| I know nothing about computers... [message #32518] |
Sat, 19 July 2003 19:12  |
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JiggakoZz
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I can't even install a damn video card...
I just got a new one, a Radeon ATI 9200 and something isn't working right. I'm getting worse FPS with worse quality then my old one, I think it was a nVidia geforce 2 64mb.
My old card was 64mb and my new one has 128mb, so it should at least run as fast right? It was more expensive was all I knew...
Ok, so I knew that something was wrong, so I ran some sorta system check and the results came in as this: http://www.n00bstories.com/image.view.php?id=1333724799
So, I got directx from mircosoft.com, but apparently that wasn't it or something. Then it asked for something else.
And yes, I did try to reinstall. Thank you for anything you can do to help.
"Sex is like math,
Add the bed,
Subtract the clothes,
Divide the legs,
And pray you don't
Multiply."
http://www.ebaumsworld.com
^--go there
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| I know nothing about computers... [message #32550] |
Sat, 19 July 2003 22:31  |
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JiggakoZz
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Sometimes ppl overlook this but...did you completely uninstall the nvidia drivers? You may also need to download detenator destroyer, a program which removes most of the reg settings and other assorted junk the det drivers leave behind. And do make sure to get the new ati drivers, the ones that come with a new card typically arent the newest ones avaliable. If its running slow make sure youve turned ansio/AA filtering off or down that might fix things up especially if you have a slower processor (under 1ghz). Just my thoughts hope they help.
-[Paragon]
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OK this helps, i wast thinking that the cd that came with it would have the newest programs. Okay, http://www.ati.com right? But what about directx 8.1? Where can i get it?
My systems specs are kinda fuzzy cuz im not really sure but i can approximate and get pretty close.
Pentium 4 1.5Ghz
512 ram
uhhh
cable modem? lol
dimension 4300
Thats about it... thanks
"Sex is like math,
Add the bed,
Subtract the clothes,
Divide the legs,
And pray you don't
Multiply."
http://www.ebaumsworld.com
^--go there
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| I know nothing about computers... [message #32551] |
Sat, 19 July 2003 22:34 |
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JiggakoZz
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Oh, and one last thing, about my driver i need...
I went to drivers, selected XP, then what is it?
RADEON Family?
or
RAGE 128?
See i dunno, bc my card is 128....
thanks again
"Sex is like math,
Add the bed,
Subtract the clothes,
Divide the legs,
And pray you don't
Multiply."
http://www.ebaumsworld.com
^--go there
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| I know nothing about computers... [message #32896] |
Mon, 21 July 2003 17:36 |
abakshi
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I just got a new one, a Radeon ATI 9200 and something isn't working right. I'm getting worse FPS with worse quality then my old one, I think it was a nVidia geforce 2 64mb.
My old card was 64mb and my new one has 128mb, so it should at least run as fast right? It was more expensive was all I knew...
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The ATI Radeon 9200 should be quite a bit faster than an nVidia GeForce 2 
Radeon 9200 is about at the level of the Radeon 8500, which puts it at the top-of-the-line GeForce 3 (e.g. Ti500) and the lower side of the higher end GeForce 4s (e.g. Ti4200).
You definitely have some driver issues. First try removing every last spec of nVidia stuff on your system - nVidia and ATI have issues with the remnants of one causing problems in the other (probably kept there for competitive edge - e.g. if you switch to the other one, you'll think it's not as good as the original card's manufacturer so you'll go back)
After you're through with the nVidia Detonators, go through and use Windows Update to get the latest DirectX version and the latest drivers for your hardware and any patches, etc. that you don't have.
Then go to ATI's site (http://www.ati.com) and go to Customer Care -> Find a Driver. Then click Graphic Driver in the menu thing near the bottom of the page then your OS then Radeon Family. Download the latest ATI Catalyst driver, which is at this point Cat version 3.6.
You should have a nicely working system at this point - a major boost as compared to your old nVidia card if you set everything up right.
WOL: mbakshi, Radeon980
http://www.techautos.com
P4 2.8C (800 FSB) / ASUS P4P800 Deluxe / 512MB PC3200 DDR / 80GB Maxtor 7200RPM 8MB / ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB / Lite-On 16x DVD-ROM / Win XP Pro / Dell 1800FP 18" LCD / Enermax Case
P4 2.2 / ASUS P4T533-C / 512MB PC1066 RDRAM / 120GB WD 7200RPM / 45GB IBM 7200RPM / ATI AIW Radeon 8500DV 64MB / Cendyne (Pioneer) DVD-RW / Sony CD-RW / Win XP Pro / Nokia 800Pro+ 18" LCD / Aluminum Case
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| I know nothing about computers... [message #32968] |
Mon, 21 July 2003 22:09 |
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JiggakoZz
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I just got a new one, a Radeon ATI 9200 and something isn't working right. I'm getting worse FPS with worse quality then my old one, I think it was a nVidia geforce 2 64mb.
