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Re: Why the US really wants to go to war with Iran [message #293097 is a reply to message #293037] |
Sat, 27 October 2007 08:46   |
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Surth wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 03:53 |
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At least we didn't let our country be taken over by a military dictator that wants to wipe out entire religions from the face of the Earth.

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Re: Why the US really wants to go to war with Iran [message #293122 is a reply to message #292464] |
Sat, 27 October 2007 10:06   |
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Bush is the most ignorant american president ever, and that says alot, he jus dives into a war costing the usa an incredible amount of money withoput even resolving any of the chaos in Iraq, than he just doesnt even show his fucking face when disaster hits, and last but not least he threw his country right into the middle of economical reccesion, yeah hes not ignorant at all.
The only way the people will ever like him again is if he gets declared as some sort of hero taking out all the terrorists, now theyre jus gonna dive into Iran like they did Iraq and come up with some bullshit showing what a great job Bush did, exactly like they planned to do during second gulfwar but eventually managed to fail at it...
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Re: Why the US really wants to go to war with Iran [message #293178 is a reply to message #292464] |
Sat, 27 October 2007 13:57   |
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I can't wait until someone actually posts an intelligent analysis of the Bush presidency.
Thorough well thought out analysis, not this speculative dribble and emotionally reactive rhetoric based on something someone's teacher told them one day.
So I dare someone to provide stats that can be checked and balanced analysis based on FACTS.
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Re: Why the US really wants to go to war with Iran [message #293181 is a reply to message #293179] |
Sat, 27 October 2007 14:03   |
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Ethenal wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 15:58 |
KIRBY-098 wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 15:57 | I can't wait until someone actually posts an intelligent analysis of the Bush presidency.
Thorough well thought out analysis, not this speculative dribble and emotionally reactive rhetoric based on something someone's teacher told them one day.
So I dare someone to provide stats that can be checked and balanced analysis based on FACTS.
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That won't happen, because we're all "geeks".
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That should make it easier. Tech heads are usually more intelligent than most (albeit socially inept). Apply yourself.
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Re: Why the US really wants to go to war with Iran [message #293187 is a reply to message #293122] |
Sat, 27 October 2007 14:56   |
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SSADMVR wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 13:06 | Bush is the most ignorant american president ever, and that says alot, he jus dives into a war costing the usa an incredible amount of money withoput even resolving any of the chaos in Iraq
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I'm not saying I disagree nor am I saying do I agree, but isn't taking out Sadaam, who was killing his own people, resolving some chaos in Iraq?
And don't go shoving negative opinions down everyone's throat. (This isn't directed at the person I quoted). Don't go saying the War is doing more harm than it is helping.
It is actually providing jobs for US citizens. My Uncle applied for a job over in Iraq on his own free will back like 2-3 years ago... and he is still there today.
He has come home now and again a few times, but the last time he came back was like last year and a half, ever since then he has been refusing to come back. He is saying he is enjoying it there, besides all the scary things like Convoy runs and stuff. I believe he drives a humm-vee, not sure on that though.
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Re: Why the US really wants to go to war with Iran [message #293239 is a reply to message #293122] |
Sat, 27 October 2007 20:04   |
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SSADMVR wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 13:06 | Bush is the most ignorant american president ever, and that says alot, he jus dives into a war costing the usa an incredible amount of money withoput even resolving any of the chaos in Iraq, than he just doesnt even show his fucking face when disaster hits, and last but not least he threw his country right into the middle of economical reccesion, yeah hes not ignorant at all.
The only way the people will ever like him again is if he gets declared as some sort of hero taking out all the terrorists, now theyre jus gonna dive into Iran like they did Iraq and come up with some bullshit showing what a great job Bush did, exactly like they planned to do during second gulfwar but eventually managed to fail at it...
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THIS is my problem with European ignorance. I don't see Americans judging all of Europe's leaders. Instead, all I see is incorrect assumptions from Europeans, insulting our leaders.
Call me crazy, but slowly entering a war doesn't make sense. If we just eased our way into Iraq, it would give them a better chance to fight us. That wouldn't be smart, would it?
Since when is it a president's job to be at every "important" event that happens in America? Just because liberals like government interference, doesn't mean that conservatives do, too.
Economic recession? What the fuck are you talking about? We MAY be hitting a recession, but our economy is the best it's been in years. Yeah... he's done such a horrible job.
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Re: Why the US really wants to go to war with Iran [message #293305 is a reply to message #293122] |
Sun, 28 October 2007 07:58   |
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SSADMVR wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 12:06 | Bush is the most ignorant american president ever, and that says alot, he jus dives into a war costing the usa an incredible amount of money withoput even resolving any of the chaos in Iraq, than he just doesnt even show his fucking face when disaster hits, and last but not least he threw his country right into the middle of economical reccesion, yeah hes not ignorant at all.
The only way the people will ever like him again is if he gets declared as some sort of hero taking out all the terrorists, now theyre jus gonna dive into Iran like they did Iraq and come up with some bullshit showing what a great job Bush did, exactly like they planned to do during second gulfwar but eventually managed to fail at it...
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Are you KIDDING ME!? The stock market was the highest it's ever been in American HISTORY a few months ago. The reason it went down a little is because it was so high, and if you sell your stocks while it's high you get a lot of money. Then, it went down a LITTLE. The stock market is still very high. Our economy is one of the best it's ever been. Those that tell you otherwise are liberals trying to talk bad about Bush. So don't talk unless you know what you're talking about my friend.
razorblade001 wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 22:06 | It's cause they are still holding a grudge over the Revolutionary War. lol.
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The people that are being ignorant are from Germany and the Netherlands....

