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| Re: 67th annaversery of 12/7/41 [message #361841 is a reply to message #361837] |
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| BlueThen wrote on Sun, 07 December 2008 10:00 |
| SSnipe wrote on Sun, 07 December 2008 11:59 |
what attack?
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Pearl Harbor. Look it up next time.
EDIT: i see it now i copy and pasted his date instead of typing it out as december 7 1941
RIP
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I googled the date never got direct answer
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| Re: 67th annaversery of 12/7/41 [message #361874 is a reply to message #361873] |
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not really, cos the Bible doesn't say when Christmas is. that comes from traditions stolen from pagan festivals, the movements of the sun and stars and whatnot.
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| Re: 67th annaversery of 12/7/41 [message #361895 is a reply to message #361834] |
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Wow. A thread giving respect to those who died on Dec. 7 and there's already arguing going on.
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| Re: 67th annaversery of 12/7/41 [message #361937 is a reply to message #361914] |
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| GoArmy44 wrote on Mon, 08 December 2008 04:53 |
What you are talking about is the birth of Christ.
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Which also didnt happen on December 25th! December 25th is the pagan winter solstace or Roman Brumalia (meaning new sun or shortest day). Brumalia being ancient Greek in origin.
| Spoony wrote on Sun, 07 December 2008 15:35 |
not really, cos the Bible doesn't say when Christmas is. that comes from traditions stolen from pagan festivals, the movements of the sun and stars and what not.
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The original pagan festival - the winter solstace, was very much celebrated when the bible was written. Just not by Christianity. In fact, Christianity celebrated more significant events like the death of Christ, the ressurection etc... not his birth - at least, not until much later. By then, no-one had a clue as to when he was born.
The word Christmas is derived from Christ Mass - Christ (obvious), Mass - the ancient Greek meaning celebration of death (or there abouts).
Christmas as we know it, was invented by Roman Christians who realised that it would be easier to convert an entire country to Christianity (ie. ancient England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland) by integrating the more popular and traditional pagan rituals (Brumalia) and passing them off as their own.
So really, if you celebrate Christmas, you are either celebrating the death of Christ. Or, you're a heathen paganist! 
| Muad Dib15 wrote on Sun, 07 December 2008 11:51 |
To all those men (and women?) that died in the attack, RIP.
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Anyways, back to the original point to this thread! RIP to all men and women who lost their lives due to the events of that day.
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| Re: 67th annaversery of 12/7/41 [message #361953 is a reply to message #361834] |
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Jeremiah 10
God and Idols
1 Hear what the LORD says to you, O house of Israel. 2 This is what the LORD says:
"Do not learn the ways of the nations
or be terrified by signs in the sky,
though the nations are terrified by them.
3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless;
they cut a tree out of the forest,
and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.
4 They adorn it with silver and gold;
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so it will not totter.
5 Like a scarecrow in a melon patch,
their idols cannot speak;
they must be carried
because they cannot walk.
Do not fear them;
they can do no harm
nor can they do any good."
6 No one is like you, O LORD;
you are great,
and your name is mighty in power.
7 Who should not revere you,
O King of the nations?
This is your due.
Among all the wise men of the nations
and in all their kingdoms,
there is no one like you.
8 They are all senseless and foolish;
they are taught by worthless wooden idols.
9 Hammered silver is brought from Tarshish
and gold from Uphaz.
What the craftsman and goldsmith have made
is then dressed in blue and purple—
all made by skilled workers.
10 But the LORD is the true God;
he is the living God, the eternal King.
When he is angry, the earth trembles;
the nations cannot endure his wrath.
11 "Tell them this: 'These gods, who did not make the heavens and the earth, will perish from the earth and from under the heavens.' " [a]
12 But God made the earth by his power;
he founded the world by his wisdom
and stretched out the heavens by his understanding.
13 When he thunders, the waters in the heavens roar;
he makes clouds rise from the ends of the earth.
He sends lightning with the rain
and brings out the wind from his storehouses.
14 Everyone is senseless and without knowledge;
every goldsmith is shamed by his idols.
His images are a fraud;
they have no breath in them.
15 They are worthless, the objects of mockery;
when their judgment comes, they will perish.
16 He who is the Portion of Jacob is not like these,
for he is the Maker of all things,
including Israel, the tribe of his inheritance—
the LORD Almighty is his name.
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