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| Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #346715 is a reply to message #346646] |
Thu, 14 August 2008 11:40   |
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http://24.239.220.58/smak/ubb/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=33;t=010895
nobody from clanwars.cc supports leaving this glitch
except nunega, whos been there like 2 months
This is stupid, why are you letting a community of players that honestly don't know how to play renegade all that well decide this?
EVERYONE at clanwars.cc knows about this glitch, it is used in every clanwar, ALL the time.
EVERYONE there wants it gone, the only reason people here like it is that they play public servers.. and have a huge advantage over the other noobs in public serverss because they dont even know all the outside PT spots.
Shouldn't be decided by the public, majority doesn't know what they're talking about
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| Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #346726 is a reply to message #346718] |
Thu, 14 August 2008 13:40 |
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No?
there shouldnt even be a vote, this is a patch to fix glitches..
the most OBVIOUS glitches in renegade are..
bluescreen, Pt on outside of buildings bug, Glass shooting (which was fixed in renguard( nobody uses it anymore), deadzones on tanks, pistol scope.
if you're going to make a patch fix all the obviuos glitches not just the ones you can't use to your advantage
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| Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #346727 is a reply to message #346646] |
Thu, 14 August 2008 13:41 |
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Actually, I just realised when playing last night, how much of an advantage being able to do it is. I think it should be fixed, because I also realised last night (whilst being Nod) that SBH + Nuke = fail, and that then lowers Nod's stealth strategy options, paving the way to a GDI armour steamroll. 
Fix it.
Renguard is a wonderful initiative
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| Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #346736 is a reply to message #346715] |
Thu, 14 August 2008 14:19 |
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| karmai wrote on Thu, 14 August 2008 20:40 |
This is stupid, why are you letting a community of players that honestly don't know how to play renegade all that well decide this?
Shouldn't be decided by the public, majority doesn't know what they're talking about
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I can agree with you there, to a certain degree.
The reason why this poll is open to the public is because
TT needs the support of the ren comunity (or atleast the
mayority). That was explicitly stated by EA.
(correct me if i'm wrong  )
As to my vote i can say the following:
imo the arguments for not having the outer pt acces removed are
ridiculous. (you can prolly gues what i voted)
If EA got their act straight from the beginning the bug wouldn't
even have been there, or atleast not for long.
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| Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #346745 is a reply to message #346646] |
Thu, 14 August 2008 15:12 |
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wow.. this isnt hurting current gameplay ops..
how can you guys not see how unfair this shit is?
if anything its going to IMPROVE gameplay, change the way alot of maps are played.. and just make this game more interesting/better all together.
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| Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #346747 is a reply to message #346746] |
Thu, 14 August 2008 16:00 |
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| Stewie wrote on Fri, 15 August 2008 00:18 |
It's not unfair, both teams can do it and both really have an equal advantage/disadvantage for using it. The unfair thing to do is fix it, because it removes the equality of those advantages.
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And fixing it brings back the same equality as before it was being used/exploited.
It's a bug, bugs get fixed. It's unwise to rely on the existence bugs, because then you get situations like this.
Part of what makes ren so entertaining are the strategic posibilities. (and the c&c aspect ofcours, but that's aside here)
If I didn't know about this bug, and join a game with someone on the opposing teeam who does know this bug and how to exploit it
he get's a certain advantage over me that wasn't intended by the game creators.
I strongly believe that fixing this bug will cause a great deal of people to revise thier stategy for the better, and that will make the game more interresting/competing,
whereas some games nowadays are over too quickly due to balance issues to the gameplay (partly because of this bug)
Think about this, try to grasp the concept of a bug and try to see my point here.
*put's away the soapbox
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| Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #346755 is a reply to message #346646] |
Thu, 14 August 2008 17:18 |
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Someone please justify how it is fair that a new player join, does not know about these exploits, but yet, everyone else is using them? That seems at most unfair. This leading to it being unfair while it is unfixed.
It being fixed is fair all the way across the board, all new players, all the experienced are equal now for using this method. Maybe the new people see another healing in the middle of nowhere (side of building) and say this is bs, then drop the game cause 'everyone is cheating'.
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| Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #346796 is a reply to message #346646] |
Fri, 15 August 2008 05:56 |
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I refused to use this bug for a long time although I knew it simply because its bug abuse. But I couldn't convince my clan m8s not to use it 
I started using it about 1 year ago but I could perfectly live with not using it anymore.
I say go for the fix. Its a bug and we should get rid of as many bugs as possible. Further I don't see any unbalancing when this is fixed.
w w w. T h e K O S s 2. o r g
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| Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #346809 is a reply to message #346646] |
Fri, 15 August 2008 08:14 |
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i was playing a 1v1 yesterday field, nukes are impossible to stop on that just fyi.
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| Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #346812 is a reply to message #346646] |
Fri, 15 August 2008 08:39 |
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in a 1v1.. yea i would agreea nuke is hard to stop..
thats why if they take the time to nuke your barracks/ref you should be rushing their base and killing the ob.. not falling back trying to defend it
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| Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #346819 is a reply to message #346812] |
Fri, 15 August 2008 09:26 |
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| karmai wrote on Fri, 15 August 2008 10:39 |
in a 1v1.. yea i would agreea nuke is hard to stop..
thats why if they take the time to nuke your barracks/ref you should be rushing their base and killing the ob.. not falling back trying to defend it
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i was the one nuking...but still i killed his wf already so i guess i deserved to win.
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| Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #346846 is a reply to message #346646] |
Fri, 15 August 2008 12:55 |
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I think it should be fix, its a glitch and needs it its not our fault people learned to play using this glitch i mean you might as well let them hack or glitch kill...yes it will change game play a little bit make it harder but thats the way it should be game play will change for BOTH teams so do say it will ruin ur team work etc etc fix it....if you guys really wanna keep it you can do it server side easily but you CANT fix it serverside only people who really want this to stay are hackers and clans cause clans are the only group of people who play the game the same way every single map (same strategies same gameplay etc)while marathons and etc do what ever they want where outside pt really is not needed you know how sick i am of people refilling outside....and heres another thing every single clan member or clan loves the glitches...they want wall hope, outside pt, glitch kill,wall hug...every clan member iv talked to want all the glitches they use to win the game...the list goes on so of course they want outside pt to be there but they want most glitches to be there well to bad its a glitch and anyone with real skill should get it fixed if they want outside pt..set up a old school ren clan channel without the update or do it serverside if possible....
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