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'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377326]

Tue, 24 March 2009 12:18

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http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-10202688-235.html?tag=TOCmoreStories.0

Interesting concept, and if it works as planned, this could really shake up the video game industry.

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377327 is a reply to message #377326]

Tue, 24 March 2009 12:30

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A lot can change is 7 years. They better hurry their asses up.

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377328 is a reply to message #377326]

Tue, 24 March 2009 12:31

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Sounds like a nice idea, SD games being able to be played with a 1.5MB connection(5MB for HD)is also very appealing.

This could make the console makers work much harder on their consoles(Microsoft was lazy with the 360 imo tbh).

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377329 is a reply to message #377326]

Tue, 24 March 2009 12:32

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That looks pretty awesome tbh, But I doubt that their streaming the video game will work flawlessly though

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377332 is a reply to message #377326]

Tue, 24 March 2009 13:24

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http://g4tv.com/xplay/videos/37359/GDC-09-OnLive-Video-Game-Service.html

It sounds they have spent a lot of time working on the lag issues, the little TV Console box thing being less than any console out today sounds very nice, we're looking at possibly $100-200 I would think.

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377334 is a reply to message #377326]

Tue, 24 March 2009 16:04

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Bah. Half the towns round here couldn't use that service for the sheer bandwith requirement.

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377335 is a reply to message #377334]

Tue, 24 March 2009 16:30

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Sounds like another step towards Cloud Computing.

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377340 is a reply to message #377326]

Tue, 24 March 2009 19:04

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Digital distribution is bullshit. Whenever I buy a game, I want a physical copy of it.

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377341 is a reply to message #377340]

Tue, 24 March 2009 19:16

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Canadacdn wrote on Tue, 24 March 2009 22:04

Digital distribution is bullshit. Whenever I buy a game, I want a physical copy of it.

I was about to post the same thing.

I don't want to "subscribe" to some digital "rental" service. I want to own a physical game and play it on my own time, free of charge (bar the purchase costs)

I don't like this concept at all.

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377343 is a reply to message #377326]

Tue, 24 March 2009 20:05

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It's an alternative. Besides, the popularity of Steam, and Netflix show that a substantial amount of people don't care if they don't have the actual product in their hands.

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377345 is a reply to message #377326]

Tue, 24 March 2009 20:23

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This really isn't competition for Wii. Wii has its own thing going on with its intuitive games that this OnLive thing can't mimic very easily.

If Nintendo goes back to making standard consoles, then that's when this OnLive will be competition for them. But then again, consoles do have their "Only for" games.. Like Mario & Zelda for Nintendo, Master Chief for Xbox, ect. I don't think those companies will simply give up their trademarks to a competing corporation.

My guess is that if anything happens, the other game companies will make something similar to this thing for their own games.

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377346 is a reply to message #377343]

Tue, 24 March 2009 20:40

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nikki6ixx wrote on Tue, 24 March 2009 21:05

It's an alternative. Besides, the popularity of Steam, and Netflix show that a substantial amount of people don't care if they don't have the actual product in their hands.

Steam is ass, and I only tolerate it because of the quality of the Half-Life series. Regardless, I still hate paying for something I don't have in my hands, and can only access when I'm connected to the internet. Essentially, I'm paying Valve for the privelage to play their games when they say I can. Imagine if your car dealer required you to walk over to their dealership and pick up the keys each time you wanted to drive your car. What if the dealership's closed because they have to do maintenance on the building? Tough shit, because you're their bitch now, and you're paying for it.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that Valve does still sell disc copies of their games, but you still have to be on Steam to play them, so my argument is valid.

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Tue, 24 March 2009 20:45

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If there's a choice to just purchase and download the full game, then great!

