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IMPORTANT: Information on cheaters spotted in Renegade [message #36901] Wed, 06 August 2003 15:19 Go to next message
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Hi guys,

I warned you that I was going to address you all about all the cheating threads. I guess there's little hope now in trying to convince you that there are still no cheats in Renegade. Sadly, there are now some pretty lethal cheats. What I'm going to do now is explain the two known cheats that you're going to start seeing (if you haven't already) in the servers.

First, to those who cheat: You really and truly are ruining for yourself what could have been an awesome game. When you use either of these cheats, you will have great fun killing people left and right, for like, a day, maybe a week if you're truly pathetic. Then you'll never play again because you will move on to another game. The game without cheats is truly fun, because all skill levels can come together as a team and play. If you're a lousy shot, that's OK, because you don't need aim to sneak into the base and C4 an MCT and blow a building up.

Moving on, there are 2 known cheats in the game right now. Both very lethal. The first is the one you will see the most of. It might be mistaken as aimbot, when it actually almost eliminates the need for one. It's the bighead mod. Please don't automatically assume that if someone pulls off one or two glorious lucky headshots, they are cheating. Someone with this mod will have difficulty hitting you without it being a headshot. If sniping, they will use a Deadeye/Black Hand because they don't need the power of the ramjet rifle.

The second cheat is significantly less widespread. It's a working wallhack. You'll recognize the wallhacker because he'll be looking at walls a lot and is often shooting them. Remember some of us get bored waiting for money and we'll aimlessly shoot walls as well, but if he's getting kills while doing so, you've got yourself a wallhacker.

I will provide NO information as to where to find these cheats, or how they are created.

What can we do to stop the cheaters?

A program is being created, a collaborative effort between mac, Jonathan Wilson, Olaf Van Der Spek, and Greg Underwood (Codewench, formerly of Westwood). This program will run on the server and the client. Players who want to play on cheat-free servers will have to install a small program which checks for known and unknown cheats or else you'll be unceremoniously booted and blacklisted.

Until this application is complete, I have created a private server owner's forum where trusted server owners can collaborate where cheaters are spotted, so that banlists can be created to not really prevent, but at least deter these morons from polluting the games for those of us who have enough fun playing honestly. To gain access to this forum, you must contact me in PM stating the name of your server, WOL or GameSpy, and serious server owners will be allowed in to swap reports and spottings of cheaters.


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[Updated on: Wed, 06 August 2003 15:38]

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IMPORTANT: Information on cheaters spotted in Renegade [message #36902] Wed, 06 August 2003 15:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Add to the list:

The wallhack doesn't necessarily need to be an exterior program. There are glitches which allow anyone, anywhere, to shoot through walls.



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IMPORTANT: Information on cheaters spotted in Renegade [message #36903] Wed, 06 August 2003 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Crimson, for keeping us all informed.

So who claimed their HD from Blazer for exposing these then? Very Happy


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IMPORTANT: Information on cheaters spotted in Renegade [message #36904] Wed, 06 August 2003 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't think you should even say what types of hacks they are, it makes them easier to figure out how to create, even if it still is hard.

I, personally, think it's enough to just let people know how to identify them, although that may make some people paranoid...
IMPORTANT: Information on cheaters spotted in Renegade [message #36905] Wed, 06 August 2003 15:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Unless the names/IP's are going directly onto a ban list, will server moderators have access to the names in order to keep a lookout for them?
IMPORTANT: Information on cheaters spotted in Renegade [message #36906] Wed, 06 August 2003 15:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I shall help in the extermination of those who use the cheats. I shall report to n00bstories.com if I encounter any strange behavior.

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IMPORTANT: Information on cheaters spotted in Renegade [message #36910] Wed, 06 August 2003 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmm....funny how everyone on here laughed at me when I said about the "big head" cheat a month or so ago.....I was basically told I was a n00b.....haha kind of ironic isnt it? I know who told me about it (Im sure Crimson knows who started it as well....but if she doesn't Ill let you know just ask) But anywho....thanks for letting everyone else know.....I sure hope there is a way to stop this.....can you use that punk buster program that games like SOF2 RTCW AA use? Hmm....hope this gets an end put to it.
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Add to the list:

The wallhack doesn't necessarily need to be an exterior program. There are glitches which allow anyone, anywhere, to shoot through walls.


