Renegade Public Forums
C&C: Renegade --> Dying since 2003™, resurrected in 2024!
Home » General Discussions » Heated Discussions and Debates » Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself
Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295751] Fri, 09 November 2007 09:26 Go to next message
Blazer is currently offline  Blazer
Messages: 3322
Registered: February 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Karma: 0
General (3 Stars)
Administrator/General

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1192380772105&pagename=JPost%2FJP Article%2FShowFull

Quote:

Egyptian and Saudi Arabian intentions to begin or revive their nuclear programs in the face of Iran's continued race toward nuclear power present an "apocalyptic scenario" for Israel as well as for the rest of the world.

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak announced a decision to restart his country's nuclear program. On Wednesday, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad announced that his country had begun operating 3,000 centrifuges for the enrichment of uranium.

Lieberman also said Pakistan was a major threat to Israel due to the political instability there and the fact that the country had "missiles, nuclear weapons and a proven capability."



Sometimes I wish they would go ahead and do it, it's the only way they will ever stop fighting. Sadly the radioactive fallout will fuck up the rest of the world.

[Updated on: Fri, 09 November 2007 09:26]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295758 is a reply to message #295751] Fri, 09 November 2007 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Memphis is currently offline  Memphis
Messages: 227
Registered: January 2005
Karma: 0
Recruit
This is just flexing muscles and nothing more. It gets blown completely out of proportion as always. They very well know that if one did nuke the other it would go both ways. I would actually like to see what would happen if the media stop paying attention to this as it just fuels them on.
Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295762 is a reply to message #295758] Fri, 09 November 2007 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CarrierII is currently offline  CarrierII
Messages: 3804
Registered: February 2006
Location: England
Karma: 0
General (3 Stars)

Memphis wrote on Fri, 09 November 2007 16:49

This is just flexing muscles and nothing more. It gets blown completely out of proportion as always. They very well know that if one did nuke the other it would go both ways. I would actually like to see what would happen if the media stop paying attention to this as it just fuels them on.


Wouldn't it be hard to pay attention if the media stopped reporting what went on?

Sorry, obvious question.

On topic, This won't go anywhere, they just want their little lukewarm war. (It's not a cold war, because they're firing on occasion, but it's not a "hot" war, because no one's launched a nuke or equally large bomb)



Renguard is a wonderful initiative
Toggle Spoiler
Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295771 is a reply to message #295751] Fri, 09 November 2007 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ryu is currently offline  Ryu
Messages: 2833
Registered: September 2006
Location: Liverpool, England.
Karma: 0
General (2 Stars)

Nukes should only be used in video games.

Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295773 is a reply to message #295771] Fri, 09 November 2007 10:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jnz is currently offline  jnz
Messages: 3396
Registered: July 2006
Location: 30th century
Karma: 0
General (3 Stars)
Ryu wrote on Fri, 09 November 2007 17:49

Nukes should only be used in video games.



this is a video game Dont Get It
Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295779 is a reply to message #295751] Fri, 09 November 2007 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PlastoJoe is currently offline  PlastoJoe
Messages: 647
Registered: October 2005
Karma: 0
Colonel
That's the real reason we should pull out of Iraq. We don't want our soldiers melting when the whole Middle East clusterfuck happens.

http://qntm.org/files/board/current.png


You may be a fundamentalist atheist if...


Toggle Spoiler
Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295791 is a reply to message #295779] Fri, 09 November 2007 13:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
R315r4z0r is currently offline  R315r4z0r
Messages: 3836
Registered: March 2005
Location: New York
Karma: 0
General (3 Stars)
They wont start launching nukes until 2012.
Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295800 is a reply to message #295791] Fri, 09 November 2007 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Starbuzz is currently offline  Starbuzz
Messages: 2500
Registered: May 2007
Karma: 2
General (2 Stars)
All these Arab/Persian Middle Eastern nations know of Mutually Assisted Destruction (MAD).

The ONLY REAL REASON Iran so desperately want nuclear capability is to achieve military paritity with Israel....and along with that the political prominence.

Iran knows very well that Israel's military would murder them if a conventional war erupted. So, to negate Israel's superior military advantage, Iran needs nuclear weapons that can be used to threaten Israel from afar.

They already have the missiles and launch vehicles...they only need the nuclear warheads to put in them.

This won't lead to nuclear war but a cold war with only nukes as detterents against invasion.

If Iran goes nuclear, game over in the Middle East...welcome the new cold war.

And even then, the possibility of terrorists getting nuclear weapons is high. Iran believes Israel should be wiped out and Jerusalem "restored." They will use those to their advantage.

Just imagine Israeli civilians abandoning cities and huge swatches of Israeli lands in fear of a lone-nuclear suicide bomber...that is what the Persians will be going for.


buzzsigfinal

[Updated on: Fri, 09 November 2007 14:15]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295824 is a reply to message #295800] Fri, 09 November 2007 15:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
R315r4z0r is currently offline  R315r4z0r
Messages: 3836
Registered: March 2005
Location: New York
Karma: 0
General (3 Stars)
There was a prediction by some guy... I forgot who...

