Re: Would you make a Trip to Chernoyl? [message #334281 is a reply to message #334044] |
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NukeIt15
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If something gets under my skin, I'm gonna post about it. I'm gonna not only post about it, I'm gonna speak my mind- all of it, until I'm satisfied that I've said everything I have to say on the subject. It just so happens that 'what I had to say on the subject' consisted of more than just a yes or no answer. Too fucking bad; I don't like giving simple answers. Unlike most of the world, I'd rather give a reason for my answers- and I like to do so in detail.
If the post is too long for you, don't read it. If the words are too big for you, don't read it. If you don't agree with me, well, that's your choice, but 'stfu' is not a reply that's going to get your point across- that's not an argument, it's a placeholder; something you say when you don't have anything to say. All it will do is make me laugh a bit and tell you what you're doing wrong. I will do that not because I honestly believe you'll listen, but because I find it funny that I managed to piss somebody off by speaking my mind. If I'm getting under your skin, use the damned ignore feature- that's why it's there. It's better than posting the equivalent of "you're a big poopyhead."
Anyway, there was a topic buried here somewhere. Some general information might be useful:
Wikipedia
World Nuclear Association
World Health Organization
Information is always helpful because the hows and whys of the event often get lost behind the "OMG meltdown!" factor. Most folks don't know the difference between the various types of nuclear reactor, and even fewer realize that there actually are different types of nuclear reactor. Lots of folks assume that the exact same set of conditions that led to Chernobyl could occur at any nuclear power plant, hence the general squeamishness regarding nuclear power. Yes, any reactor can melt down, but a repeat of Chernobyl is vanishingly unlikely even among power plants using the same type of reactor.
Incidentally, for the sake of historical accuracy, the plant itself was the V.I. Lenin Nuclear Power Plant, not Chernobyl. Oh, and in case anybody's wondering... yes, they've made a movie of it. Probably more than one, but that was the first one that came up and I didn't feel like digging any deeper.
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Re: Would you make a Trip to Chernoyl? [message #334363 is a reply to message #334065] |
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Doitle
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 08 June 2008 12:53 |
Doitle wrote on Sun, 08 June 2008 19:42 | I would definately go. Also tours of Chernobyl have been allowed for many years. This is nothing new. The amount of radiation you receive is slightly above the normal dosage any human receives on Earth. For this reason it is recomended that you minimize any medical procedures that use radiation such as X-rays, CAT scans and MRIs.
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CAT or MRI (not sure which, maybe both) use magnetic fields, and those are as currently known not dangerous for (human)life.
X-rays are indeed rather dangerous, as that is so called Gamma radiation, which will go through about anything, presuming it has enough energy.
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You typically get 4-20 times as much radiation from a CT Scan as you do from a standard X-ray.
Also when you claim that the MRI uses magnetic fields and so it does not emit radiation that is a falsehood. This is incorrect. MRI has everything to do with EM radiation. MRI relies on detecting radio waves emitted from protons as they move and try to realign themselves inside your body. The magnet is only used to initially shift the protons in one way or another. Radio waves at the resonant frequency of the protons are used to push the proton spins out of alignment with the main magnetic field. When the RF pulse is turned off, the proton spins gradually realign with the main magnetic field, and emit radio waves in the process. These radio waves are detected and used to form the image.
Microwaves, Radio waves, Visible Light, Cosmic Rays, they are all radiation. So you can't say that there is no radiation involved in an MRI.
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Re: Would you make a Trip to Chernoyl? [message #334367 is a reply to message #334044] |
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nikki6ixx
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I'm curious how much radiation is zapped through us by wireless routers. They could probably worse for us than Three Mile Island or Chernobyl.
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