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Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument [message #320320 is a reply to message #320198]

Tue, 04 March 2008 07:05

Chimp
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Sniper_De7 wrote on Mon, 03 March 2008 21:33

What's with this "sneakiness" deal? If you're in field, and you're in an arty, and you don't see snipers any more clearer with a ramjet than a 500, you're probably terrible at being in a vehicle. There's only like 3 areas they'll ever be, depending on how far your team is on the field. If you're barraging the war factory with an art, chances are the only place a sniper will be hitting you will be in its own base, or on the waterfall. It takes .5 seconds to check the waterfall (Which, any good person checks regularly). If you're just coming out of your base, it's going to be the bunkers, waterfall, or other team's base entrance. The biggest difference between using a ramjet and not using a ramjet, is that if it's just an engineer in an arty/MRL, a ramjet can actually do enough damage that the person inside the vehicle could just hop out for a few seconds, repair, and try and kill you. With an engineer against a ramjet, you don't always have that luxary unless you can hide behind something. In general, unless a person repairing a vehicle is pretty dumb, they're not going to be standing still eating a bagel. They're going to move around, and even if a 500 sniper misses, it'll show up on their screen they're being fired at and they can just get inside the tank and look. There's really only ever going to be 2-3 spots EVER where a sniper is going to be. Blue streaks isn't really going to make all the more difference. Ramjets are a clear winner against pretty much anything they're good at killing - Infantry, light armoured vehicles. Though if all you're doing is sniping infantry in the tunnel, then you're probably better off money-wise to buy a 500 snipers. You gain the same amount of points/cash per kill and one shot to the head does it, or one more shot then the ramjet. If you've got all the money in the world, then ramjet's still better. Then again, you aren't being very useful, either.

Nobody ever really cares much about the damage a 500 sniper does against vehicles. It's only been said to nerf the ramjet damage - for good reason, i think, being able to kill light armoured vehicles in less than 2 reloads is a really quick way to get it down - faster than a raveshaw/PIC could do it. Oh, and at infinity range.

Anyways, Hi.

You my good sir, are an idiot.

Lets see: Bushes on field with a 500 or a ramjet. Yeah, I'm going to see the freaking blue streak. Maybe you have super-man-vision, but I don't, and if some little sneaky dead eye or black hand sniper is hiding in ONE OF THE HUNDREDS of dark little corners of various maps, chances are that I'm not going to see him. Lets not forget, that in the heat of battle, when people are taking damage over and over, and their techs are being hurt constantly, they don't know WHAT killed them unless you give them a reason to, IE: a long blue streak coming out of the corner of a map. If you honestly don't see the advantage of a 500, you are a complete douche.

