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| Re: Sbh`s on no-base map and how to get rid of them [message #318561 is a reply to message #318560] |
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| CnC-Junk-E wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 02:42 |
| topcap wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 04:37 |
i never put a c4 near my nuke it gives its positoin away
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How so?..
Its actually helped me 70% of the time, if I fail to kill the engies/techs/hotties then the c4 usually does..
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Your area is silly. There's always a proxy on the ramp to give you away if you try crap like this. Not to meantion that on flying maps, patroling orcas are the anti-nuke.
On any given flying map, your best bet on planting a beacon (Except for having tank support and having someone park on it) is planting it inside a building, or at least in the WF bay.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Sbh`s on no-base map and how to get rid of them [message #318564 is a reply to message #318561] |
Sat, 23 February 2008 04:27 |
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| Dover wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 05:02 |
| CnC-Junk-E wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 02:42 |
| topcap wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 04:37 |
i never put a c4 near my nuke it gives its positoin away
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How so?..
Its actually helped me 70% of the time, if I fail to kill the engies/techs/hotties then the c4 usually does..
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Your area is silly. There's always a proxy on the ramp to give you away if you try crap like this. Not to meantion that on flying maps, patroling orcas are the anti-nuke.
On any given flying map, your best bet on planting a beacon (Except for having tank support and having someone park on it) is planting it inside a building, or at least in the WF bay.
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1. Usually there is about 3 or 4 proxies on the ramp, this isnt enough to kill and i wait for any infantry in the area to dispear before i run through the proxies.. If there is more than 3 or 4 proxies, ill try another building..
2. In a game with 50 players its hard to even get in the base without being spotted, let alone up that ramp, so im talking more like 30 player games..
3. I wait for the orcas patrolling (if any) to get out of site before i plant the nuke.. And even if they come to that area, im usually hiding behind the stairs up there where they cant hit me..
4. By the time engies/hotties work out where the nuke is and come up there the nuke has almost gone off, so mission accomplished WF destroyed..
5. Finally, ive been doing this since 2003 when i first started playing this game and it works about 80-90% of the time for ME, if it doesnt work for you, then maybe your doing something wrong..
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| Re: Sbh`s on no-base map and how to get rid of them [message #318597 is a reply to message #318564] |
Sat, 23 February 2008 09:46 |
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| CnC-Junk-E wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 03:27 |
| Dover wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 05:02 |
| CnC-Junk-E wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 02:42 |
| topcap wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 04:37 |
i never put a c4 near my nuke it gives its positoin away
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How so?..
Its actually helped me 70% of the time, if I fail to kill the engies/techs/hotties then the c4 usually does..
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Your area is silly. There's always a proxy on the ramp to give you away if you try crap like this. Not to meantion that on flying maps, patroling orcas are the anti-nuke.
On any given flying map, your best bet on planting a beacon (Except for having tank support and having someone park on it) is planting it inside a building, or at least in the WF bay.
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1. Usually there is about 3 or 4 proxies on the ramp, this isnt enough to kill and i wait for any infantry in the area to dispear before i run through the proxies.. If there is more than 3 or 4 proxies, ill try another building..
2. In a game with 50 players its hard to even get in the base without being spotted, let alone up that ramp, so im talking more like 30 player games..
3. I wait for the orcas patrolling (if any) to get out of site before i plant the nuke.. And even if they come to that area, im usually hiding behind the stairs up there where they cant hit me..
4. By the time engies/hotties work out where the nuke is and come up there the nuke has almost gone off, so mission accomplished WF destroyed..
5. Finally, ive been doing this since 2003 when i first started playing this game and it works about 80-90% of the time for ME, if it doesnt work for you, then maybe your doing something wrong..
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1. The point isn't to kill you. The point is to detect you. If your enemy is stupid enough to have EVERYBODY leave from the base, then they deserve what's coming. Even if they were trying to, it would be very unlikely that the ramp would ever be completely unguarded ever. (The front door of the WF easily gets the most traffic out of any place in the GDI base, without a doubt).
2. Even in 30 player games, this still applied. Once you get down to 20 or so you might have more luck, but then you're a waste of a player slot if you're dicking around as an SBH, waiting for the other team to fuck up enough to let you in.
3. The thing about Orcas is that they're extremely mobile, able to return to base in a heartbeat. They could start turning back from the feild at the moment you lay the beacon and could have you killed before the countdown starts.
4. All it takes is one hottie. Usually the one piloting the orca. If you hide and you don't get killed, any orca pilot with half a brain has their vech rigged with C4 for situations like this.
