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My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #292943] Fri, 26 October 2007 15:11 Go to next message
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This is so bizzare i mean i modified the Orca Rockets to do +50 damage and the Apache Rockets to!
Anyways whenever i get into a Apache/Orca and attack something with the rockets it comes up with a message saying that i am using the "Weapon Damage Hax" and that i am BANNED!
I mean WTF i am the Host/Admin of the server and it bans me...no big problem as i can unban myself but i am totally like WTF with this....i think it is something with the NR not knowing about my modifications Dont Get It

I found this is a file called BIATCH in my FDS!
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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #292944 is a reply to message #292943] Fri, 26 October 2007 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Are you making these changes server side or client side?

I am assuming you are changing it server side, in which case you should know that changing weapon damage values server side actually has no effect because damage is calculated client side. Which leads me to think your doing it client side, which would be cheating.

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #292947 is a reply to message #292943] Fri, 26 October 2007 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Changing objects.ddb damage values on teh server does not work. The only way to increase damage is by changing for example armor.ini or by scripts code.

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #292948 is a reply to message #292943] Fri, 26 October 2007 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The reason it kicks you is because your using the normal damage value (client side) and the server thinks it should be the +50 value you changed it to, so it assumes its a cheat. You can't change damage values server side as I said before, because damage is calculated client side.

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #292950 is a reply to message #292948] Fri, 26 October 2007 15:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok i partially understand what you mean!

Okay i explain what i do...i go into LE edit the presets to my like e.g Orca Rocket does extra 50 damage than normal
Then i exit LE after saving Preset Tree changes change the objects.ddb to objects.gm for my server then copy & paste the file into my RenegadeFDS/Data folder!

What are you all on about?

What is the difference from Client Sided & Server Sided?
+ How can i change this so NR not think im cheating?

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #292951 is a reply to message #292943] Fri, 26 October 2007 15:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You cannot change damage values on the server-side anyway.

-TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 18 March 2013 07:29

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #292955 is a reply to message #292950] Fri, 26 October 2007 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bat66wat6 wrote on Fri, 26 October 2007 23:37

Ok i partially understand what you mean!

Okay i explain what i do...i go into LE edit the presets to my like e.g Orca Rocket does extra 50 damage than normal
Then i exit LE after saving Preset Tree changes change the objects.ddb to objects.gm for my server then copy & paste the file into my RenegadeFDS/Data folder!

What are you all on about?

What is the difference from Client Sided & Server Sided?
+ How can i change this so NR not think im cheating?



You cant.

You have a mod called BIATCH running on your server that checks for damage hacks.

You have made the orca rockets deal 50 damage instead of the default so BIATCH thinks its a cheat. I will explain this to you as easy as I can.

You changed the damage via objects.dbb and uploaded that to your RenegadeFDS\data folder. But since the damage is calculated client side you actaully send the default damage. So the servers goes 'Hey orcas do 50dmg but this guy here is only doing XX damage, OMG THATS DAMAGE HACKS I BETTER BAN HIM'. To solve your problem, disable auto ban cheaters in the BIATCH.ini but cheaters will beable to use damage hacks in your server.

CarrierII wrote

BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ

Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.


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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #292956 is a reply to message #292943] Fri, 26 October 2007 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Which probably wouldn't be too much of an issue in a mod server, though that depends on what kind of things you run.

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #292958 is a reply to message #292943] Fri, 26 October 2007 16:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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if you run a modded server don't use biatch I know alot of people will reply to this don't listen to him but I am saying by experience don't use it believe me it will save you from alot of issues of it thinking you cheat, if it is just a small server you should be able to detect cheaters on your own anyways..

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #292959 is a reply to message #292943] Fri, 26 October 2007 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And Orcas will still do the original damage amount anyway, so you have disabled automatic cheater banning and gained... nothing. Best solution is to undo the changes you made to the damage values, since they won't work anyway.

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #292980 is a reply to message #292959] Fri, 26 October 2007 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So you are telling me you can make awesome mods like ading new presets to a server and MASSIVE MASSIVE mods like those Renzor servers and co-Op servers but you can't simply change the preset damage on a Rocket?

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #293011 is a reply to message #292943] Fri, 26 October 2007 21:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On the server-side? No.

-TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 18 March 2013 07:29

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #293035 is a reply to message #292959] Sat, 27 October 2007 01:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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danpaul88 wrote on Fri, 26 October 2007 18:05

And Orcas will still do the original damage amount anyway, so you have disabled automatic cheater banning and gained... nothing. Best solution is to undo the changes you made to the damage values, since they won't work anyway.


Exactly ^^

Just for clarification, it is in fact BIATCH that is banning you and not NR, NR just relays the message to you before you get banned.

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #293042 is a reply to message #292943] Sat, 27 October 2007 03:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stop cheating.

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #293070 is a reply to message #293042] Sat, 27 October 2007 07:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OKAY FIRST IRON WARRIOR! I never cheat in my life on Renegade---Except in LAN and MultiPlayerPractice LOL---

I want to make the Orcas and apache missile do more damage cus it is a missile from a Aircraft, i mean come on....if a tank gets hit by a barrage of 3-4 missiles in Reall life from Aircraft he's gonna be hurt! Listen
It is no cheat, i mean i made it fair on all accounts, each team has the same added and Removed things!
So if you say i cheat on my server i have 1 thing to say..."FUCK YOU!"


Anyways moving onwards....how can i mod/edit the missiles so that they do +50 normal damage so that BIATCH don't think i cheat?

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #293071 is a reply to message #292943] Sat, 27 October 2007 07:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Like I said before, edit armor.ini on the server or use a script (Its not easy either way).

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #293073 is a reply to message #293071] Sat, 27 October 2007 07:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Okay, i think i know what you mean i have to edit if it is in RenegadeFDS/Data area....

But i not get it, how does editing the armor make the missiles more powerfull?

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #293089 is a reply to message #292943] Sat, 27 October 2007 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It doesn't it mkaes the armor less strong and thus the rockets do more damage Wink.

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #293116 is a reply to message #293089] Sat, 27 October 2007 10:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That is a big nono Angry Listen , i don't want the vehicles weaker just the Rockets to do more damage--> Huh Big Ups

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #293120 is a reply to message #292943] Sat, 27 October 2007 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If the vehicles were weaker then the rockets would destroy them faster. Is common sense present in this topic?

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #293121 is a reply to message #292943] Sat, 27 October 2007 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Unfortunately you simply cannot do that easily server side. The only other solution would be to write a scripts.dll script and attach it to every object in the game, to check if the damage comes from an Orca / Apache missile and if it does apply an extra x amount of damage from the shooter. But that requires a decent understanding of c++ to accomplish.


Alternatively create a .PKG mod with all the original maps in, apply your changes in there and have all the people who want to play on your server download that. Not recommended if you ever want to have players in your server.

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #293125 is a reply to message #293121] Sat, 27 October 2007 10:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Since i have LITERALLY NO understanding of C++ would it be possible for anyone to make it 4 me?

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #293127 is a reply to message #292943] Sat, 27 October 2007 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Probably not, that would be a lot of coding (I think).

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #293128 is a reply to message #293127] Sat, 27 October 2007 10:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well there has to be a way...

I mean comes on all it is really is generally make the Orca Rocket and Apache rockets do more damage Huh

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Re: My NR thinks i am cheating and bans ME! [message #293129 is a reply to message #292943] Sat, 27 October 2007 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I think your just going to have to face the fact that your not going to be able to implement this.

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