| issues with my 8800GT nvidia card [message #327492] |
Wed, 23 April 2008 14:44  |
Romaner
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here are my specs
sonata mrk 3 case,
EVGA 512-P3-N802-AR GEFORCE 8800GT 512MBDDR3 SUPERCLOCKED
850w psu, by antec.
5200x2 amd, @ stock speeds.
2x2gb kingston ram @800mhz.
m2n32-sli deluxe/wifi edition asus mobo.
now the problem is that i can play any non graphycally demanding game for hours, use any applications just fine, dont even need to increase the fan speed from the factory settings of 29%.
once i do start playing games that demand more off the GPU i turn the fan up to 90% and make sure the temps dont go over 60C which im told for video cards is pretty low.
so once i turn on the fan and go to play a game like hellgate london, or guitar hero or crysis. it works for a while anywhere from 30 mins to a couple of hours, and then it freezes the screen.
like for a few seconds i can see a picture of whatever was displayed before (kindof like a really badly taken screenshot) with some discolored pixels in there.
then screen goes black, blue screen of death comes on. with a report saying somethine like; "your system has recovered from serious error" or crash cant remember. then it says something along the lines of "dumping bad memory".
then screen goes completely black untill i hit reset button.
i downloaded the latest available forceware drivers, and now im really out of ideas.
i dont know if bios has anything to do with this or if this is a faulty card.
another random issue i noticed is that it sometimes has fps drops... like in crysis for example. everything is running nice and smooth then all of the sudden its as if i got 10fps or some really low number of frames.
i originally though it was my ram that it was referring to, so i changed the ram to other sticks and it didnt make any difference
any help is appreciated.
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| Re: issues with my 8800GT nvidia card [message #327495 is a reply to message #327492] |
Wed, 23 April 2008 15:16  |
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Aha reason for blaming nvidia
i dotn think u could get alot of help here
i recommand going here it will help alot
i'm really sorry that that is happening to u
my desktop video card is being a bitch too
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| Re: issues with my 8800GT nvidia card [message #327599 is a reply to message #327492] |
Thu, 24 April 2008 05:16 |
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I had a similar situation with my 8600GTS ... (Screen freezes or I get the BSOD, on XP and Vista).. It came down to ordering a new motherboard. My new board, the one now, is XFX Nforce 650I Ultra Conroe and no issues with it on XP and Vista.
I think it also had to do with nVidia drivers, that's where the .dmp files were pointing to. Tried all kinds, but none fixed it (before).
Edit: The old board was not a nVidia chipset either. I believe it was AsRock who made it... (hybrid board)
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| Re: issues with my 8800GT nvidia card [message #327607 is a reply to message #327492] |
Thu, 24 April 2008 08:11 |
Romaner
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it was freezing with xp and now with vista. my motherboard is nvidia chipset, and so is the vid card.
someone on the nvidia forums suggested that i should underclock it, since it was factory superclocked. i did clock it down from 650/950 to 617/919 and i got to play for over an hour with no problems, and the GPU teps didnt not exceed 65C.
i think what im going to do tonight is clock it back up to factory settings, then play guitar hero since that was the game it crashed the most on.
then i will write down the error number or full description basically some more info.
then i will try it again with underclocking the card and see what happens. as of last time i tried it would not let me play more than 3 songs without crashing so should be easy.
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| Re: issues with my 8800GT nvidia card [message #327650 is a reply to message #327607] |
Thu, 24 April 2008 11:18 |
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| Romaner wrote on Thu, 24 April 2008 16:11 |
it was freezing with xp and now with vista. my motherboard is nvidia chipset, and so is the vid card.
someone on the nvidia forums suggested that i should underclock it, since it was factory superclocked. i did clock it down from 650/950 to 617/919 and i got to play for over an hour with no problems, and the GPU teps didnt not exceed 65C.
i think what im going to do tonight is clock it back up to factory settings, then play guitar hero since that was the game it crashed the most on.
then i will write down the error number or full description basically some more info.
then i will try it again with underclocking the card and see what happens. as of last time i tried it would not let me play more than 3 songs without crashing so should be easy.
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Sounds like the the inside of your case is getting really hot and your processor is getting to a certain temp and shutting down, Try downloading a program called Speedfan (google) and if your PSU is good enough, boost up the rpm on your fans, mainly the fan that blows air out of your case.
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| Re: issues with my 8800GT nvidia card [message #327657 is a reply to message #327492] |
Thu, 24 April 2008 12:08 |
Romaner
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why would you say its my processor?
my processor is never above 50C i said my GPU, the grapics card is at 65C which is pretty low for it.
and on top of that when i do get the BSOD it says something about bad memory, not temperatures.
