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McCain picks his vp. [message #348647] Fri, 29 August 2008 16:25 Go to next message
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http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=WKByFPy7-RU

I've linked you to the newscoverage of Sarah Palin's acceptance speech of becoming VP. It is 26 min long. This woman is the perfect person for vp. First, it takes away woman voters from the democrats. Second, she is the feminist that can work with pretty much all feminists except the radical leftists. She works, is pro life, and unlike Obama, actually has experiance leading people. She is the perfect VP candidate for reaching across he aisle for Democrats and Republicans.


Re: McCain picks his vp. [message #348648 is a reply to message #348647] Fri, 29 August 2008 16:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lol this means McCain can't use his "inexperience" rhetoric against Obama. I think McCain cares more about winning this election than for the future of the country lol.

A VP is suppose to be fit for role of President if something happes to the PResident. MAN, I would rather have Hillary be PResident than this unknown Palin lady....just imagine her being President.

I think this VP pick has a chance to backfire.

I can't wait for the VP debates where Biden will own Palin roflmao

Muad, she is also pro-life...so women who are unsure about abortion or who believe that they should have a choice in their babies won't really like her.

note; I am not for Obama or McCain...I am more liberatarian but just my 2cents I think. Obama seems to think everyone will cooperate to his plan lol he will have many enemies if he wins and he would find it very hard to accoplish things hes promising now.


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Re: McCain picks his vp. [message #348649 is a reply to message #348647] Fri, 29 August 2008 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't like her. And Pro-life restricts rights.
Re: McCain picks his vp. [message #348653 is a reply to message #348649] Fri, 29 August 2008 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 29 August 2008 20:07

I don't like her. And Pro-life restricts rights.

Restricts whose rights? The woman's? What about the child's?


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Re: McCain picks his vp. [message #348654 is a reply to message #348653] Fri, 29 August 2008 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cheesesoda wrote on Fri, 29 August 2008 20:45

R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 29 August 2008 20:07

I don't like her. And Pro-life restricts rights.

Restricts whose rights? The woman's? What about the child's?


Sadly Cheesesoda, a lot of people consider a baby in utero nothing more than a parasite with no fundamental human rights.


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Re: McCain picks his vp. [message #348655 is a reply to message #348654] Fri, 29 August 2008 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GoArmy44 wrote on Fri, 29 August 2008 20:52

cheesesoda wrote on Fri, 29 August 2008 20:45

R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 29 August 2008 20:07

I don't like her. And Pro-life restricts rights.

Restricts whose rights? The woman's? What about the child's?


Sadly Cheesesoda, a lot of people consider a baby in utero nothing more than a parasite with no fundamental human rights.

Oh, I know. I posted a pro-life image on a liberal site (deviantART), I know the opinions of many.


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Re: McCain picks his vp. [message #348656 is a reply to message #348647] Fri, 29 August 2008 18:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry, I should rephrase what I said. Pro-life restricts more rights than pro-choice. Pro-life restricts the woman's rights because the child's rights would be restricted either way.

I did a debate in my government class about abortion, my side was pro-choice. I had an argument that I was trying to remember with what I stated above.. but I just don't remember what I was going to say. It had something to do with age restrictions on various things... but I just can't remember it. :\

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Re: McCain picks his vp. [message #348658 is a reply to message #348647] Fri, 29 August 2008 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't see how it's any different from the interaction between adults. We can't go killing anybody we want because they make our lives inconvenient, especially if we're to blame for their presence. This principle is just extended to unborn children because they're human that should be given the right to life.

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Re: McCain picks his vp. [message #348667 is a reply to message #348647] Fri, 29 August 2008 23:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lol whatever apply your moral and religious values elsewhere than law

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Re: McCain picks his vp. [message #348676 is a reply to message #348647] Sat, 30 August 2008 04:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Okay then, lets get rid of all our laws as they are all based in moral and religous values. Who knows, we might become like the innercity in 30 years.

Biden will not "own" her in VP debates. The guy has been wrong for 30 years. I don't count that as experiance. He's a liar, and an idiot. Palin has some number of years, I can't remeber how many, as mayor of a town and then 2 years as governor of Alaska. That is not inexperiance. What Obama has is inexpericance. He's a street agitator with 143 days in congress. Thats nowhere near then amount of experiance that Sarah Palin has in office and leading people. He's never done that, and neither has Biden. So in a more ways than one, she has more experiance in what is needed to run the country than both Biden and Obama.


Re: McCain picks his vp. [message #348685 is a reply to message #348676] Sat, 30 August 2008 06:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One of the things that pisses me off about Obama is that he seems to be slightly socialistic and more in favor of giving entitlements to people making them lazy.

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Re: McCain picks his vp. [message #348688 is a reply to message #348667] Sat, 30 August 2008 06:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rocko wrote on Sat, 30 August 2008 02:19

lol whatever apply your moral and religious values elsewhere than law

What moral or religious value did I apply to abortion? Do you not agree that people shouldn't be allowed to kill each other because they're an inconvenience?


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Re: McCain picks his vp. [message #348705 is a reply to message #348647] Sat, 30 August 2008 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think she's an awesome choice. She will definitely appeal to the moms who were gung-ho about Hilary. Men too, will go for her, because she's pretty hot, she doesn't wear pant-suits, and because she is a traditional mother who doesn't have a vagina filled with teeth.

