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Re: Fixing... Points? [message #347831 is a reply to message #347710] Thu, 21 August 2008 19:05 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Crimson wrote on Thu, 21 August 2008 05:52


I'm not trying to distract you with a proverbial "shiny ball". I just think it's very counterproductive to bash on a team that is doing work that none of you could have ever hoped to accomplish, who is trying to make Renegade the game it always should have been, without asking for a dime in return. I'm pretty disgusted in fact.


No one is "bashing" the people creating the fix. What we're bashing is the notion that these people will possibly have the power to determine what every C&C Renengade player gets to see and do when they play.

You are no longer creating an "add on".. No one is "modding" the game for a particular server, or for a particular reason. You have elevated yourselves to the position of God, and are attempting to push out a controversial patch that every single player that still plays renegade will be forced to download when they log on to Xwis.

You want to make Renbot, corepatch, renguard.. someone else wants to make Biatch, ssaow, niteserver etc.. Everyone has always been able to decide how they wanted to tweak their server, and use their own inginuity to create a community that players with similar desires could join. This is all fine and wonderful.. if we want to download it, great, if we like the 1.037 version, that's fine too..

If you want to make anti cheat stuff, yippee; if you want to make it so you don't blue screen when you get in an APC, horray; the community is behind you 1000%. But, what if you wanted to make mammoths do 1.5x damage, just cause a "balance coordinator" decided that a 1500 credit investement should? Uh... no one asked you to, and we don't want it that way.. why is it so hard for YOU GUYS to understand that from our point of view? Then for you to fill us with this warm and fuzzy notion that you're just forcing "bug fixes" on us.. and then make a vote on whether you you're going to fix one of the largest and most exploited bugs in the game? the outside PT's?

Either you're on a moral path to fix bugs, or your on a selfish path to fix what you want, you can't have it both ways. And when you attempt to have it both ways, it just validates our opinions that you aren't really just trying to fix what Westwood left out, only trying to edit the game to the way 12 people want it.

If you want to make Core Patch 3 that is pushed out through renguard to only the people that actually bother to download it; you have my full support. But if you're going to force me to download this if I ever want to play again... well, then I think you need to be a little less biased about what you're going to "fix" and actually listen to the people who's games you are "fixing". None of us voted you God... and if you didn't exist, sure, we'd still have to deal with cheaters, but we'd get along just fine... we have been for 4 years. so don't try and use that as a sympathetic way to whine about how much you are doing for us all, for free..
 
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