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So whats everyone think of vista so far?
talk about some experiences
i got ultimate
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Re: All about Vista... [message #278407 is a reply to message #278361] Sat, 11 August 2007 07:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Massive waste of money. XP can run ALL the so called *Vista only* Games...Micro$oft just made a installation check...Both games are based off DX9...So many security exploits...naa I'll wait.

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Re: All about Vista... [message #278409 is a reply to message #278361] Sat, 11 August 2007 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Had it on one pc, totally useless and very annoying. I love xp and I don't think i'll get it until it is completely fixed or you actually need it. XP > Vista for now.

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I got it for free through MSDNAA so I've been using it for about five months now. Can't complain really; I haven't had any problems.
Re: All about Vista... [message #278451 is a reply to message #278413] Sat, 11 August 2007 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mrpirate wrote on Sat, 11 August 2007 11:46

I got it for free through MSDNAA so I've been using it for about five months now. Can't complain really; I haven't had any problems.

same
cept i got it last week.
know of any good firewalls that actually work?
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Re: All about Vista... [message #278474 is a reply to message #278361] Sat, 11 August 2007 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Made me switch to OSX because it's the same thing only with Apple logos and less gay.

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Re: All about Vista... [message #278588 is a reply to message #278361] Sun, 12 August 2007 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just got a new lappy with Vista, and so far, there isn't much I've done that I couldn't do on XP, however I don't find Vista to be any worse either.

My one complaint is that Vista has dropped to the level of all those computer tards out there who barely know how to turn it on. They've reorganized stuff so that it looks neater to PC newbs, but I prefer the XP organizaion system- just straightforward folders and files.


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Re: All about Vista... [message #278591 is a reply to message #278361] Sun, 12 August 2007 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You should be able to get it look like XP, that's normally available in Windows (the ability to make it look like an older version)

I like the extra features Vista has, but I like XP, I'm not going to swap until I have to, or when I get a new PC.


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It seems to get pissy when you network via wires.

It has few options for wired connections to both the internet and other networks...

Then it's system of "Virtual" folders piss me off because some share the name with real folders. Fancy series of shortcuts that are entirely oversimplified for jackasses.

It seems like they've dumbed down too much. Not alot is different on the performance end from XP. Besides the obvious memory drains and new graphics...
Re: All about Vista... [message #278737 is a reply to message #278361] Sun, 12 August 2007 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have windows vista ultimate on my hp laptop and on my new desktop on a partition for newer games. Most of the complaints about vista come from idiots that A.)Installed it on a system well under the recommended spec. (512mb RAM Celeron Processor) or B.) Don't understand the simple concept of driver updates to comply with Vista's new architecture. I work at Best Buy in the computers area and what I typically hear is "I don't want that vista it is a piece of junk." I usually respond "Why, what gives you that idea?" I either get the response "UH I DUNNO LOL." or "Because that one ad said so." (refering to the Apple Mac ads.) Most people don't know shit about vista or realize that it is a neccessary move to force companies to stop making their slow 512mb Single Core machines and start making beefier machines for tommrow. So quit your bitching and get used to it, it isn't going away just like XP didn't go away. 6 years from now you'll be bitching that you don't want to buy a Windows blahblah machine. Get the fuck over yourselves.

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DarkDemin wrote on Mon, 13 August 2007 02:22

I have windows vista ultimate on my hp laptop and on my new desktop on a partition for newer games. Most of the complaints about vista come from idiots that A.)Installed it on a system well under the recommended spec. (512mb RAM Celeron Processor) or B.) Don't understand the simple concept of driver updates to comply with Vista's new architecture. I work at Best Buy in the computers area and what I typically hear is "I don't want that vista it is a piece of junk." I usually respond "Why, what gives you that idea?" I either get the response "UH I DUNNO LOL." or "Because that one ad said so." (refering to the Apple Mac ads.) Most people don't know shit about vista or realize that it is a neccessary move to force companies to stop making their slow 512mb Single Core machines and start making beefier machines for tommrow. So quit your bitching and get used to it, it isn't going away just like XP didn't go away. 6 years from now you'll be bitching that you don't want to buy a Windows blahblah machine. Get the fuck over yourselves.