My old card was 64mb and my new one has 128mb, so it should at least run as fast right? It was more expensive was all I knew...
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The ATI Radeon 9200 should be quite a bit faster than an nVidia GeForce 2
Radeon 9200 is about at the level of the Radeon 8500, which puts it at the top-of-the-line GeForce 3 (e.g. Ti500) and the lower side of the higher end GeForce 4s (e.g. Ti4200).
You definitely have some driver issues. First try removing every last spec of nVidia stuff on your system - nVidia and ATI have issues with the remnants of one causing problems in the other (probably kept there for competitive edge - e.g. if you switch to the other one, you'll think it's not as good as the original card's manufacturer so you'll go back)
After you're through with the nVidia Detonators, go through and use Windows Update to get the latest DirectX version and the latest drivers for your hardware and any patches, etc. that you don't have.
Then go to ATI's site (http://www.ati.com) and go to Customer Care -> Find a Driver. Then click Graphic Driver in the menu thing near the bottom of the page then your OS then Radeon Family. Download the latest ATI Catalyst driver, which is at this point Cat version 3.6.
You should have a nicely working system at this point - a major boost as compared to your old nVidia card if you set everything up right.
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OK, this helps....
Now I've been doing my homework, and i discovered that i have a DirectX 9 (I checked by going to run and typing dxdiag) and I got the latest version at http://www.ati.com.... I think.
You see, I went to drivers, then clicked Graphics then clicked XP then went to Radeon Family...
Then it came up with a one, two three... So i couldnt decide if these were steps, or if these were different things to download, so i just downloaded the first one.... (I couldn't make since of any of them)
And you say there may still be some nVidia on my system? Give them a competitive edge eh? Sounds about right.... 
So if anyone out there can tell me how to fully get nVidia off of my comp I would be thankful.
P.S. After checking that I have DirectX 9, the system compatibility check that ATI sent with it STILL tells me i have something less, and that i dont have the latest driver installed... 
"Sex is like math,
Add the bed,
Subtract the clothes,
Divide the legs,
And pray you don't
Multiply."
http://www.ebaumsworld.com
^--go there
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| Radon [message #33494] |
Wed, 23 July 2003 15:59 |
z310
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And im stuck with a radon 7500 u guys suck lol 
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| I know nothing about computers... [message #36304] |
Mon, 04 August 2003 17:39 |
abakshi
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Sorry - I've been out of the Renegade Forum 'loop' for a few weeks - is your system up and running now?
If not, try to contact tech support. Is your card Built By ATI? If so, call ATI (has to be within 30 days of when you registered with them if you have done so yet). If the card is Powered by ATI, that means the design and components are mostly all from ATI, but the card is physically built by some other company. If yours is the latter case (Powered by ATI), determine who the manufacturer is, then call the manufacturer's tech support line (go online to find that out).
HTH
WOL: mbakshi, Radeon980
http://www.techautos.com
P4 2.8C (800 FSB) / ASUS P4P800 Deluxe / 512MB PC3200 DDR / 80GB Maxtor 7200RPM 8MB / ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB / Lite-On 16x DVD-ROM / Win XP Pro / Dell 1800FP 18" LCD / Enermax Case
P4 2.2 / ASUS P4T533-C / 512MB PC1066 RDRAM / 120GB WD 7200RPM / 45GB IBM 7200RPM / ATI AIW Radeon 8500DV 64MB / Cendyne (Pioneer) DVD-RW / Sony CD-RW / Win XP Pro / Nokia 800Pro+ 18" LCD / Aluminum Case
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| I know nothing about computers... [message #36351] |
Mon, 04 August 2003 20:10 |
Bearxor
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lol, I understand none of this computer talk
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If you don't understand that can tou understand this? "I just finish lapping my HS and put a new coat of Arctic Silver 3 Thermal Compound" 
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What do you consider lapped? I use 300-400-600-800-1200-1500 for a great mirror finish, but I know alot of people stop at 800.
signatures suck
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| Re: I know nothing about computers... [message #36408] |
Tue, 05 August 2003 00:31 |
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kawolsky
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| JiggakoZz |
I can't even install a damn video card...
I just got a new one, a Radeon ATI 9200 and something isn't working right. I'm getting worse FPS with worse quality then my old one, I think it was a nVidia geforce 2 64mb.
My old card was 64mb and my new one has 128mb, so it should at least run as fast right? It was more expensive was all I knew...
Ok, so I knew that something was wrong, so I ran some sorta system check and the results came in as this: http://www.n00bstories.com/image.view.php?id=1333724799
So, I got directx from mircosoft.com, but apparently that wasn't it or something. Then it asked for something else.
And yes, I did try to reinstall. Thank you for anything you can do to help.
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your not the only one...
"It's a question of mind over matter, I don't mind and you don't fu*king matter"
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