Yes, mister Know-it-all, who just a few days ago, denied the existence of any wallhack at all...I was ready to come to the FUD servers and show you myself Cool
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I know nothing else to say, but =/. I guess I'll have to listen to the people that scream "OMG U AIMBOT CHEATER" on my server now. My life gets more and more complicated everyday. *Sigh*


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We are discussing this in #n00bstories IRC if you have questions.

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Scrumfy

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Add to the list:

The wallhack doesn't necessarily need to be an exterior program. There are glitches which allow anyone, anywhere, to shoot through walls.


Yes, mister Know-it-all, who just a few days ago, denied the existence of any wallhack at all...I was ready to come to the FUD servers and show you myself Cool


Silence you impudent worm. I was refering to a program outside of Renegade. I'm TALKING about a glitch inside Renegade.



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IMPORTANT: Information on cheaters spotted in Renegade [message #36917] Wed, 06 August 2003 15:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Scrumfy

Javaxcx

Add to the list:

The wallhack doesn't necessarily need to be an exterior program. There are glitches which allow anyone, anywhere, to shoot through walls.


Yes, mister Know-it-all, who just a few days ago, denied the existence of any wallhack at all...I was ready to come to the FUD servers and show you myself Cool


Silence you impudent worm. I was refering to a program outside of Renegade. I'm TALKING about a glitch inside Renegade.


I know what you're talking about as well, it just seems you change your mind an awful lot Smile
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Then you didn't understand that arguement in the slightest in the first place. Laughing


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*presses fingers against temples* My flame war sense is tingling...

Come on, this is an important topic, it doesn't need burnt to a crisp.
IMPORTANT: Information on cheaters spotted in Renegade [message #36926] Wed, 06 August 2003 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sad This is realy fucking bad, I play this game because, well I cant shoot too well, but with this game I could at least run in to the base with C4 and kill buildings or spend my time as a rav or pic shooting tanks - its hard to miss somthing as big as a med or apc - and I could help win games.

I do hope something is done about this. And then I can get back to playing.
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Then you didn't understand that arguement in the slightest in the first place. Laughing


Of course I did, however, Taximes is right, so I'm not going to give a significant reply to your ignorance
IMPORTANT: Information on cheaters spotted in Renegade [message #36936] Wed, 06 August 2003 16:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, please do not turn this into a flame war.

I wanted to attach a rider to my post... Blazer and Dante will apparently also be involved in this new program since they will probably be meshed into BR.NET and BRenBot for Linux.


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IMPORTANT: Information on cheaters spotted in Renegade [message #36937] Wed, 06 August 2003 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I.......well..........I just.........I'm really going to miss laughing at all the cheating claims.............aimbot........wallhack...........now.......it is the n00bs who are laughing at us.

Sad
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Ah, so maybe I don't suck as bad as I thought I do, probally a bunch of n00bs toting big head mods, lol Wink I just suck... If there is anything that I can do to help remove this cheating, feel free to grab me... Even if it is just to be a goofy cheerleader or something =P

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I.......well..........I just.........I'm really going to miss laughing at all the cheating claims.............aimbot........wallhack...........now.......it is the n00bs who are laughing at us.

Sad
Been fun
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yea this is bad.=(..


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You could do a mIRC version of this aswell o_O.
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Then you didn't understand that arguement in the slightest in the first place. Laughing


Of course I did, however, Taximes is right, so I'm not going to give a significant reply to your ignorance


Whatever you need to do to convince yourself you're right. Smile



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It sounds like a lot of you think Renegade is going to die now...It won't, as long as the cheats aren't spread, especially when the best minds in the community are working to prevent it.

Just do your part by not telling anyone how the cheats work if you know, and not asking if you don't know.
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