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| Re: Man returns gun ammo to walmart at 1300 feet per second [message #284192 is a reply to message #283838] |
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EvilWhiteDragon
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| AoBfrost wrote on Wed, 12 September 2007 19:31 |
| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Wed, 12 September 2007 11:54 |
| AoBfrost wrote on Wed, 12 September 2007 17:51 |
There are many uses, such as starting the horse/dog races, you need a gun for that, you need guns for surround people when taking them down (if you are a police officer), you need guns to tell the speed of fast cars, theres more uses, but since i'm not into guns, I dont know, but just because the main uses are for the things said previously, it doesnt mean they should be banned, i'm all for people owning guns, as long as they dont abuse it, but heck, you cant read minds so you never know how will crack and use them, if we ban guns, then a knife or cross bow will start becomming common weapon, you want to ban knives? then bann kitchens knives to, screw cooking, maybe we'll eat out everyday at fancy italian places and just let them own knives since we all know for 100% sure they wont use them for injustice.
Ya i went a bit off topic, but the point if, if you ban guns from people, then ban them all, because there have been police cases in the past where police misuse a gun, heck even if you do ban guns, people will still OWN them, the black market, illegal imports, people know where to buy guns.
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I stopped reading after "There are many uses, such as starting the horse/dog races, you need a gun for that,".
I had hoped you had a little more intelligence. Now I do see why you are pro-guns. It's a bit of a primitive thing, where you will probably feel right at home.
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Wow, it seems those who don't like something want to force it onto everyone else, how smart and fair that is, yes I may seem to have sounded retarded in that area, but still I proved a point and a point is still a point, you challenged us to come up with more uses and I did, and for lashing at me like that for answering your question, it shows how patience and intelligent you really are. Plus there was some useful arguments after I said "horse/dog" thing, but like a lot of people I guess, their too arrogant to read 3 more sentences just because they cant agree with someone else's view.
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No, I stopped reading the because it is a totally invalid point, and I had hoped you would notice that yourself too. It is rather easy to make something like a gun to start a race. For that purpose you jsut need sometimg that makes a hell of a lot of noise, not something that fires a piece of lead at or above 300m/s.
@Cheesesoda, you said you like having freedoms, that's nice, but my guess is that you are a conservative republican voter, right?
That suggest you supports Bush right?
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| Re: Man returns gun ammo to walmart at 1300 feet per second [message #284260 is a reply to message #283422] |
Thu, 13 September 2007 21:55 |
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How did you make the connection that someone who supports gun rights votes republican? I mean, I can't speak for others, so you may well be right, but I don't support either of the major parties- both of them are interested only in maintaining the status quo, and neither will take this country in a positive direction as far as I'm concerned.
Apologies for cutting in, cheese, but blind political/social assumptions of the "if you believe X, you must be a Y" variety really irritate me on a number of levels.
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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| Re: Man returns gun ammo to walmart at 1300 feet per second [message #284307 is a reply to message #283422] |
Fri, 14 September 2007 05:25 |
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Yeah, it annoys the Hell out of me, too. I say one thing that sounds conservative, and I'm automatically labeled right-wing. Then again, I would have assumed the same, usually before I stopped being a part of either party.
I am certainly not a Republican, nor, obviously, am I a Democrat. I am a Libertarian.
One question: would it kill you to look at my signature? That link that says "Libertarian Party" might have given you a clue.
whoa.
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| Re: Man returns gun ammo to walmart at 1300 feet per second [message #284313 is a reply to message #283422] |
Fri, 14 September 2007 06:23 |
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It's called liberal stereotyping, it's ok, because if i disagree with someone, they can just back themselves up by saying "oh so you must vote republican, thats why your so ghey"
Really it doesnt matter what side i am if I support guns or not, so saying the above quote to me is starting to show you have no valid point in this argument. (meaning ewd so others dont get confused)
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| Re: Man returns gun ammo to walmart at 1300 feet per second [message #284591 is a reply to message #283422] |
Sat, 15 September 2007 21:29 |
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You don't get it, though. The government spending your money on other people is an infringement on your rights. From the sound of it, you see this as a good thing and fully support it. However, I don't. I don't like government spending. I don't care if I would benefit from a welfare program or not down the road. I don't want to have other people's money spent on me, and I don't want to have my money spent on others without my direct consent.