Frankly, I was hoping for someone like Mitt Romney, or Bobby Jindal, but she makes the race much more interesting. McCain does get rid of the 'experience, or lack' argument by doing this, but judging by Obama's success, it seems 'experience' may not be a very high priority for voters.

She's also earned a reputation for going after a lot of 'pork-barreling' projects, and people within her own party. I think she'll have what it takes to face off with Joe Biden, a man who I also have great respect for.

Honestly, I'd have to say that this election shows the world what America is like when it's at its best, and Americans should be proud.


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Re: McCain picks his vp. [message #348745 is a reply to message #348688] Sat, 30 August 2008 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cheesesoda wrote on Sat, 30 August 2008 08:54

Rocko wrote on Sat, 30 August 2008 02:19

lol whatever apply your moral and religious values elsewhere than law

What moral or religious value did I apply to abortion? Do you not agree that people shouldn't be allowed to kill each other because they're an inconvenience?

okay you believe that a tiny blob of cells is a human being but I don't, and obviously it some way your views on the issue are going to be affected by your conservative christian values.


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Re: McCain picks his vp. [message #348747 is a reply to message #348647] Sat, 30 August 2008 18:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think darkies like you aren't human beings, but that doesn't mean my opinion is right... If you can see how stupid and arrogant that sounds, then you might want to step back and look inside yourself for a while.

I'm far from Christian conservative, but my fiancee and I didn't have an abortion. We came up to the point of doing it, waited right before she had to go in for the procedure and walked away. We knew it wasn't right. You might choose to kill that child if you were in my position. I didn't, and I don't feel anyone should have the choice to kill like that. The fact that we could have walked into a clinic and ended my daughter's life in a few moments is very real in my mind. That she walks around and is happy and healthy becuase we didn't go through with the procedure makes it look like attempted murder.
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Believe what you want, but "a little blob of cells" is scientifically proven to be human. A Human being is defined by an entity that is composed of its own cells and DNA structure that dictate a human. And since the DNA structure of an unborn baby is different than that of the mother's, it is a human being.

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Rocko wrote on Sat, 30 August 2008 20:50

cheesesoda wrote on Sat, 30 August 2008 08:54

Rocko wrote on Sat, 30 August 2008 02:19

lol whatever apply your moral and religious values elsewhere than law

What moral or religious value did I apply to abortion? Do you not agree that people shouldn't be allowed to kill each other because they're an inconvenience?

okay you believe that a tiny blob of cells is a human being but I don't, and obviously it some way your views on the issue are going to be affected by your conservative christian values.

We were all a "blob of cells" at one point. In some ways, I don't feel that you progressed much from that point, either.

If I view the cells as human, then I can't be a libertarian and NOT be pro-life.


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Re: McCain picks his vp. [message #348753 is a reply to message #348747] Sat, 30 August 2008 21:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 30 August 2008 20:27

I think darkies like you aren't human beings, but that doesn't mean my opinion is right... If you can see how stupid and arrogant that sounds, then you might want to step back and look inside yourself for a while.

I'm far from Christian conservative, but my fiancee and I didn't have an abortion. We came up to the point of doing it, waited right before she had to go in for the procedure and walked away. We knew it wasn't right. You might choose to kill that child if you were in my position. I didn't, and I don't feel anyone should have the choice to kill like that. The fact that we could have walked into a clinic and ended my daughter's life in a few moments is very real in my mind. That she walks around and is happy and healthy becuase we didn't go through with the procedure makes it look like attempted murder.

okay if you dont like black people thats not my problem.

Anyways, besides the scientific definition, I don't believe the Supreme Court or law has ever set in stone when an embryo is legally a human being. Also it's not like I want everyone to have an abortion lol. Just that the government should not be involved in the matter and allow people to decide for themselves.

And since you're christian why does it matter? if the fetus/baby is killed right away won't it go straight to heaven anyways? lol


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You're fucking stupid. Re-read what I wrote, I said that.. You know what, it won't matter anyway because you didn't understand a damn thing.
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I'd just like to throw in here that I'm pretty lucky to be here. While my mom was pregnant with me the doctor performed a test which came back stating I would likely be born with a rare debilitating disease and wouldn't live very long. He suggested she get an abortion and left it up to her. Turns out it was completely erroneous. I was born just fine. However I came very close to due to that mistake. Mind you this isn't totally relavent as if abortion was made completely illegal, there may still be allowances for medical reasons. This may have fallen into that catagory. Still something to think about, and something unsettling... Think of how many babies were never born due to that test giving incorrect results. They stopped administering it a few years after I was born for that very reason. I dunno I think it's kind of unsettling.

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I only think abortions should be allowed in cases in which the the pregnancy was imposed and not expected. I don't mean not expected as "I forgot to take birth control" (If that's the reason, then they shouldn't allow it) I mean in a situation like rape or something similar.

Also in the case of putting the woman's life at risk.
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I watched the DNC to watch history in the making. I'll be watching the RNC for the hot women!!

Sarah Palin
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McCain's Daughter, Meghan
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I mean seriously, that's way better than the 'kumbaya'-singing, lesbian granola chicks the Democrats bring in.


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lol.

Actually, Sarah Palin does have experiance. She was Alaska's governor for 2 years. Unlike Congress, that is a full time job. She has much more experiance than Obama in my book. And yes, I thought of that my self, even though Rush Limbaugh said it first.


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That picture of Sarah Palin makes her look absolutely amazing. She looks a little more aged in others...

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Shit, McCain's wife and his daughter are very hawt.

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