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Ok as I have mentioned in another thread I am building a new computer. Certain things have already been decided such as the memory, mobo, video card, power supply, and case.

I need the people with half a fucking brain to help me decide whether I should get a Core 2 Duo E6850 or a Q6600 Quad.

This system is being built for the Crysis Engine.


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Re: New Computer [message #276281 is a reply to message #276279] Tue, 31 July 2007 00:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, if you're planning to do several processor-intensive programs at one time often, you'll want to opt for the quad. If not, dual-core will be fine (it's also faster in this case).

Re: New Computer [message #276282 is a reply to message #276279] Tue, 31 July 2007 00:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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core 2 duo.
Re: New Computer [message #276283 is a reply to message #276279] Tue, 31 July 2007 00:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quad cores = servers (or maybe GFX processing, though a dual should be ok there already).

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Re: New Computer [message #276295 is a reply to message #276279] Tue, 31 July 2007 02:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dont bother going quad until theres more than one game that you play that actually supports it, or you need to render special effects for the next hollywood blockbuster while you play a game and record it with fraps.
Re: New Computer [message #276327 is a reply to message #276279] Tue, 31 July 2007 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just bought a quad. For the minor price difference it doesn't pay to get the duo.

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Re: New Computer [message #276340 is a reply to message #276279] Tue, 31 July 2007 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Eh, I'd rather have faster cores that I am using, than surplus slower cores that are idle Smile
Re: New Computer [message #276355 is a reply to message #276279] Tue, 31 July 2007 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I see your point but when your only talking a few hundred megahurtz and $50 it really doesn't matter. That and 4 cores is just cooler that 2 Big Grin

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Re: New Computer [message #276396 is a reply to message #276279] Tue, 31 July 2007 17:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can overclock the E5850 to 3.8ghz on stock cooling. I'll pass on the quads till the Yorkfield cores come out. My board I purchased supports both.

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Re: New Computer [message #276429 is a reply to message #276279] Tue, 31 July 2007 21:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just get the E6600 and overclock it, I wouldn't bother with the updated series nor paying that much more for performance I can get with a simple clock change (the higher FSB will give you a boost... of 1% (benchmarked, lulz) - it's simply not worth it).

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Re: New Computer [message #276499 is a reply to message #276279] Wed, 01 August 2007 06:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Niether. AMD has already outshot the core 2 duo cpu's with semi-old models. I recently built myself a new comp too, and its not worth the $$ to get a shitty cpu. Mine is the AMD Athlon 64 4000+ @ 2.5Ghz, out benchmarks most dual core cpu's, so got new mobo and took it.

Re: New Computer [message #276512 is a reply to message #276499] Wed, 01 August 2007 07:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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trooprm02 wrote on Wed, 01 August 2007 08:54

Niether. AMD has already outshot the core 2 duo cpu's with semi-old models. I recently built myself a new comp too, and its not worth the $$ to get a shitty cpu. Mine is the AMD Athlon 64 4000+ @ 2.5Ghz, out benchmarks most dual core cpu's, so got new mobo and took it.

lol? AMD has the worst CPU crashes AND they have low L2 Cache. Core 2 Duo has 2MB-4MB AMD has 1MB-2MB


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Re: New Computer [message #276515 is a reply to message #276499] Wed, 01 August 2007 07:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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trooprm02 wrote on Wed, 01 August 2007 09:54

Niether. AMD has already outshot the core 2 duo cpu's with semi-old models. I recently built myself a new comp too, and its not worth the $$ to get a shitty cpu. Mine is the AMD Athlon 64 4000+ @ 2.5Ghz, out benchmarks most dual core cpu's, so got new mobo and took it.


You don't have any fucking idea what you're talking about so shut up.
Re: New Computer [message #276520 is a reply to message #276512] Wed, 01 August 2007 08:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sadukar09 wrote on Wed, 01 August 2007 10:20

lol? AMD has the worst CPU crashes AND they have low L2 Cache. Core 2 Duo has 2MB-4MB AMD has 1MB-2MB
There's more to it than that. While I agree that the Core 2 CPUs are better than AMDs current offerings, especially if you're overclocking, it's not an apples to apples comparison. They're two different CPUs, two different cores, so you can't say it's better becuase it has more L2 cache. Look at the P4. The Prescott had 1MB cache vs the Northwood with 512k. The Northwood was slightly better. Remember when everyone thought the P4 was better than the Athlon line becuase it had a greater frequency? It's the same thing. There's so much more at work. The Core 2 is simply a better architecture. That's the real reason it's better. Comparing L2 cache and frequency ONLY works COMPLETELY if you compare it amongst CPUs of the same line.