5. Maybe it works 90% of the time because you're playing against nine year olds Down Syndrome.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Sbh`s on no-base map and how to get rid of them [message #318602 is a reply to message #318597] |
Sat, 23 February 2008 10:19 |
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| Dover wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 10:46 |
| CnC-Junk-E wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 03:27 |
| Dover wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 05:02 |
| CnC-Junk-E wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 02:42 |
| topcap wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 04:37 |
i never put a c4 near my nuke it gives its positoin away
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How so?..
Its actually helped me 70% of the time, if I fail to kill the engies/techs/hotties then the c4 usually does..
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Your area is silly. There's always a proxy on the ramp to give you away if you try crap like this. Not to meantion that on flying maps, patroling orcas are the anti-nuke.
On any given flying map, your best bet on planting a beacon (Except for having tank support and having someone park on it) is planting it inside a building, or at least in the WF bay.
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1. Usually there is about 3 or 4 proxies on the ramp, this isnt enough to kill and i wait for any infantry in the area to dispear before i run through the proxies.. If there is more than 3 or 4 proxies, ill try another building..
2. In a game with 50 players its hard to even get in the base without being spotted, let alone up that ramp, so im talking more like 30 player games..
3. I wait for the orcas patrolling (if any) to get out of site before i plant the nuke.. And even if they come to that area, im usually hiding behind the stairs up there where they cant hit me..
4. By the time engies/hotties work out where the nuke is and come up there the nuke has almost gone off, so mission accomplished WF destroyed..
5. Finally, ive been doing this since 2003 when i first started playing this game and it works about 80-90% of the time for ME, if it doesnt work for you, then maybe your doing something wrong..
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1. The point isn't to kill you. The point is to detect you. If your enemy is stupid enough to have EVERYBODY leave from the base, then they deserve what's coming. Even if they were trying to, it would be very unlikely that the ramp would ever be completely unguarded ever. (The front door of the WF easily gets the most traffic out of any place in the GDI base, without a doubt).
2. Even in 30 player games, this still applied. Once you get down to 20 or so you might have more luck, but then you're a waste of a player slot if you're dicking around as an SBH, waiting for the other team to fuck up enough to let you in.
3. The thing about Orcas is that they're extremely mobile, able to return to base in a heartbeat. They could start turning back from the feild at the moment you lay the beacon and could have you killed before the countdown starts.
4. All it takes is one hottie. Usually the one piloting the orca. If you hide and you don't get killed, any orca pilot with half a brain has their vech rigged with C4 for situations like this.
5. Maybe it works 90% of the time because you're playing against nine year olds Down Syndrome.
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Dover, no offense, you're pretty intelligent, but you serious need to find a life my friend. Try to cut down on the insult, try to see the character for what its worth, and attempt to...You know...Not say ignorant crap 
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| Re: Sbh`s on no-base map and how to get rid of them [message #318608 is a reply to message #316727] |
Sat, 23 February 2008 11:05 |
Jamie or NuneGa
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Going back to the point about timed c4... unless someone is using advantage skins the timed will be less likely to be seen than the nuke, therefore it won't give the nuke away.
Furthermore the c4 is very helpful against hotty's as it may just kill one of em and in a small spot the timed could cover the main disarmament place.
Also the c4 would cause most(not all) hotwires to keep their distance from the nuke through fear of killing blown up. Thereofr increasing the disarmament time with can often cause a nuke to go off, just due to the fact that someone stands too far away.
Therefore if you have a timed c4 use it to cover a nuke.
Another tactic I find useful in smaller player games is using the c4 on an mct far away from the nuke spot, which often causes people to go investigate and get maximum distance from actual nuke.
Jamie is a guys name in Europe...
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| Re: Sbh`s on no-base map and how to get rid of them [message #318663 is a reply to message #318608] |
Sat, 23 February 2008 17:06 |
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| NuneGa wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 12:05 |
Going back to the point about timed c4... unless someone is using advantage skins the timed will be less likely to be seen than the nuke, therefore it won't give the nuke away.
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The problem is that almost every idiot now playing has those advantage C4 and mine and beacon skins.
The other day in CnC_Under, some Hotties slipped through the PP tunnel and layed a Beacon and I couldn't find them.
I was like WTF...where the hell? I could hear the "pling pling pling"...then a moment later I stopped, looked and found it right there and disarmed it.
Now how many idiots miss having that part of gameplay because of advantage skins?
Most of them have advantage skins seriously compromising the originality of the gameplay.
If you want skins, then get character skins that don't make any drastic changes to WW's design. The only skin (custom by me) is that my BH sniper's helmet visor is a thin spooky ninja-like red slit and not a motorcyle helmet with a big visor.
