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anyway you lot are gonna discuss this and then im gonna turn ur words into a presentation that will allow me to get a pass.

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It's just wrong.

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Re: abortion... [message #292199 is a reply to message #292187] Tue, 23 October 2007 14:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Abortion is murdering a child that otherwise could have had a good and loving foster home, and a fulfilling life.

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I don't think it is wrong, but it isn't right...

I don't believe it is murder either..

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longer replies please Wink

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Re: abortion... [message #292211 is a reply to message #292204] Tue, 23 October 2007 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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razorblade001 wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 16:54

I don't think it is wrong, but it isn't right...

I don't believe it is murder either..

How is it not murder? Even though the baby has not been born yet. It lives. It's blood circulates. Abortion basically stops all that. Which is murder. That baby could've cured aids.

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Re: abortion... [message #292219 is a reply to message #292211] Tue, 23 October 2007 15:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BlueThen wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 17:59

razorblade001 wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 16:54

I don't think it is wrong, but it isn't right...

I don't believe it is murder either..

How is it not murder? Even though the baby has not been born yet. It lives. It's blood circulates. Abortion basically stops all that. Which is murder. That baby could've cured aids.


Not in this world, just go watch Idiocracy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/). That movie is dead on despite it's comical outlook on the situation.

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Re: abortion... [message #292231 is a reply to message #292187] Tue, 23 October 2007 16:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: abortion... [message #292240 is a reply to message #292187] Tue, 23 October 2007 16:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fetus = human. Consciously ending a human life (without consent) = murder. Thus, abortion = murder.

whoa.

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Re: abortion... [message #292241 is a reply to message #292240] Tue, 23 October 2007 16:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cheesesoda wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 19:28

Fetus = human. Consciously ending a human life (without consent) = murder. Thus, abortion = murder.


And? I seriously think you people need to get over your stigma of murder. We should take a drive someday JBall....I could change your whole perspective on living.

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Re: abortion... [message #292244 is a reply to message #292241] Tue, 23 October 2007 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oblivion165 wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 18:32

cheesesoda wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 19:28

Fetus = human. Consciously ending a human life (without consent) = murder. Thus, abortion = murder.


And? I seriously think you people need to get over your stigma of murder. We should take a drive someday JBall....I could change your whole perspective on living.

It's not that the baby treasures life at that time... but that it could've cured aids when it grew up! And that might be one in a trillion, and we'd have to wait until after aids destroys the human race before another baby like that is born... which is too late.

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Re: abortion... [message #292249 is a reply to message #292187] Tue, 23 October 2007 16:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have you seen the kids today? They wont be curing anything other than the bacteria on a public urinal.

Just look at CNCNick or Viking....that's our future right there.

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Re: abortion... [message #292257 is a reply to message #292249] Tue, 23 October 2007 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oblivion165 wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 18:58

Have you seen the kids today? They wont be curing anything other than the bacteria on a public urinal.

Just look at CNCNick or Viking....that's our future right there.

That may be the majority, but remember that somewhere, hidden in that majority is someone actually smart for once... >.>

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Re: abortion... [message #292258 is a reply to message #292187] Tue, 23 October 2007 17:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know a girl who had an abortion, and if she hadn't had it, the kid would have grown up with a shitty childhood, likely with a learning disability, and would be total trash by age thirteen.

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nikki6ixx wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 20:51

I know a girl who had an abortion, and if she hadn't had it, the kid would have grown up with a shitty childhood, likely with a learning disability, and would be total trash by age thirteen.

So if we should be able to kill kids BEFORE we know they're mistakes, should we be able to kill kids AFTER we realize they're mistakes?

whoa.

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cheesesoda wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 19:52

nikki6ixx wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 20:51

I know a girl who had an abortion, and if she hadn't had it, the kid would have grown up with a shitty childhood, likely with a learning disability, and would be total trash by age thirteen.

So if we should be able to kill kids BEFORE we know they're mistakes, should we be able to kill kids AFTER we realize they're mistakes?


No, but the state should intervene and make sure that the child goes to a home he/she needs in order to be raised properly, and with love.

The father should also be sterilized... just because I think he should, and I'm an asshole. Big Grin

However, that would require massive changes to the 'Foster Care' system.

It might actually just be easier to give the kid a great living and kill the parents, because I doubt the parents contribute much anyway.

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Re: abortion... [message #292267 is a reply to message #292187] Tue, 23 October 2007 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nikki6ixx wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 19:51

I know a girl who had an abortion, and if she hadn't had it, the kid would have grown up with a shitty childhood, likely with a learning disability, and would be total trash by age thirteen.


At least give him or her a chance...we should all have the "right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" no matter how shitty that life would be.

Get over the stigma of murder? WTF?

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http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/facts/abortionstats.html

We might as well address Abortion Clinics as "Auschwitz" from now on. Over 48 million served! Sneaky

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nikki6ixx wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 19:51

I know a girl who had an abortion, and if she hadn't had it, the kid would have grown up with a shitty childhood, likely with a learning disability, and would be total trash by age thirteen.


At least give him or her a chance...we should all have the "right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" no matter how shitty that life would be.

Exactly. You can't go kill homeless people for that reason.

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Get over the stigma of murder? WTF?

Yeah, my reaction, as well.

whoa.

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Re: abortion... [message #292275 is a reply to message #292187] Tue, 23 October 2007 20:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Unless it was rape or something I don't think it should be legal.

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Re: abortion... [message #292277 is a reply to message #292187] Tue, 23 October 2007 21:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Personally, I am against abortion. If a teen gets pregnant, it's their own damn fault and they should raise the child, or at least put it up for adoption or in a foster home.

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Re: abortion... [message #292280 is a reply to message #292187] Tue, 23 October 2007 21:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think it would be good to abort if the kid was going to be born like super retarded or something. that's no life to live. But yeah it's a little touchy and I feel kind of bad thinking about a lil fetus being killed. Although you know I don't really see it as a person when it's only been a few weeks.

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Even a mentally disabled/hendered person can live a very good life. I know first hand; my cousin is mentally disabled and lives a very good and happy life.

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Re: abortion... [message #292307 is a reply to message #292277] Wed, 24 October 2007 00:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Canadacdn wrote on Wed, 24 October 2007 05:12

Personally, I am against abortion. If a teen gets pregnant, it's their own damn fault and they should raise the child, or at least put it up for adoption or in a foster home.


I'm with Canadacdn, also, being mentally disabled is no barrier to a happy life.

Abortion is murder, as murder is the taking away of life (by force). Unless you're suggesting that a fetus is not alive...

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I'm "pro-responsibility".

If you are willing to take the chance of causing pregnancy, you should accept responsibility for your actions and have the kid.

This is not a "act without worrying about the consequences" type of world, nor do I want it to become that.

Abortion is simply saying "I chose to act as I did, but don't want to worry about the consequences of my action. I will never learn, but I never have to worry. I can act however I want and get away with it!".

That being said, when it comes down to rape or the pregnancy comes down to a medical choice of saving the mother or saving the child, but not both... then abortion is fine.

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