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377354 is a reply to message #377326]

Wed, 25 March 2009 00:06

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I'm not liking this concept either. If everything will be subscription based, then count me out. Due to the amount of powerful servers and power they will need in datacenters will make this expensive. Also the amount of bandwidth they need to supply to millions of gamers on a daily basis will easily be in the high 50-100+Gbps ranges to satisfy the gamers with no lag. Not to mention the amount of servers they will have to place around the globe to satisfy gamers in the other territories. All of this taken into consideration will make this expensive, and we will have to pay for it for high monthly subscriptions I imagine...

I do not like this idea and probably wont participate since I wont have the actual hardware. I enjoy having the actual hardware for the gaming console and doing whatever I want with it, modifying it, upgrading it, and whatever else I want. I'm sure the games will be leased to you on a monthly basis for you to play. All of this is total BS and I don't support the idea. I have like 20 PS3 games, holy crap what would the monthly subscription cost to have all of that?

However this is a very creative idea and hopefuly they can make it offordable and wanted by us gamers. But with the bandwidth, high spec servers, datacenters, and everything else needed just doesn't warrant for affordable game playing. I'm not sure how they are going to do this. Kids will have to steal their parents credit card to afford this.

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377421 is a reply to message #377326]

Wed, 25 March 2009 14:33

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That's another thing that I forgot to mention above. Subscriptions.

If I have to constantly pay per day/week/month/year to play a game like this, it isn't worth it.

I want to pay it all up front and have the physical game to play whenever I want, without the need for an internet connection.

I can stand some internet distribution routes and have used a few from time to time (Steam, EA Store, Xbox LIVE Marketplace, ect) But if I can chose, I want to own the game permanently and physically.

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377426 is a reply to message #377326]

Wed, 25 March 2009 14:47

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For someone like me, this service is perfect. I don't own many games, and although I'd like to play new ones, I can't justify buying a 'next-gen' console, or getting a good computer, and then buying games on top of that.

If this has a cheap entry fee, I'd happily fork over a small subscription payment if it lets me select from a slew of new games. Or even better, a day/week rate where I can play a game to see if I like it.

What would be awesome is pre-paying for a certain amount of hours, and you get a smorgasbord of new games to choose from. I'd sign up for that in a heartbeat.

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377444 is a reply to message #377326]

Wed, 25 March 2009 16:08

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cool, now we'll be able to play singleplayer games in shitty resolution and high latency.

yeah boyeeee

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377454 is a reply to message #377326]

Wed, 25 March 2009 18:01

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I really don't care who makes the system, I just want the best out there. This looks like teh ownage, but at a costly price I imagine :\

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Thu, 26 March 2009 11:37

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Now, even though I still prefer to own physical games, you have to admit it is pretty cool. Check out the videos on IGN:

http://pc.ign.com/dor/articles/965599/gdc-09-onlive-video-demos/videos/onlive_de mostream_032309.html

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Thu, 26 March 2009 19:50

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that video made me j*zz in my pants! i'd use it on my computer because it's got 1200x800 so that would look nice Smile

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377587 is a reply to message #377326]

Thu, 26 March 2009 20:06

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Also, if I understand right, this system would mean you wouldn't need to upgrade your computer hardware, or buy a new console to play the 'next-generation' of games.

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377592 is a reply to message #377326]

Thu, 26 March 2009 20:23

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From a PC gaming standpoint, it sounds like a good idea. But from a console gaming standpoint, I don't like it.

I like getting new consoles and the games for them. They do many more things than just play games, and I find it better to have an active physical game library.

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Thu, 26 March 2009 20:30

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R315r4z0r wrote on Thu, 26 March 2009 21:23

lol, I like getting new stuff too, but console's are pricey, at least for me, but that's down to priorities. Plus, the things console's do today can easily be done on a computer, and better.

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Re: 'OnLive' could threaten Xbox, PS3, and Wii [message #377599 is a reply to message #377326]

Thu, 26 March 2009 21:19

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If I can't go to Walmart and buy the game I want on a physical disk, and install and activate it without an internet connection, then I'll never buy another game again. I like games, but sorry, I don't like not having control over what I trade my cash for. If that was the case then I'll go blow money on something more meaningful.

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