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| Re: Sbh`s on no-base map and how to get rid of them [message #318693 is a reply to message #318597] |
Sat, 23 February 2008 18:50 |
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| Dover wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 10:46 |
| CnC-Junk-E wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 03:27 |
| Dover wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 05:02 |
| CnC-Junk-E wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 02:42 |
| topcap wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 04:37 |
i never put a c4 near my nuke it gives its positoin away
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How so?..
Its actually helped me 70% of the time, if I fail to kill the engies/techs/hotties then the c4 usually does..
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Your area is silly. There's always a proxy on the ramp to give you away if you try crap like this. Not to meantion that on flying maps, patroling orcas are the anti-nuke.
On any given flying map, your best bet on planting a beacon (Except for having tank support and having someone park on it) is planting it inside a building, or at least in the WF bay.
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1. Usually there is about 3 or 4 proxies on the ramp, this isnt enough to kill and i wait for any infantry in the area to dispear before i run through the proxies.. If there is more than 3 or 4 proxies, ill try another building..
2. In a game with 50 players its hard to even get in the base without being spotted, let alone up that ramp, so im talking more like 30 player games..
3. I wait for the orcas patrolling (if any) to get out of site before i plant the nuke.. And even if they come to that area, im usually hiding behind the stairs up there where they cant hit me..
4. By the time engies/hotties work out where the nuke is and come up there the nuke has almost gone off, so mission accomplished WF destroyed..
5. Finally, ive been doing this since 2003 when i first started playing this game and it works about 80-90% of the time for ME, if it doesnt work for you, then maybe your doing something wrong..
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1. The point isn't to kill you. The point is to detect you. If your enemy is stupid enough to have EVERYBODY leave from the base, then they deserve what's coming. Even if they were trying to, it would be very unlikely that the ramp would ever be completely unguarded ever. (The front door of the WF easily gets the most traffic out of any place in the GDI base, without a doubt).
2. Even in 30 player games, this still applied. Once you get down to 20 or so you might have more luck, but then you're a waste of a player slot if you're dicking around as an SBH, waiting for the other team to fuck up enough to let you in.
3. The thing about Orcas is that they're extremely mobile, able to return to base in a heartbeat. They could start turning back from the feild at the moment you lay the beacon and could have you killed before the countdown starts.
4. All it takes is one hottie. Usually the one piloting the orca. If you hide and you don't get killed, any orca pilot with half a brain has their vech rigged with C4 for situations like this.
5. Maybe it works 90% of the time because you're playing against nine year olds Down Syndrome.
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LOL...
Dude im just sharing my tactics here, its not asif i imagined all this or dreamed it up.. ive been playing this game since it first came out pretty much and ur here talking to me about 9 yr old kids with disabilities, thats sad..
do yourself a favor and listen to your mate and get a life..
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| Re: Sbh`s on no-base map and how to get rid of them [message #318731 is a reply to message #318693] |
Sun, 24 February 2008 05:44 |
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| CnC-Junk-E wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 19:50 |
| Dover wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 10:46 |
| CnC-Junk-E wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 03:27 |
| Dover wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 05:02 |
| CnC-Junk-E wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 02:42 |
| topcap wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 04:37 |
i never put a c4 near my nuke it gives its positoin away
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How so?..
Its actually helped me 70% of the time, if I fail to kill the engies/techs/hotties then the c4 usually does..
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Your area is silly. There's always a proxy on the ramp to give you away if you try crap like this. Not to meantion that on flying maps, patroling orcas are the anti-nuke.
On any given flying map, your best bet on planting a beacon (Except for having tank support and having someone park on it) is planting it inside a building, or at least in the WF bay.
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1. Usually there is about 3 or 4 proxies on the ramp, this isnt enough to kill and i wait for any infantry in the area to dispear before i run through the proxies.. If there is more than 3 or 4 proxies, ill try another building..
2. In a game with 50 players its hard to even get in the base without being spotted, let alone up that ramp, so im talking more like 30 player games..
3. I wait for the orcas patrolling (if any) to get out of site before i plant the nuke.. And even if they come to that area, im usually hiding behind the stairs up there where they cant hit me..
4. By the time engies/hotties work out where the nuke is and come up there the nuke has almost gone off, so mission accomplished WF destroyed..
5. Finally, ive been doing this since 2003 when i first started playing this game and it works about 80-90% of the time for ME, if it doesnt work for you, then maybe your doing something wrong..
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1. The point isn't to kill you. The point is to detect you. If your enemy is stupid enough to have EVERYBODY leave from the base, then they deserve what's coming. Even if they were trying to, it would be very unlikely that the ramp would ever be completely unguarded ever. (The front door of the WF easily gets the most traffic out of any place in the GDI base, without a doubt).