He said the world would end in 2012, and he said how as well. It was translated to something like "Nuclear Holocaust"

[Updated on: Fri, 09 November 2007 15:04]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295826 is a reply to message #295751] Fri, 09 November 2007 15:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Blazer is currently offline  Blazer
Messages: 3322
Registered: February 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Karma: 0
General (3 Stars)
Administrator/General

Iran isn't just trying to keep up...they have repeatedly said their goal is to "erase Israel from the earth". They would like nothing more than to develop nukes and turn Israel into a smoking crater.

Like I said, that's fine with me, they can blow the fuck out of themselves for all I care, I'm just worried about the radioactive fallout that will go into the atmosphere and own the rest of the world. That and if they are so eager to nuke their neighbors whats to stop them from nuking any and everyone else who pisses them off...like the US, Russia, etc
Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295829 is a reply to message #295751] Fri, 09 November 2007 15:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oblivion165 is currently offline  Oblivion165
Messages: 3468
Registered: June 2003
Location: Hendersonville, North Car...
Karma: 0
General (3 Stars)
"Oblivion165 from a locked thread thats why their isn't a time stamp here"


Countries like Iraq and Iran are not apart of the greater plan. When the world unites into a single government they will not withhold the standards and ideals that are required, they are far too reliant on religion and it fogs their perception of reality.



Let them smolder, if they don't want to evolve then they need to be left behind.


WOL: Ob165ion Skype: Oblivion165 Yahoo Instant Messenger: CaptainJohn165

[Updated on: Fri, 09 November 2007 15:15]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295843 is a reply to message #295751] Fri, 09 November 2007 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Memphis is currently offline  Memphis
Messages: 227
Registered: January 2005
Karma: 0
Recruit
Israel did well to develop their nuclear program on the sly. It was only because details of it got leaked that the world found out and everyone crapped themselves. I think Iran's bark is a hell of a lot worse than its bite. Yes you may think of them as 'simpletons living in caves' but in reality while they may wish to seek revenge you have to be realistic and launching a nuclear weapon would mean destruction of all parties involved.
Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295860 is a reply to message #295843] Fri, 09 November 2007 16:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
R315r4z0r is currently offline  R315r4z0r
Messages: 3836
Registered: March 2005
Location: New York
Karma: 0
General (3 Stars)
They are messing around with stuff they don't understand.

They think: "Oh nuke! Big big boom! Israel gone! We be free forever!"
But they don't realize they hurt themselves and everyone else in a couple thousand miles of the radius... for years to come.

[Updated on: Fri, 09 November 2007 16:55]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295918 is a reply to message #295824] Fri, 09 November 2007 22:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jecht is currently offline  Jecht
Messages: 3156
Registered: September 2004
Karma: 0
General (3 Stars)
razorblade001 wrote on Fri, 09 November 2007 16:03

There was a prediction by some guy... I forgot who...

He said the world would end in 2012, and he said how as well. It was translated to something like "Nuclear Holocaust"


Nostradamus?


http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9146/hartyn4.png
Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295929 is a reply to message #295918] Fri, 09 November 2007 22:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Starbuzz is currently offline  Starbuzz
Messages: 2500
Registered: May 2007
Karma: 2
General (2 Stars)
Jecht wrote on Fri, 09 November 2007 23:14

razorblade001 wrote on Fri, 09 November 2007 16:03

There was a prediction by some guy... I forgot who...

He said the world would end in 2012, and he said how as well. It was translated to something like "Nuclear Holocaust"


Nostradamus?


That fucker's been associated with a lot of things. None of this prediction/prophesy bullshit is true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_clairvoyance


buzzsigfinal

[Updated on: Fri, 09 November 2007 22:52]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295944 is a reply to message #295751] Sat, 10 November 2007 01:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nikki6ixx is currently offline  nikki6ixx
Messages: 2545
Registered: August 2007
Karma: 0
General (2 Stars)
It's power politics, and that's it. Saudi Arabia, and it's Wahhabist Sunni regime is worried that Iran, and its Shiite people will be the 'beacon' of Islam for the Middle East.

Shiite's and Sunni's don't get along much anymore... think along the lines of Catholics and Protestants a few centuries ago.

Mind you, this sort of happened in the 50's too, between Nasserist Egypt, and Syria; their political competition led to the 'Six Day War' against Israel, all because both Egypt and Syria both wanted to 'lead' the Arab world.