If you're goin new, Intel is the way to go. If you already have an AM2 board and don't have the money to spend or care about overclocking, AMD is still a good choice. The 6000+ equals a E6600 (though the E6600 can be overclocked FAR better). They're going to roll out a 6400+ soon too, but that's only a 6000+ with an extra 200MHz. The Athlon line is at it's end, and AMD needs to come up with something new, but AMD still has it's place. It might not be first place, but overclockers and people with alot of money to spend on computers (i.e., enthusiasts) aren't the majority.


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Re: New Computer [message #276523 is a reply to message #276279] Wed, 01 August 2007 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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multi core = crap and slow
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Re: New Computer [message #276527 is a reply to message #276279] Wed, 01 August 2007 09:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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^ why the fuck do you people think you know what you're talking about?
Re: New Computer [message #276531 is a reply to message #276279] Wed, 01 August 2007 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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amd has the x2s which are the dual core... and there are 6000x2 which are awesome, i however am still enjoying my almost 2 yearold 4000, which is at 2.4ghz with not overclocking. which reminds me i prob will be buying more ram soon and overclocking it aswell. troop what kind of hardware do you have? since when we were playing yesterday you clearly had a hardware advantage over me... you moved out and back behind the wall b4 i could even see you let alone shoot. and we are both in canada so im just wondering...

i got 2x512mb ram in dual channel mode, athlon 4000 2.4mghz, ati 800xt and sata hd if that makes any diff
Re: New Computer [message #276552 is a reply to message #276279] Wed, 01 August 2007 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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romaner your flag says you are in US Neutral
Well no Athlon then there is always Opteron Very Happy


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DarkDemin wrote on Tue, 31 July 2007 02:32

Ok as I have mentioned in another thread I am building a new computer. Certain things have already been decided such as the memory, mobo, video card, power supply, and case.

I need the people with half a fucking brain to help me decide whether I should get a Core 2 Duo E6850 or a Q6600 Quad.

This system is being built for the Crysis Engine.


NOOOO! Wait and get a AMD Barcelona! They are gonna KICK ASS!
Also, 8800.



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Memphis wrote on Tue, 15 May 2007 03:54

...fatally die to death...


I don't know if you meant to do that, but triple redundancy for teh win. I LOL'ed.


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Viking, please stop mentioning your 8800, you're not the only one...


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Re: New Computer [message #276561 is a reply to message #276279] Wed, 01 August 2007 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was a die hard AMD fan and a die hard ATI fan for many years. Every computer I have owned has had those two components in it. However this one I just bought has neither. The simple fact is AMD can not compete with intel and will always be a step behind and a dollar more. I need the most bang for my buck I can get. Intel provides that. Plain and simple.

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sadukar09 wrote on Wed, 01 August 2007 13:24

romaner your flag says you are in US Neutral
Well no Athlon then there is always Opteron Very Happy



when i post from work it shows US flag since our server is located in US.... but im in Canada. and when i post from home it shows a canadian flag. its kinda funny i can post from work then post from home 10 mins later (i work really close to home) and its as if i went to different coutry


also isnt athlon better then opteron?
Re: New Computer [message #276566 is a reply to message #276279] Wed, 01 August 2007 13:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Opterons a Quad Core processor (though formerly dual core) for servers/workstations

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I am NOT going to stop posting that I have a 8800 because soon it is going to be out of date when the 9800 comes out. *cries*


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Crimson wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 05:22

Memphis wrote on Tue, 15 May 2007 03:54

...fatally die to death...


I don't know if you meant to do that, but triple redundancy for teh win. I LOL'ed.


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Re: New Computer [message #276632 is a reply to message #276279] Wed, 01 August 2007 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Well, nice to know the dumbasses have arrived. The next person that posts that single core proccesors are better is going to get kicked in the throat. In other news, I canceled my order for my 8800Ultra seeing as the 9800GTX is going to be the same price and 2x the power.

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