2. Even in 30 player games, this still applied. Once you get down to 20 or so you might have more luck, but then you're a waste of a player slot if you're dicking around as an SBH, waiting for the other team to fuck up enough to let you in.
3. The thing about Orcas is that they're extremely mobile, able to return to base in a heartbeat. They could start turning back from the feild at the moment you lay the beacon and could have you killed before the countdown starts.
4. All it takes is one hottie. Usually the one piloting the orca. If you hide and you don't get killed, any orca pilot with half a brain has their vech rigged with C4 for situations like this.
5. Maybe it works 90% of the time because you're playing against nine year olds Down Syndrome.
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LOL...
Dude im just sharing my tactics here, its not asif i imagined all this or dreamed it up.. ive been playing this game since it first came out pretty much and ur here talking to me about 9 yr old kids with disabilities, thats sad..
do yourself a favor and listen to your mate and get a life..
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| Re: Sbh`s on no-base map and how to get rid of them [message #318849 is a reply to message #318801] |
Mon, 25 February 2008 05:05 |
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| CnC-Junk-E wrote on Sun, 24 February 2008 23:46 |
An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the man", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject.
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Don't ever copy from wikipedia, ever.
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| Re: Sbh`s on no-base map and how to get rid of them [message #318932 is a reply to message #318564] |
Mon, 25 February 2008 13:18 |
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| CnC-Junk-E wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 06:27 |
| Dover wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 05:02 |
| CnC-Junk-E wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 02:42 |
| topcap wrote on Sat, 23 February 2008 04:37 |
i never put a c4 near my nuke it gives its positoin away
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How so?..
Its actually helped me 70% of the time, if I fail to kill the engies/techs/hotties then the c4 usually does..
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Your area is silly. There's always a proxy on the ramp to give you away if you try crap like this. Not to meantion that on flying maps, patroling orcas are the anti-nuke.
On any given flying map, your best bet on planting a beacon (Except for having tank support and having someone park on it) is planting it inside a building, or at least in the WF bay.
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1. Usually there is about 3 or 4 proxies on the ramp, this isnt enough to kill and i wait for any infantry in the area to dispear before i run through the proxies.. If there is more than 3 or 4 proxies, ill try another building..
2. In a game with 50 players its hard to even get in the base without being spotted, let alone up that ramp, so im talking more like 30 player games..
3. I wait for the orcas patrolling (if any) to get out of site before i plant the nuke.. And even if they come to that area, im usually hiding behind the stairs up there where they cant hit me..
4. By the time engies/hotties work out where the nuke is and come up there the nuke has almost gone off, so mission accomplished WF destroyed..
5. Finally, ive been doing this since 2003 when i first started playing this game and it works about 80-90% of the time for ME, if it doesnt work for you, then maybe your doing something wrong..
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Nuking in a 50 player server isn't as hard as some of you may think.
It can be alot harder in a 4 player server.
Nuking requires the right timing.(Especialy in public servers) ( counts for most things in Renegade ) it's all about anticipating the move you enemy is making. For example if your base is being sieged, big chance you get to nuke a building down without probs.
Another one, always use the pistol when your an sbh no matter what 90% of the situation. There is nothing more destructive then your enemy that won't know what hit em. A better argument is probably the sound a sbh laser rifle.. creates ! hey guys me and my nuke is RIGHT here.
If your playing in a organized game nuking is a way to get distraction but it's alot harder to get it done.
WOL nick: JPNOD
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| Re: Sbh`s on no-base map and how to get rid of them [message #319012 is a reply to message #318849] |
Mon, 25 February 2008 18:39 |
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| sadukar09 wrote on Mon, 25 February 2008 06:05 |
| CnC-Junk-E wrote on Sun, 24 February 2008 23:46 |
An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the man", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject.
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Don't ever copy from wikipedia, ever.
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LoL.. why not?... is it copyrighted?... ROFL
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| Re: Sbh`s on no-base map and how to get rid of them [message #319076 is a reply to message #319012] |
Tue, 26 February 2008 05:15 |
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| CnC-Junk-E wrote on Mon, 25 February 2008 19:39 |
| sadukar09 wrote on Mon, 25 February 2008 06:05 |
| CnC-Junk-E wrote on Sun, 24 February 2008 23:46 |
An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the man", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject.
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Don't ever copy from wikipedia, ever.
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LoL.. why not?... is it copyrighted?... ROFL
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Makes you seem like an idiot that you can't explain it in your own words. Dumbass.
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