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Wed, 19 November 2008 12:45

renalpha
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Well i got an SSD mtron 3000 in my laptop.

I must say its quick.
Originally 150 times faster.

Anyone got the same experience?
SSD r0x

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Re: SSD vs sata etc [message #359026 is a reply to message #359025]

Wed, 19 November 2008 12:51

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SSD sounds very promising, but I'm not going to dive in yet. They really have a small number of read/write cycles before mean failure, and I don't feel like getting something that unreliable for the moment.

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Re: SSD vs sata etc [message #359148 is a reply to message #359025]

Thu, 20 November 2008 14:21

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My understanding of SSD is that the hard drive spins at full speed/power 100% of the time. Given that, it is fail for laptops because a battery issues. I have heard it is very fast and pretty stable for new technology though.

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Re: SSD vs sata etc [message #359151 is a reply to message #359148]

Thu, 20 November 2008 14:35

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luv2pb wrote on Thu, 20 November 2008 15:21

Actually, it's totally solid memory, similar to the cards that are used in a Digital Camera/mp3 player; therefore it doesn't spin at all, which makes them totally 'win' for laptops.

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Thu, 20 November 2008 14:37

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What happened to those high density drives IBM were putting together in the late 90's. You know, 2GB drives only 1" in length

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Re: SSD vs sata etc [message #359199 is a reply to message #359148]

Thu, 20 November 2008 21:45

Ethenal
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luv2pb wrote on Thu, 20 November 2008 15:21

Umm... you're way off, because SSDs don't spin at all. Hence the name "Solid-State Drive".

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Re: SSD vs sata etc [message #359207 is a reply to message #359025]

Thu, 20 November 2008 23:14

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renalpha wrote on Wed, 19 November 2008 13:45

Well i got an SSD mtron 3000 in my laptop.

I must say its quick.
Originally 150 times faster.

Anyone got the same experience?
SSD r0x

Do they have solid state hardrive for laptops?. I wonder if they are heavier than the ordinary ones it.

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Re: SSD vs sata etc [message #359220 is a reply to message #359025]

Fri, 21 November 2008 02:10

Speedy059
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You silly n00bs and your SCSI's and SSD's...pfff. Big Grin

Time to get out of the stone age and get one of these puppies:

http://fusionio.com/Products.aspx <-- It's like having 1000 SCSI hard drives in your hand In Love

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Fri, 21 November 2008 10:41

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Speedy059 wrote on Fri, 21 November 2008 03:10

You silly n00bs and your SCSI's and SSD's...pfff. Big Grin

Time to get out of the stone age and get one of these puppies:

http://fusionio.com/Products.aspx <-- It's like having 1000 SCSI hard drives in your hand In Love

That is solid-state.

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Re: SSD vs sata etc [message #359277 is a reply to message #359025]

Fri, 21 November 2008 11:19

renalpha
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ssd is indeed a drive which is faster then a normal ide drive.

It is very good for laptops since it hardly uses battery.
Although it is very expensive (paid 523euro).

Their weight is nothing compared a normal disk.

Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 18 February 2011 23:50

I figured some people will still go LOLOLOL STARVING CATS LOOOOLZ UR A FAG or some dumb shit like that. Thanks for not disappointing! Smile

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Fri, 21 November 2008 11:32

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They're a very good idea for laptops if you move around a lot and have reason to expect that it may be handled roughly, but otherwise you're just throwing away a fuckton of money. Perhaps when the technology matures and gets significantly less expensive it'll be more practical as an upgrade.

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Re: SSD vs sata etc [message #359289 is a reply to message #359025]

Fri, 21 November 2008 12:43

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Wait a year for another price drop, they dropped to around 350 USD from 1000 USD a year ago.

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Fri, 21 November 2008 16:02

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Speedy059 wrote on Fri, 21 November 2008 03:10

You silly n00bs and your SCSI's and SSD's...pfff. Big Grin

Time to get out of the stone age and get one of these puppies:

http://fusionio.com/Products.aspx <-- It's like having 1000 SCSI hard drives in your hand In Love

Just called yourself a noob... those are SSDs. Tell Me

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Re: SSD vs sata etc [message #359342 is a reply to message #359025]

Fri, 21 November 2008 22:46

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Spin == consuming full power. SSDs do use less power, but it's a constant drain as opposed to hard drives which use full power during spin, but when not spinning use very little.

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Re: SSD vs sata etc [message #359351 is a reply to message #359025]

Sat, 22 November 2008 01:01

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So its like a hard drive card?

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Re: SSD vs sata etc [message #359354 is a reply to message #359025]

Sat, 22 November 2008 01:34

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My mother has an 4GB SSD in her EEEPC which I installed XP on. It loads faster then any desktop I have and the boot time was 1/2 bars. Reading times of SSD are great, hence why they are used primary as boot disks right now. More files and database apps are not really that faster yet. It's just waiting for better SSD. And also Intel has one of the fastest for consumer I think.
My next Laptop will include and SSD though.

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Sat, 22 November 2008 03:35

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The main downsides to SSD's at the moment are the higher price and lower number of write/erase cycles before they fail, slower writing time (depends on model, but generally slower than an equivilent HDD) and lower capacity.

On the up side, they are a lot faster than HDDs for random reads, have no moving mechanical parts which may fail and make no noise when in use.

Personally, I will be sticking with HDDs for the forseeable future, but once SSDs start to mature I will certainly consider them, probably initially in an SSD / HDD combination where the SSD contains the OS and application installations (for fast loading) and the HDD contains the pagefile, documents, media, project files etc etc.

Oh, and a word of advice to anyone using an SSD: Disable the pagefile, or move it to a HDD instead. The pagefile is constantly written and modified while Windows is running and this causes your finite number of write/erase cycles on your SSD to be used up much faster than normal.

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Re: SSD vs sata etc [message #359436 is a reply to message #359025]

Sat, 22 November 2008 22:07

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no money so sata 2.0 all the way

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Re: SSD vs sata etc [message #359461 is a reply to message #359358]

Sun, 23 November 2008 03:44

JPNOD
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danpaul88 wrote on Sat, 22 November 2008 05:35

The main downsides to SSD's at the moment are the higher price and lower number of write/erase cycles before they fail, slower writing time (depends on model, but generally slower than an equivilent HDD) and lower capacity.

On the up side, they are a lot faster than HDDs for random reads, have no moving mechanical parts which may fail and make no noise when in use.

Personally, I will be sticking with HDDs for the forseeable future, but once SSDs start to mature I will certainly consider them, probably initially in an SSD / HDD combination where the SSD contains the OS and application installations (for fast loading) and the HDD contains the pagefile, documents, media, project files etc etc.

Oh, and a word of advice to anyone using an SSD: Disable the pagefile, or move it to a HDD instead. The pagefile is constantly written and modified while Windows is running and this causes your finite number of write/erase cycles on your SSD to be used up much faster than normal.

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