February 2009 09:22 |
You catch much less grief if you concede that most Muslims are respectable people
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I do concede that, actually... the folly is when people think that says anything good about their religion, when if anything it's in spite of their religion.
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| Re: If you are not Muslim you should be raped and killed [message #377956 is a reply to message #377751] |
Mon, 30 March 2009 00:45 |
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the West trains muslims to strap explosives to a child with down's syndrome and then force her to walk into a crowded marketplace full of civilians, eh?
as for killing thousands of people, you do know that the staggering majority of deaths in Iraq are Muslims killing civilians, surely? American and British troops risking their lives trying to prevent it? of course there is legitimate debate as to whether we should've gone in in the first place, as with so much of Western foreign policy, but none of that invalidates criticism of Islam and the endless misery it is responsible for.
as for Anjem Choudary, what's strange is he apparently used to be a drinker and drug user in his youth, before he found Islam. he denies that past (although photos seem to prove otherwise), but I'm not sure why - he seems to've been a far better person before Islam corrupted him into a dangerous, delusional bigot.
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| Re: If you are not Muslim you should be raped and killed [message #378133 is a reply to message #377956] |
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| Spoony wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 03:45 |
the West trains muslims to strap explosives to a child with down's syndrome and then force her to walk into a crowded marketplace full of civilians, eh?
as for killing thousands of people, you do know that the staggering majority of deaths in Iraq are Muslims killing civilians, surely? American and British troops risking their lives trying to prevent it? of course there is legitimate debate as to whether we should've gone in in the first place, as with so much of Western foreign policy, but none of that invalidates criticism of Islam and the endless misery it is responsible for.
as for Anjem Choudary, what's strange is he apparently used to be a drinker and drug user in his youth, before he found Islam. he denies that past (although photos seem to prove otherwise), but I'm not sure why - he seems to've been a far better person before Islam corrupted him into a dangerous, delusional bigot.
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Sounds pretty metal.
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| Re: If you are not Muslim you should be raped and killed [message #380603 is a reply to message #377956] |
Thu, 16 April 2009 03:37 |
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| Spoony wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 01:45 |
the West trains muslims to strap explosives to a child with down's syndrome and then force her to walk into a crowded marketplace full of civilians, eh?
as for killing thousands of people, you do know that the staggering majority of deaths in Iraq are Muslims killing civilians, surely? American and British troops risking their lives trying to prevent it? of course there is legitimate debate as to whether we should've gone in in the first place, as with so much of Western foreign policy, but none of that invalidates criticism of Islam and the endless misery it is responsible for.
as for Anjem Choudary, what's strange is he apparently used to be a drinker and drug user in his youth, before he found Islam. he denies that past (although photos seem to prove otherwise), but I'm not sure why - he seems to've been a far better person before Islam corrupted him into a dangerous, delusional bigot.
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Almost all of these people are wrong, because they have been corrupt, and brainwashed to believe wrong things, and for a start suiciding is not allowed in Islam and neither is killing innocents. A lot of these people who were brainwashed were probably depressed or something, and easy to brainwash into doing these terrible things.
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and its all this "drama" that will one day end renegade...
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A question regarding RenGuard. Because it's a client/server application, what will stop the legions of people who cheat, and can crack apps, from reverse engineering it down to it's core protocol / encryption (which I'll assume it has), and duplicating it, so that they have their own client which responds to the server with all the correct info for an unpatched Renegade, but in fact is patched.
Personally, I think you should write a server-side only anti-cheat, which hooks the networking routines in Renegade. From there, using either the help of your staff who worked on creating Renegade, or from knowledge aquired while working with the network code in Renegade, create a system to monitor hit locations (did they REALLY hit, based on calculations by the anti-cheat (stopping BH)), how much damage are they claiming, vs how much damage their currently selected weapon really does, etc.
Then, add rate-of-fire checking, complete w/ lag tolerance (since lagged client will of course, upon delag, seem to fire faster, etc), and option to simply "edit" the incoming packets, to filter out the cheat (reduce damage, stop bullets, etc), or kick-ban the cheater (admins decision, based on anti cheat config).
Is it just me, or does that make more sense?
The flaw to Renegade of course, which is the core to the cheats, is that unlike most other games, Renegade lets the CLIENT decide hit locations, damage, RoF, etc. Vs others which say, "ok, the client fired their pistol along this trajectory. Did they hit something? How much damage did they do to that target if so. Report findings to clients".
My only concern, is that there will be alot more teams of people ripping apart the hard work of your small team, and undoing what you have done. Can you keep up writing fixes / completely rewriting the protocol to counter them once they have created their OWN complete anti-RenGuard client? If not, consider the server-side only method, and solve it once and for all, with the only version changes being to fix bugs, and not complete rewrites which will really piss admins off (if it takes this long for the initial, how long after the cheaters create their own client to counter it will your rewrite take to do?).