That's why I dislike Socialism. Socialism relies on the government to fix problems. I, on the other hand, view that it should be the community's responsibility to do so. If forced, people in a community WILL unite and help each other out. You can see this after natural disasters. If you don't rely on the government, people will rely on each other. Otherwise, people expect everything from the government which is not right. The government gains power over the people when this happens, and the government taxes more and spends more of my money on other people rather than me. Call it selfish, but I don't think you'd approve of me reaching into your bank account and spending your money, even if it was to be spent wisely to help the poor or hungry simply because I demanded the money and spent it without your consultation.
whoa.
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| Re: Man returns gun ammo to walmart at 1300 feet per second [message #284688 is a reply to message #284591] |
Sun, 16 September 2007 12:17 |
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| cheesesoda wrote on Sun, 16 September 2007 06:29 |
You don't get it, though. The government spending your money on other people is an infringement on your rights. From the sound of it, you see this as a good thing and fully support it. However, I don't. I don't like government spending. I don't care if I would benefit from a welfare program or not down the road. I don't want to have other people's money spent on me, and I don't want to have my money spent on others without my direct consent.
That's why I dislike Socialism. Socialism relies on the government to fix problems. I, on the other hand, view that it should be the community's responsibility to do so. If forced, people in a community WILL unite and help each other out. You can see this after natural disasters. If you don't rely on the government, people will rely on each other. Otherwise, people expect everything from the government which is not right. The government gains power over the people when this happens, and the government taxes more and spends more of my money on other people rather than me. Call it selfish, but I don't think you'd approve of me reaching into your bank account and spending your money, even if it was to be spent wisely to help the poor or hungry simply because I demanded the money and spent it without your consultation.
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Let's put it this way, at least my country isn't spending huge proportions on a war that can't be won.
Also, you stated that the goverment spends your money, givng it to other people. While that is true, of course, it is kept to a minimum, and the money is used for keeping other people alive, and let's them have some form of room above their head. Also, don't forget that this is a choice of the people. If we didnt want this, it wouldn't be there. Of course, not everyone will agree, but that's the same in any democracy.
Another point, you state that people will help each other after a natural disaster. Well, looking at new orleans, the only thing you would be helped with is them eating your food, and others helping you get rid of anything you had left. Hell, even Cuba wanted to send help when your own goverment couldn't deliver. They where to busy evacuating the rich(er) people, while letting the others die.
Anyway, we will probably never agree, for one simple reason, being that we have been brought up with different morals and values.
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| Re: Man returns gun ammo to walmart at 1300 feet per second [message #284794 is a reply to message #283422] |
Mon, 17 September 2007 06:21 |
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I really wouldnt blame the war in Iraq as a waste of money, sure war always is, but look at the smaller goverments in your town, they waste tons more on their own crap, my town is so wasteful (not anymore since the new election) but say 7-8 years ago, they used to have a stone wall, now they replaced the stone with bricks and spent thousands on a fancy new brick wall all around the city, and then every 2 years they would put up new light poles with bigger fancier ones, I think every 2-3 when they did that type of crap that is only needed like once every 10-15 years, it waste a ton of money which could be used to do something else important.
| Scrin wrote on Fri, 05 October 2007 12:19 |
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| Re: Man returns gun ammo to walmart at 1300 feet per second [message #284932 is a reply to message #284794] |
Tue, 18 September 2007 03:20 |
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EvilWhiteDragon
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Well, I must say that in the town I lived for the last 13 years I haven't noticed any waste on public stuff, perhaps on burocracy, but that's not really checkable.
Also, I prefer my freedom of speech:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6930305,00.html
Auwtsch, so for the USA freedom of speech.
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| V, V for Vendetta |
People should not be afraid of their governments.
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