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Re: All about Vista... [message #278759 is a reply to message #278361] Mon, 13 August 2007 01:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a Sempron64 3400+ with 1.5GB of RAM, 80GB of HDD and a GeForce 7600GT - more than capable of running it, no?
I tried installing it on a spare partition last month, but the nVidia driver was crap (hung every startup and had glitchy window borders), the UAC annoyed the hell out of me until I found out how to switch it off, the Virtual Folders did my head in, lots of my programs didn't work (at that time, iTunes support was rubbish, although I'm told it's better now), and all of my games ran a lot slower than they did in XP.
(Example: BF2142 with everything on full gets about 45-55fps in XP, 25-35 in Vista.)

These things are probably fixable, but I really don't see the point when XP works fine most of the time. So Vista remains sitting on my shelf.

And yes, OSX is better. Very Happy *runs away*
Re: All about Vista... [message #278773 is a reply to message #278361] Mon, 13 August 2007 04:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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itunes doesn't recognize my cd burner on vista
thats the only unsolvable problem I've had thus far.
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CarrierII wrote on Sun, 12 August 2007 19:47

You should be able to get it look like XP, that's normally available in Windows (the ability to make it look like an older version)



You can turn off all of the prettiness, revert the start menu back to classic and change the folder views back too. My other install of Vista looks a lot like XP.

SlikRik wrote on Sun, 12 August 2007 19:37


My one complaint is that Vista has dropped to the level of all those computer tards out there who barely know how to turn it on. They've reorganized stuff so that it looks neater to PC newbs, but I prefer the XP organizaion system- just straightforward folders and files.


Again, you can turn all of this off. Virtual folders aren't an issue - its just the same in UNIX.

Blast wrote on Mon, 13 August 2007 06:51

It seems to get pissy when you network via wires.

It has few options for wired connections to both the internet and other networks...

Then it's system of "Virtual" folders piss me off because some share the name with real folders. Fancy series of shortcuts that are entirely oversimplified for jackasses.

It seems like they've dumbed down too much. Not alot is different on the performance end from XP. Besides the obvious memory drains and new graphics...


I have wired connections and all is fine. The new network view seems a bit pointless however if you go into Network Connections the old options are there.

Again, I use the UNIX argument here- Ive used symbolic links for a long long time and it's just a different way of thinking that's all.

I installed Vista when it first came out (Ultimate edition) - this did seem to make a larger demand on my graphics card (an ATI 9800XT). I have just installed the Business Edition and all is well - even with all of the prettiness turned on.

In general I'm happy with Vista (I wasnt when it first came out). Im getting better transfer speeds across the net (I have no idea how that has happened) and so far everything is stable. The drivers for my hardware seem to have made everything a bit more responsive and I even get better frame rates in ren.


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Why is everyone defending that it ain't worse than XP? Why would I change then, if XP can do what Vista can do and I already paid for XP?

Most companies run with lower end machines simply cause they don't need high end ones. They won't get Vista if this means they need to upgrade to hardware that's superior to their needs...


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well
lol @ me for needing the newest shit Very Happy
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im prob not going to get vista untill microsoft stops supporting xp, which i heard will be the case in 4 years or something like that. or i might get vista when it goes down to 150$ mark since like goztow said why would i buy it if i already paid for xp and it does all the same shit as vista. (atleast at my level, which is to browse internet use office products and play games). and plus i already know it will make my computer lag like shit since all i got is.

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Re: All about Vista... [message #278917 is a reply to message #278737] Mon, 13 August 2007 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DarkDemin wrote on Mon, 13 August 2007 02:22

I have windows vista ultimate on my hp laptop and on my new desktop on a partition for newer games. Most of the complaints about vista come from idiots that A.)Installed it on a system well under the recommended spec. (512mb RAM Celeron Processor) or B.) Don't understand the simple concept of driver updates to comply with Vista's new architecture. I work at Best Buy in the computers area and what I typically hear is "I don't want that vista it is a piece of junk." I usually respond "Why, what gives you that idea?" I either get the response "UH I DUNNO LOL." or "Because that one ad said so." (refering to the Apple Mac ads.) Most people don't know shit about vista or realize that it is a neccessary move to force companies to stop making their slow 512mb Single Core machines and start making beefier machines for tommrow. So quit your bitching and get used to it, it isn't going away just like XP didn't go away. 6 years from now you'll be bitching that you don't want to buy a Windows blahblah machine. Get the fuck over yourselves.


Damn me for trying it on a "Vista-certified" machine!