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Re: Why the US really wants to go to war with Iran [message #293335 is a reply to message #293239] |
Sun, 28 October 2007 09:46   |
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cheesesoda wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 22:04 |
SSADMVR wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 13:06 | Bush is the most ignorant american president ever, and that says alot, he jus dives into a war costing the usa an incredible amount of money withoput even resolving any of the chaos in Iraq, than he just doesnt even show his fucking face when disaster hits, and last but not least he threw his country right into the middle of economical reccesion, yeah hes not ignorant at all.
The only way the people will ever like him again is if he gets declared as some sort of hero taking out all the terrorists, now theyre jus gonna dive into Iran like they did Iraq and come up with some bullshit showing what a great job Bush did, exactly like they planned to do during second gulfwar but eventually managed to fail at it...
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THIS is my problem with European ignorance. I don't see Americans judging all of Europe's leaders. Instead, all I see is incorrect assumptions from Europeans, insulting our leaders.
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Call me crazy, but slowly entering a war doesn't make sense. If we just eased our way into Iraq, it would give them a better chance to fight us. That wouldn't be smart, would it?
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Since when is it a president's job to be at every "important" event that happens in America? Just because liberals like government interference, doesn't mean that conservatives do, too.
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Economic recession? What the fuck are you talking about? We MAY be hitting a recession, but our economy is the best it's been in years. Yeah... he's done such a horrible job.
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You might not realise it, but America will hit a recession in little time, people have used the most amount of money they can possibly borrow from banks while using their houses as financing for it. Now the worth of houses is falling and people can barely afford to pay their monthly amount of money they need to pay to keep their house leading to the worth of houses even decreasing more and more dragging America and probably even Europe into recession. Bush should've done something about this instead of constantly purely focusing on the so-called war against terrorism (wich is not even the correct term for what Bush is actually doing) and pretty much investing all of America's funds in it.
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Re: Why the US really wants to go to war with Iran [message #293342 is a reply to message #293335] |
Sun, 28 October 2007 10:43   |
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SSADMVR | lol... First Your leaders go way beyond critizing, they actually tell european leaders what to do, how to do it and when to do it, u havent seen how Bush dragged half of Europe into the war against Iraq? Second, ofcourse there isnt as much criticism on European leaders as on Bush, That is because Bush is the single most powerful man on the earth, no european leader comes even close that. So ofcourse he's gonna get more criticism...
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And my point went right over your head. Should I be surprised? Probably not.
I wasn't talking about any elected leaders. I am talking about regular residents of European countries making it more of a point to discuss (and insult) American politics more than Americans care to discuss yours.
SSADMVR | I wasnt talking about the fact it happened so suddenly, im saying it shouldnt have happened at all...
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That's not what you said. Regardless, if your country was attacked, and most politicians even agreed upon another country posing a threat (you should see some quotes that top Democrats said before 2003 about Iraq and Saddam. You would think they wouldn't be so hypocritical now).
SSADMVR | I myself dislike to much governemental interference in daily life, but when it comes to a disaster like Katrina and the presidents is nowhere to be seen, what the fuck does that tell you?
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It's not the president's job to survey the area like so many people think. Bush (or any other president past and future) can't personally change anything by visiting.
SSADMVR | You might not realise it, but America will hit a recession in little time, people have used the most amount of money they can possibly borrow from banks while using their houses as financing for it. Now the worth of houses is falling and people can barely afford to pay their monthly amount of money they need to pay to keep their house leading to the worth of houses even decreasing more and more dragging America and probably even Europe into recession. Bush should've done something about this instead of constantly purely focusing on the so-called war against terrorism (wich is not even the correct term for what Bush is actually doing) and pretty much investing all of America's funds in it.
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Care to pay attention to what I actually said? I admitted that we will probably be hitting a recession, but that still doesn't change the fact that our economy is stronger than it has been in years.
Honestly, it's not the government's job to oversee the economy. There needs to be much more economic freedom than there is. I couldn't give a fuck less if the federal government destroyed the Federal Reserve. Actually, I'd support that.
whoa.
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Re: Why the US really wants to go to war with Iran [message #293343 is a reply to message #292464] |
Sun, 28 October 2007 10:43   |
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Quote: | That is because Bush is the single most powerful man on the earth, no european leader comes even close that.
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I seriously doubt that Putin has less power than Bush...
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Are you a Jacksonian? lol

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Re: Why the US really wants to go to war with Iran [message #293351 is a reply to message #293335] |
Sun, 28 October 2007 11:18   |
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SSADMVR wrote on Sun, 28 October 2007 11:46 |
I myself dislike to much governemental interference in daily life, but when it comes to a disaster like Katrina and the presidents is nowhere to be seen, what the fuck does that tell you?
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DUDE! C'mon man. Read before you say stuff you don't know about. The president ASKED the governor BEFORE Katrina if he wanted help from the government. The governor turned it down! Then, when it struck, he started helping because he knew they needed help.

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