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ill say this again to all the TT people actually working on the patch. all you have to do is fix the bugs in the game. This is your role. dont get involved in a pointfix debate that you can never win (spoony has never managed to win one and hes a decent player) nor bother suggesting solutions for the faults in pointfix. just fix the damn bugs and you will all be remmebered as renegade heroes.
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| Re: If you are not Muslim you should be raped and killed [message #380857 is a reply to message #336897] |
Fri, 17 April 2009 13:23 |
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| Muad Dib15 wrote on Sun, 22 June 2008 18:30 |
| HeavyX101 wrote on Thu, 19 June 2008 19:10 |
Well, I'm a muslim. And i dont think that the non-belivers of islam should get punnished. And i dont think that allah would of say that.
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If you are a muslim, then you should stop being one right now since you obviouly don't know the qur'an.
[40.70]Those who reject the Book and that with which We have sent Our Apostle; but they shall soon come to know,
[40.71] When the fetters and the chains shall be on their necks; they shall be dragged
[40.72] Into boiling water, then in the fire shall they be burned;
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=DIV0&byte=733153
@Spoony: Before you spout blatent bullshit like that, consider that no one has found proof that God/Allah does or doesn't exist or that Muhammed couldn't write.
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Who are they?And when will they come to know?
"Sapere Aude- Dare to be wise"
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and its all this "drama" that will one day end renegade...
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Quotes| v00d00 |
A question regarding RenGuard. Because it's a client/server application, what will stop the legions of people who cheat, and can crack apps, from reverse engineering it down to it's core protocol / encryption (which I'll assume it has), and duplicating it, so that they have their own client which responds to the server with all the correct info for an unpatched Renegade, but in fact is patched.
Personally, I think you should write a server-side only anti-cheat, which hooks the networking routines in Renegade. From there, using either the help of your staff who worked on creating Renegade, or from knowledge aquired while working with the network code in Renegade, create a system to monitor hit locations (did they REALLY hit, based on calculations by the anti-cheat (stopping BH)), how much damage are they claiming, vs how much damage their currently selected weapon really does, etc.
Then, add rate-of-fire checking, complete w/ lag tolerance (since lagged client will of course, upon delag, seem to fire faster, etc), and option to simply "edit" the incoming packets, to filter out the cheat (reduce damage, stop bullets, etc), or kick-ban the cheater (admins decision, based on anti cheat config).
Is it just me, or does that make more sense?
The flaw to Renegade of course, which is the core to the cheats, is that unlike most other games, Renegade lets the CLIENT decide hit locations, damage, RoF, etc. Vs others which say, "ok, the client fired their pistol along this trajectory. Did they hit something? How much damage did they do to that target if so. Report findings to clients".
My only concern, is that there will be alot more teams of people ripping apart the hard work of your small team, and undoing what you have done. Can you keep up writing fixes / completely rewriting the protocol to counter them once they have created their OWN complete anti-RenGuard client? If not, consider the server-side only method, and solve it once and for all, with the only version changes being to fix bugs, and not complete rewrites which will really piss admins off (if it takes this long for the initial, how long after the cheaters create their own client to counter it will your rewrite take to do?).
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ill say this again to all the TT people actually working on the patch. all you have to do is fix the bugs in the game. This is your role. dont get involved in a pointfix debate that you can never win (spoony has never managed to win one and hes a decent player) nor bother suggesting solutions for the faults in pointfix. just fix the damn bugs and you will all be remmebered as renegade heroes.
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| Re: If you are not Muslim you should be raped and killed [message #380861 is a reply to message #324866] |
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"@Spoony: Before you spout blatent bullshit like that, consider that no one has found proof that God/Allah does or doesn't exist or that Muhammed couldn't write."
extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
enjoy spending your time believing some mentally retarded pedophile supposedly said concerning something that has no proof and defies all logic
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| Re: If you are not Muslim you should be raped and killed [message #380874 is a reply to message #380857] |
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| Pyr0man1c wrote on Fri, 17 April 2009 15:23 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Sun, 22 June 2008 18:30 |
| HeavyX101 wrote on Thu, 19 June 2008 19:10 |
Well, I'm a muslim. And i dont think that the non-belivers of islam should get punnished. And i dont think that allah would of say that.
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If you are a muslim, then you should stop being one right now since you obviouly don't know the qur'an.
[40.70]Those who reject the Book and that with which We have sent Our Apostle; but they shall soon come to know,
[40.71] When the fetters and the chains shall be on their necks; they shall be dragged
[40.72] Into boiling water, then in the fire shall they be burned;
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=DIV0&byte=733153
@Spoony: Before you spout blatent bullshit like that, consider that no one has found proof that God/Allah does or doesn't exist or that Muhammed couldn't write.
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Who are they?And when will they come to know?
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Sorry I didn't make myself clear, my fault
at the first question when will this happen
EDIT:oops...