Renegade:
Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56

The only game where everyone competes to be an e-janitor.
Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295945 is a reply to message #295751] Sat, 10 November 2007 01:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rocko
Messages: 833
Registered: January 2007
Location: Long Beach, California
Karma: 0
Colonel
This may seem wrong. but did anyone prefer it when Saddam was in power and was there to fight with Iran?

black and proud
Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295947 is a reply to message #295945] Sat, 10 November 2007 01:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nikki6ixx is currently offline  nikki6ixx
Messages: 2545
Registered: August 2007
Karma: 0
General (2 Stars)
Rocko wrote on Sat, 10 November 2007 02:56

This may seem wrong. but did anyone prefer it when Saddam was in power and was there to fight with Iran?


Removing the man was a mistake, and I said that back in 2003.


Renegade:
Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56

The only game where everyone competes to be an e-janitor.
Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295982 is a reply to message #295947] Sat, 10 November 2007 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Starbuzz is currently offline  Starbuzz
Messages: 2500
Registered: May 2007
Karma: 2
General (2 Stars)
nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 10 November 2007 02:58

Rocko wrote on Sat, 10 November 2007 02:56

This may seem wrong. but did anyone prefer it when Saddam was in power and was there to fight with Iran?


Removing the man was a mistake, and I said that back in 2003.


My thoughts exactly ever since President Bush went on TV and said Saddam must step down "in 72 hours." A blunder mistake...if I may add.


buzzsigfinal

[Updated on: Sat, 10 November 2007 08:18]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295983 is a reply to message #295779] Sat, 10 November 2007 08:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Anderson is currently offline  Dave Anderson
Messages: 1953
Registered: December 2004
Location: United States
Karma: 0
General (1 Star)
PlastoJoe wrote on Fri, 09 November 2007 12:24

That's the real reason we should pull out of Iraq. We don't want our soldiers melting when the whole Middle East clusterfuck happens.


Iran is waiting for the U.S. to do just that. As soon as we pull out I can bet that they are going to sweep over Iraq.


David Anderson
Founder, Software Consultant
DCOM Productions
Microsoft Partner (MSP)
Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #295989 is a reply to message #295929] Sat, 10 November 2007 08:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
R315r4z0r is currently offline  R315r4z0r
Messages: 3836
Registered: March 2005
Location: New York
Karma: 0
General (3 Stars)
Starbuzz wrote on Sat, 10 November 2007 00:52

Jecht wrote on Fri, 09 November 2007 23:14

razorblade001 wrote on Fri, 09 November 2007 16:03

There was a prediction by some guy... I forgot who...

He said the world would end in 2012, and he said how as well. It was translated to something like "Nuclear Holocaust"


Nostradamus?


That fucker's been associated with a lot of things. None of this prediction/prophesy bullshit is true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_clairvoyance


He predicted 9/11
Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #296002 is a reply to message #295989] Sat, 10 November 2007 09:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Starbuzz is currently offline  Starbuzz
Messages: 2500
Registered: May 2007
Karma: 2
General (2 Stars)
razorblade001 wrote on Sat, 10 November 2007 15:48

Starbuzz wrote on Sat, 10 November 2007 00:52

Jecht wrote on Fri, 09 November 2007 23:14

razorblade001 wrote on Fri, 09 November 2007 16:03

There was a prediction by some guy... I forgot who...

He said the world would end in 2012, and he said how as well. It was translated to something like "Nuclear Holocaust"


Nostradamus?


That fucker's been associated with a lot of things. None of this prediction/prophesy bullshit is true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_clairvoyance


He predicted 9/11


Or you think he did. Even some Bible-lovers said that the Bible talks about 9/11 in the Book of Revelation.

Read information in link please.


buzzsigfinal
Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #296047 is a reply to message #296002] Sat, 10 November 2007 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
R315r4z0r is currently offline  R315r4z0r
Messages: 3836
Registered: March 2005
Location: New York
Karma: 0
General (3 Stars)
I did read it. It wasn't altered after it happened... because I heard the prediction on the Discovery channel before it even happened. It was this documentary on Nostradamus. It showed some of the things he predicted and some that happened. It even said a few that where supposed to happen in the future.

If I remember correctly, the one about 9/11 was under a category of predicted, but has not happened. I mean, no one would put 2 and 2 together until the actual event happened, because nobody even saw what happened on 9/11 coming anyway...
Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #296140 is a reply to message #296047] Sun, 11 November 2007 02:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Starbuzz is currently offline  Starbuzz
Messages: 2500
Registered: May 2007
Karma: 2
General (2 Stars)
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x168/furypilot/HesComing.png

[Updated on: Sun, 11 November 2007 02:06]

Report message to a moderator

Re: Only a matter of time before the middle east nukes itself [message #296146 is a reply to message #295751] Sun, 11 November 2007 02:52 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Rocko
Messages: 833
Registered: January 2007
Location: Long Beach, California
Karma: 0
Colonel
we should be the ones doing the nuking

black and proud
Previous Topic: miming
Next Topic: UK > US
Goto Forum:
  


Current Time: Fri Nov 22 14:06:01 MST 2024

Total time taken to generate the page: 0.01208 seconds