Nvidia's drivers still have grave issues on Vista.

Apple's ads are stupid, yes (PC guy rocks tho).

Actually, make that three years, according to Microsoft, making the upgrade totally worthless - it reminds me of Windows ME.

lol @ "necessary move" - just shut up, AJ.

**I just bought a Vista-powered machine (Dell, and why turn down a free license?) and I'm installing OSX on it (I'm receiving a new 24" iMac tomorrow). :V

I'll be dual-booting on the iMac, but not on the laptop.


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Aprime wrote on Tue, 14 August 2007 00:31

DarkDemin wrote on Mon, 13 August 2007 02:22

I have windows vista ultimate on my hp laptop and on my new desktop on a partition for newer games. Most of the complaints about vista come from idiots that A.)Installed it on a system well under the recommended spec. (512mb RAM Celeron Processor) or B.) Don't understand the simple concept of driver updates to comply with Vista's new architecture. I work at Best Buy in the computers area and what I typically hear is "I don't want that vista it is a piece of junk." I usually respond "Why, what gives you that idea?" I either get the response "UH I DUNNO LOL." or "Because that one ad said so." (refering to the Apple Mac ads.) Most people don't know shit about vista or realize that it is a neccessary move to force companies to stop making their slow 512mb Single Core machines and start making beefier machines for tommrow. So quit your bitching and get used to it, it isn't going away just like XP didn't go away. 6 years from now you'll be bitching that you don't want to buy a Windows blahblah machine. Get the fuck over yourselves.


Damn me for trying it on a "Vista-certified" machine!

Nvidia's drivers still have grave issues on Vista.

Apple's ads are stupid, yes (PC guy rocks tho).

Actually, make that three years, according to Microsoft, making the upgrade totally worthless - it reminds me of Windows ME.

lol @ "necessary move" - just shut up, AJ.

**I just bought a Vista-powered machine (Dell, and why turn down a free license?) and I'm installing OSX on it (I'm receiving a new 24" iMac tomorrow). :V

I'll be dual-booting on the iMac, but not on the laptop.


This coming from a person who just bought a Dell and Mac.


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AmunRa wrote on Mon, 13 August 2007 08:16

itunes doesn't recognize my cd burner on vista
thats the only unsolvable problem I've had thus far.


That's Apple's problem, not Microsoft's. Most problems associated with Vista are the fault of companies that did a poor job developing their software for use with Vista.


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I was running a dual bot of vista ultimate and XP pro sp2, but M$hit finally patch a few holes, and my no-activation patch no longer works with windows update so....Also, a few drivers didnt work here and there, I would still prefer XP Pro>Vista for now that is, untill all the kinks are worked out (or another cracked patch comes out) In Love

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trooprm02 wrote on Tue, 14 August 2007 07:35

I was running a dual bot of vista ultimate and XP pro sp2, but M$hit finally patch a few holes, and my no-activation patch no longer works with windows update so....Also, a few drivers didnt work here and there, I would still prefer XP Pro>Vista for now that is, untill all the kinks are worked out (or another cracked patch comes out) In Love


Meh, Windows Update isn't that important. On XP anyway. People have had no Windows Updates for a while now because of WGA and all that crap. Personally, I haven't used Windows Update once since I reinstalled XP a year ago. I had to reinstall it because the old one broke after installing a Windows Update. How ironic.
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k, had another problem which ended up with me having to reinstall all over again.
apparently vista doesnt like dual video cards unless they match, so i had to start all over using xp drivers
meh pain
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Jonty wrote on Tue, 14 August 2007 03:24

trooprm02 wrote on Tue, 14 August 2007 07:35

I was running a dual bot of vista ultimate and XP pro sp2, but M$hit finally patch a few holes, and my no-activation patch no longer works with windows update so....Also, a few drivers didnt work here and there, I would still prefer XP Pro>Vista for now that is, untill all the kinks are worked out (or another cracked patch comes out) In Love


Meh, Windows Update isn't that important. On XP anyway. People have had no Windows Updates for a while now because of WGA and all that crap. Personally, I haven't used Windows Update once since I reinstalled XP a year ago. I had to reinstall it because the old one broke after installing a Windows Update. How ironic.



Heh - That happened to me as-well, Updated, Tryed to play some CS:S and it kept messing up, Then most of my games started not to work.

After a format and reinstall.. they worked perfectly, so no Windows Updates for me.


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