"Sapere Aude- Dare to be wise"
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and its all this "drama" that will one day end renegade...
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Quotes| v00d00 |
A question regarding RenGuard. Because it's a client/server application, what will stop the legions of people who cheat, and can crack apps, from reverse engineering it down to it's core protocol / encryption (which I'll assume it has), and duplicating it, so that they have their own client which responds to the server with all the correct info for an unpatched Renegade, but in fact is patched.
Personally, I think you should write a server-side only anti-cheat, which hooks the networking routines in Renegade. From there, using either the help of your staff who worked on creating Renegade, or from knowledge aquired while working with the network code in Renegade, create a system to monitor hit locations (did they REALLY hit, based on calculations by the anti-cheat (stopping BH)), how much damage are they claiming, vs how much damage their currently selected weapon really does, etc.
Then, add rate-of-fire checking, complete w/ lag tolerance (since lagged client will of course, upon delag, seem to fire faster, etc), and option to simply "edit" the incoming packets, to filter out the cheat (reduce damage, stop bullets, etc), or kick-ban the cheater (admins decision, based on anti cheat config).
Is it just me, or does that make more sense?
The flaw to Renegade of course, which is the core to the cheats, is that unlike most other games, Renegade lets the CLIENT decide hit locations, damage, RoF, etc. Vs others which say, "ok, the client fired their pistol along this trajectory. Did they hit something? How much damage did they do to that target if so. Report findings to clients".
My only concern, is that there will be alot more teams of people ripping apart the hard work of your small team, and undoing what you have done. Can you keep up writing fixes / completely rewriting the protocol to counter them once they have created their OWN complete anti-RenGuard client? If not, consider the server-side only method, and solve it once and for all, with the only version changes being to fix bugs, and not complete rewrites which will really piss admins off (if it takes this long for the initial, how long after the cheaters create their own client to counter it will your rewrite take to do?).
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ill say this again to all the TT people actually working on the patch. all you have to do is fix the bugs in the game. This is your role. dont get involved in a pointfix debate that you can never win (spoony has never managed to win one and hes a decent player) nor bother suggesting solutions for the faults in pointfix. just fix the damn bugs and you will all be remmebered as renegade heroes.
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| Re: If you are not Muslim you should be raped and killed [message #380959 is a reply to message #336897] |
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| Muad Dib15 wrote on Mon, 23 June 2008 02:30 |
| HeavyX101 wrote on Thu, 19 June 2008 19:10 |
Well, I'm a muslim. And i dont think that the non-belivers of islam should get punnished. And i dont think that allah would of say that.
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If you are a muslim, then you should stop being one right now since you obviouly don't know the qur'an.
[40.70]Those who reject the Book and that with which We have sent Our Apostle; but they shall soon come to know,
[40.71] When the fetters and the chains shall be on their necks; they shall be dragged
[40.72] Into boiling water, then in the fire shall they be burned;
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=DIV0&byte=733153
@Spoony: Before you spout blatent bullshit like that, consider that no one has found proof that God/Allah does or doesn't exist or that Muhammed couldn't write.
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Muad Dib15 you are the most stupid creature this world and this community ever seen. obviously you have no idea about quran nor arabic. even posting this about you is waste of time.
and to the people who thinks its the muslims who are killing the civilians in iraq: innocent 100 civilians werent being killed in a car explosion every day before the occupation.
its all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, period.
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| Re: If you are not Muslim you should be raped and killed [message #380990 is a reply to message #380959] |
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| archerman wrote on Sat, 18 April 2009 07:01 |
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Mon, 23 June 2008 02:30 |
| HeavyX101 wrote on Thu, 19 June 2008 19:10 |
Well, I'm a muslim. And i dont think that the non-belivers of islam should get punnished. And i dont think that allah would of say that.
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If you are a muslim, then you should stop being one right now since you obviouly don't know the qur'an.
[40.70]Those who reject the Book and that with which We have sent Our Apostle; but they shall soon come to know,
[40.71] When the fetters and the chains shall be on their necks; they shall be dragged
[40.72] Into boiling water, then in the fire shall they be burned;
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=DIV0&byte=733153
@Spoony: Before you spout blatent bullshit like that, consider that no one has found proof that God/Allah does or doesn't exist or that Muhammed couldn't write.
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Muad Dib15 you are the most stupid creature this world and this community ever seen. obviously you have no idea about quran nor arabic. even posting this about you is waste of time.
and to the people who thinks its the muslims who are killing the civilians in iraq: innocent 100 civilians werent being killed in a car explosion every day before the occupation.
its all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, period.
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Yeah, you're right, it's entirely America's fault that the Iraqi insurgency see's it fit to kill scores of their owncivilians with suicide bombing tactics, hunt and execute anyone who cooperates with coalition forces, torture and execute captured American soldiers for show and strap bombs to mentally deficient women and babies.
Hail the glorious Iraqi freedom fighters! Death to the American imperial scourge!!
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