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| Re: issues with my 8800GT nvidia card [message #327782 is a reply to message #327492] |
Fri, 25 April 2008 07:22 |
Romaner
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yeah i think this weekend i will take off the side of the case and see if that improves it at all.
but i still doubt its the temperatures. i will update my bios and drivers so that i can rule that out.
for some reason i was playing yesterday for like 2 hours and it didnt crash. which kinda pissed me off since i was intentionally making it crash, by turning up all the settings to max and it still didnt.
and i know that once i give up on trying to figure this out, it will crash again. 
about cleaning my case, it has filter on the intake side so all i got to do is clean those and inside should still be clean.
what i was thinking of doing is buying a more powerful cpu fan, since lets face it 5200x2 isnt all that good anymore, and i will be overclocking it a little bit sometime closer to next year.
thanks for the help. i will check that site out, renohol, thanks
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| Re: issues with my 8800GT nvidia card [message #328110 is a reply to message #327492] |
Mon, 28 April 2008 08:01 |
Romaner
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update,
played some more this weekend and the game crashed 2 different times. in both cases the screen went blank i openned task manager and alt+tabbed out of the game, to see vista message saying "your video driver has stopped responding and has since recovered". the game however was completely crashed and i had to shut it down.
so then i assume its clear as to what the problem is...
or is there anything else that can cause this?
btw my temps at the time, CPU @49C, mobo @48C, GPU @59C
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| Re: issues with my 8800GT nvidia card [message #328149 is a reply to message #327492] |
Mon, 28 April 2008 11:42 |
Romaner
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yep this problem has been haunting me since xp...
i moved to vista thinking it was going to solve it for me, yes i was naive to think that.
i guess im just going to have to wait untill nvidia decides to release new drivers for its 8800 series, however it seems that right now all they care about are the 9800 series i think it is.
also on the nvidia forums lots of people are saying to stay away from ntune, which i currently use. so i think im going to uninstall of the nvidia drivers and ntune, and start over without using ntune. maybe rivatune instead
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| Re: issues with my 8800GT nvidia card [message #328235 is a reply to message #328110] |
Tue, 29 April 2008 06:40 |
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| Romaner wrote on Mon, 28 April 2008 09:01 |
update,
played some more this weekend and the game crashed 2 different times. in both cases the screen went blank i openned task manager and alt+tabbed out of the game, to see vista message saying "your video driver has stopped responding and has since recovered". the game however was completely crashed and i had to shut it down.
so then i assume its clear as to what the problem is...
or is there anything else that can cause this?
btw my temps at the time, CPU @49C, mobo @48C, GPU @59C
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If thi is the case, the card is fine and the drivers are the problem. My parent's PC has Windows Vista and it used to do the same thing (although it had Intel GMA 950 or something like that). The thing is, when video drivers crash in XP, it'll BSOD. In Vista, I think they moved the drivers to the user, so if they crash in Vista, they can just restart, thus the alert after they've recovered. Intel has poor drivers for Vista apparently, becuase his kept doing that when he played his basketball game (not graphically demanding at all). I bought him a cheap Saphire Radeon X1550 256MB (and 2GB, since he had only 1GB for Vista) and apparently ATi's Vista drivers are good, becuase he said his game no longer freezes and his PC is quicker.
Point is, that message means it's the drivers, so while you're stuck with the problem, the card is good. Those temperatures are also within spec.
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| Re: issues with my 8800GT nvidia card [message #328279 is a reply to message #327492] |
Tue, 29 April 2008 11:21 |
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No, I indeed meant Intel. My parent's PC has (had) Intel onboard GMA, and the Vista drivers Intel has for that does the same thing you're saying your nVidia one does. To be honest though, I've heard that BOTH nVidia's and ATi's drivers have gone downhill.
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| Re: issues with my 8800GT nvidia card [message #328326 is a reply to message #327492] |
Tue, 29 April 2008 16:20 |
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Remove one DDR2-DIMM as you can't use 4GB fully when using non-64bit XP or non-64bit Vista. It's useless running a 32bit OS with more than 3GB of Ram. Sell the DIMM on Ebay.
Even though Vista recognizes the 4GB Ram it can't deal with them even if your CPU supports PAE (which of course all modern CPUs do) and you have turned Memory remapping on. XP however is limited to ~3,5GB too and doesn't show up 4GB in the system properties tab.
If you are using the manufacturers videocard driver which came with the videocard, get the driver from Nvidia and vice versa.
Be sure that your M2N has a new or at least stable BIOS. The M2N series are well-known for some bugs/issues. Run a stability test for at least 30 minutes. Get Memtest as an ISO, burn and run it.
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| Re: issues with my 8800GT nvidia card [message #328348 is a reply to message #327492] |
Tue, 29 April 2008 19:03 |
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I have a 512MB GeForce 8500 GT. I had the BSOD problems with XP about 3-5 minutes into any 3D intensive application, but not with Vista. BSOD was always blaming nv4_disp.dll. I installed the card on an already installed Windows installation (Vista was installed after the card was). I since have had to reinstall Windows XP (clean install, all formated drives) for something else unrelated and I can now play any 3D intensive game now for hours on end with no problems. I haven't had to replace any hardware at all. I have a TForce4 U775 motherboard which also has the Nvidia chipsets.
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| Re: issues with my 8800GT nvidia card [message #328396 is a reply to message #327492] |
Wed, 30 April 2008 07:51 |
Romaner
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yeah i see what you mean, this is also on my to do list.
the ideas i have so far that im going to try this weekend are one to remove all previous drivers using driversweeper.
then im going to get the beta forceware drivers and try those, and im going to update my bios somehow.... since right now im not 100% sure on how to do that but im sure there will be someone out there who can help me.
any other suggestions are appreciated.
edit: im also going to remove ntune, and replace it with rivatune and atitool
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