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		Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Tue, 26 February 2008 08:15
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Tue, 26 February 2008 08:18
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: bisen11 on Tue, 26 February 2008 12:34
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Starbuzz on Tue, 26 February 2008 13:16
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Lone0001 on Tue, 26 February 2008 15:20
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Spoony on Tue, 26 February 2008 15:57
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Starbuzz on Wed, 27 February 2008 01:30
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Wed, 27 February 2008 01:58
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Spoony on Wed, 27 February 2008 02:06
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Wed, 27 February 2008 02:40
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Starbuzz on Wed, 27 February 2008 02:41
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Dover on Wed, 27 February 2008 02:41
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Wed, 27 February 2008 03:14
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Spoony on Wed, 27 February 2008 05:17
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Wed, 27 February 2008 09:04
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: CarrierII on Wed, 27 February 2008 09:51
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Wed, 27 February 2008 11:21
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Goztow on Wed, 27 February 2008 02:26
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Dover on Wed, 27 February 2008 02:32
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Starbuzz on Wed, 27 February 2008 02:36
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: T0RN on Wed, 27 February 2008 04:07
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: sadukar09 on Wed, 27 February 2008 04:56
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Herr Surth on Wed, 27 February 2008 05:33
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: sadukar09 on Wed, 27 February 2008 05:59
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Herr Surth on Wed, 27 February 2008 06:11
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: kannies on Wed, 27 February 2008 07:00
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Herr Surth on Wed, 27 February 2008 07:07
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: bisen11 on Wed, 27 February 2008 08:33
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: The Executor on Thu, 28 February 2008 10:56
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: sadukar09 on Thu, 28 February 2008 13:20
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Starbuzz on Thu, 28 February 2008 15:11
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Dover on Thu, 28 February 2008 20:11
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Starbuzz on Thu, 28 February 2008 20:33
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: kannies on Thu, 28 February 2008 02:14
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Spoony on Thu, 28 February 2008 06:53
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: kannies on Thu, 28 February 2008 07:22
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: kannies on Wed, 05 March 2008 02:00
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: SSADMVR on Wed, 27 February 2008 08:57
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Wed, 27 February 2008 11:53
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Wed, 27 February 2008 12:15
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Starbuzz on Wed, 27 February 2008 12:36
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Spoony on Wed, 27 February 2008 12:50
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Wed, 27 February 2008 12:51
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Spoony on Wed, 27 February 2008 12:51
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Wed, 27 February 2008 16:01
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Spoony on Wed, 27 February 2008 16:05
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Wed, 27 February 2008 16:21
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Spoony on Wed, 27 February 2008 17:41
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Dover on Wed, 27 February 2008 16:46
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Wed, 27 February 2008 20:20
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: trooprm02 on Wed, 27 February 2008 20:26
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Wed, 27 February 2008 20:48
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Dover on Thu, 28 February 2008 02:01
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Goztow on Thu, 28 February 2008 03:32
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: kannies on Thu, 28 February 2008 06:00
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Goztow on Thu, 28 February 2008 06:27
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Herr Surth on Thu, 28 February 2008 06:02
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Sniper_De7 on Mon, 03 March 2008 14:33
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Tue, 04 March 2008 07:05
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Sniper_De7 on Tue, 04 March 2008 15:35
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Tue, 04 March 2008 16:29
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Herr Surth on Mon, 03 March 2008 14:51
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Starbuzz on Mon, 03 March 2008 15:29
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: kannies on Tue, 04 March 2008 06:35
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Herr Surth on Tue, 04 March 2008 06:50
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Herr Surth on Tue, 04 March 2008 07:21
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: nikki6ixx on Tue, 04 March 2008 11:01
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Tue, 04 March 2008 11:11
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: nikki6ixx on Tue, 04 March 2008 12:34
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Tue, 04 March 2008 13:29
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Sniper_De7 on Wed, 05 March 2008 04:24
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: kannies on Wed, 05 March 2008 06:09
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Herr Surth on Wed, 05 March 2008 06:28
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		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Herr Surth on Wed, 05 March 2008 08:25
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		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Wed, 05 March 2008 09:26
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Herr Surth on Wed, 05 March 2008 09:28
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: kannies on Wed, 05 March 2008 09:58
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Wed, 05 March 2008 10:10
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Herr Surth on Wed, 05 March 2008 10:13
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: kannies on Wed, 05 March 2008 10:30
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Spoony on Wed, 05 March 2008 16:42
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Wed, 05 March 2008 17:13
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Herr Surth on Thu, 06 March 2008 05:54
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: kannies on Thu, 06 March 2008 02:00
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Herr Surth on Wed, 05 March 2008 10:38
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Wed, 05 March 2008 10:43
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Herr Surth on Wed, 05 March 2008 10:48
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Wed, 05 March 2008 11:08
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Herr Surth on Wed, 05 March 2008 11:12
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Wed, 05 March 2008 11:36
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Herr Surth on Wed, 05 March 2008 11:43
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Wed, 05 March 2008 13:20
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Herr Surth on Wed, 05 March 2008 13:30
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Wed, 05 March 2008 16:07
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Sniper_De7 on Wed, 05 March 2008 17:32
		Re: Sniper Rifle vs. Noobjet: The Argument By: Chimp on Wed, 05 March 2008 17:59
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