| Poly Amount [message #326757] |
Fri, 18 April 2008 21:52  |
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Gen_Blacky
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Ok I have two questions whats the recommend amount of polys for a map and whats the max.
Is there a way to reduce the amount of poyls in a object without loosing its shape ?
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| Re: Poly Amount [message #326773 is a reply to message #326757] |
Sat, 19 April 2008 01:11  |
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the recommend? well, I thought WW maps are 20,000, but as also for max, well there is max amount you can use en LE but I don't know that.
How much can the renegade player's computer handle these days?
and try optimize, if you de it well, it should get you a nice result
Moding can be real Fun...
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| Re: Poly Amount [message #326832 is a reply to message #326757] |
Sat, 19 April 2008 12:46 |
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It's not the maximum, but it's whats recomended. OWA sent me this list a few days ago-
Characters: 4000
Vehicles: 3000 - 5000
Buildings Exterior: 5000
Buildings Interior: 5000
Static objects/map objects: 2000 max
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| Re: Poly Amount [message #326868 is a reply to message #326757] |
Sat, 19 April 2008 20:09 |
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The renegade engine (W3d engine) can handle more polygons than the Unreal3 (hundreds of thousands) engine, but unfortunately can't handle them with any sort of texturing. Also note that when textures are applied the lighting also gets more complex, another let-down of the engine.
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| Re: Poly Amount [message #326969 is a reply to message #326907] |
Sun, 20 April 2008 14:33 |
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You can have 65535 vertices per-mesh at the most (technical limit, models are indexed data, the indices are 16 bit integers)
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| Re: Poly Amount [message #327037 is a reply to message #327036] |
Mon, 21 April 2008 07:46 |
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[quote title=Jerad2142 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 08:44]Renx wrote on Sat, 19 April 2008 23:30130k poly model, one of the most detailed ever made for Renegade
http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=71591&rid=735
Funniest thing I have read all day.
Saberhawk wrote on Sun, 20 April 2008 15:33You can have 65535 vertices per-mesh at the most (technical limit, models are indexed data, the indices are 16 bit integers)
Basically if you took a plane and gave it 65535 vertices and exported it, it would work. If you gave it 65536 it would crash the game, but it you broke it in half, into TWO meshes and then exported it would work again.
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| Re: Poly Amount [message #327195 is a reply to message #327037] |
Mon, 21 April 2008 23:43 |
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[quote title=Jerad2142 wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 16:46]Jerad wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 08:44Renx wrote on Sat, 19 April 2008 23:30130k poly model, one of the most detailed ever made for Renegade
http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=71591&rid=735
Funniest thing I have read all day.
Saberhawk wrote on Sun, 20 April 2008 15:33You can have 65535 vertices per-mesh at the most (technical limit, models are indexed data, the indices are 16 bit integers)
Basically if you took a plane and gave it 65535 vertices and exported it, it would work. If you gave it 65536 it would crash the game, but it you broke it in half, into TWO meshes and then exported it would work again.
You wouldn't be able to export 65536 vertices. Best case, it references vertex 0 instead of 65536, worst case it crashes the exporter.
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| Re: Poly Amount [message #327497 is a reply to message #327437] |
Wed, 23 April 2008 15:30 |
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Blazea58 u use renx for making models for rp2 ? it might be easier to use 3ds max 8 i recommand gettign that
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| Re: Poly Amount [message #327513 is a reply to message #327509] |
Wed, 23 April 2008 16:13 |
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| Canadacdn wrote on Wed, 23 April 2008 18:04 |
| Blazea58 wrote on Tue, 22 April 2008 02:59 |
I think the limit on alpha blended meshes is somewhere around only 5000 polygons also, so getting something on a large scale that has alot of blending is a huge task. Roleplay 2 of course i split all blended meshes to below 5k, the rest of it is just seperated enough that it wont lag most people.
(lol u kno the picture)Thats the rp2 in current state and thats excluding everything added from level edit. Our current tests run at great fps.
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I'm actually impressed at how well RP2 runs on the W3D engine. Usually anywhere on the map you are rendering 50,000+ polygons in the regular draw distance, plus dozens of high-resolution textures.
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i agree with u, it does not really matter if they make high graphic textures , they should make them like renegade does
it is related to renegade engine isnt it ?
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it was untextured, that's why it didnt crash the game i guess.
