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Re: US bashing (I strike back) [message #311159 is a reply to message #311039]

Tue, 15 January 2008 12:49

R315r4z0r
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Starbuzz wrote on Tue, 15 January 2008 00:59

Here's the short version:
-The Soviet Union placed missiles in Cuba because the United States placed missiles in Turkey (in 1961) that could reach Moscow in 16 minutes. Placing missiles in Cuba (in 1962) was the just and fair Soviet retaliation for American actions.

I didn't read any of your post except for that. I didn't know that. Thumbs Up

EDIT:
I decided to peek a little more into what you said, cause I feel like I wasted your time by not reading any more than I did:

Starbuzz wrote on Tue, 15 January 2008 00:59

This is the stupidity that I find in some people (everywhere) and CANNOT agree with. Not only is this paranoia but also stupidity, arrogance and self-righteousness.

No offence, but you're the one being stupid here. Can I at least have back up information explaining why it is "stupidity, arrogance, and self-righteousness?" *edit* self-righteous is a given*

I never said that the US couldn't trust other countries, I just said that it can only trust in itself 100%.

I'm not even in the same argument as you. I'm not arguing facts, I'm arguing ethics. The result of what could happen, how many lives could be lost. Not because of this, this has happened and you are to blame for it. Because honestly, I hate history, and it puts me to sleep. I have little to no interest in it what so ever, and I have hardly a clue at what the hell I'm talking about when it comes to that.

But what I do know, I try my best to use. For example, I believe you took the comment I said the wrong way.
It is the same as trusting a convicted murderer with a gun to stand next to you and not kill you. There is no way to prove that what they say is what they are going to go by. Just like you have no way to prove that what the US says is what they are going to go by. The only thing you can trust in is yourself. That is why I said we can trust ourselves, but not others. Just like you can trust yourselves but not others. I didn't mean it in as a superiority "we are more responsible than you are" comment.

Starbuzz wrote on Tue, 15 January 2008 00:59

Did you know that the sole reason the Cold War never became a hot war? Not because you did all the the "good" shit but because Russians are not the animals you think they are. And they are not the animals you have brainwashed others into thinking they are.

But I never said that. I never implied that. I never even thought that. No body said the US thought they where "animals." From my point of view, the only difference is the type of economy each country runs.

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