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how to be a good sniper [message #276284]

Tue, 31 July 2007 00:43

Deamond11
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hey all im a noob on these forums
youve probably faced me before on the jelly servers aow 1
lol but yeah i used to be a quite good sniper but i still get owned by godly snipers.
just wondering how you guys sniper do you use scope do you constantly move?
how do i get better im ok but im an easy target and sometime find it hard to aim.
im currently rank around the 140-150 with 17 recs so im not the worst player in the world.
so yeah if you can help that'll be great.

also if youve faced me before got any pointers for me or do i have anything i do well?

thanks all

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #276285 is a reply to message #276284]

Tue, 31 July 2007 00:45

Tunaman
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Practice. Play in sniper server vs. good snipers.. When you go back to the AOW game people will seem really easy to shoot.

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #276294 is a reply to message #276284]

Tue, 31 July 2007 01:59

Goztow
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Do you 'lag' a lot? On big serevrs you can easely get what's called 'FPS'-lag, because of the big amount of action/info. If your FPS is low, then you'll have more trouble aiming.

Anyway, Tuna is completely right.

The key is to keep moving in a rather unpredictable way while keeping a decent aim. The balance is found through practise.

I'd recommend you to train on snipe serevrs without rules that don't allow looping or that only allow you to go in tunnels as they won't learn you how to always be aware of hidden snipers and how to handle them + they are usually populated by "wall huggers" (people just sitting behind their wall and popping their rifle out to shoot).

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #276356 is a reply to message #276284]

Tue, 31 July 2007 14:01

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bunny hop :/ some n00b (a guy who wouldnt learn...) just stood still whole game shooting at people...needless to say he had 25+death while I bunny hopped and I joined like 10 min into the game and I got 25+ kills >_> and DO NOT snipe with Ramjet or you never will get better, start with the 500 Sniper.

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #276359 is a reply to message #276284]

Tue, 31 July 2007 14:04

Herr Surth
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1. Going to Ramjet or 500 is more a personal opinion. dont listen to anybody, just test out yourself which Sniper is better for you.

2. Dont Jump to much. An enemy can predict where you will fly. And it will screw your aiming, at least in my opinion.

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #276374 is a reply to message #276359]

Tue, 31 July 2007 15:20

BlueThen
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True it's a opinion on how are never start on ramjet, I say start on ramjet, to start out easy and such. Then move on to 500 snipers if you think you're up to it. Just an opinion.

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #276405 is a reply to message #276284]

Tue, 31 July 2007 18:29

Tunaman
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Just use what you are comfortable with. I generally use the 500 sniper because I'm more comfortable with it.

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #276471 is a reply to message #276284]

Wed, 01 August 2007 01:44

Deamond11
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thanks for the help but should i use scope etc and when you move around with scope are you running or walking lol it look so slow to run while useing it

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #276484 is a reply to message #276284]

Wed, 01 August 2007 04:42

Herr Surth
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When u use Scope, you are as fast as you would be with Walking. Due to a bug in Renegade, when you scope, both the Walk and the Run animation are seen which makes it a bit harder to aim for you.
Some sniperservers fixed that Issue however, mainly the ones with Renegade Resurrection.

[Updated on: Wed, 01 August 2007 04:43]

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #276532 is a reply to message #276284]

Wed, 01 August 2007 10:41

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if they dont know you are there by all means use the scope, but if you are seen by someone dont us eit because you need to be able to dodge... which is near impossible when in scope mode.

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #276533 is a reply to message #276284]

Wed, 01 August 2007 10:42

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unless you are aweful with freeview u should use that instead of scoping. that would fix your dodging issues

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #276590 is a reply to message #276284]

Wed, 01 August 2007 14:36

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I personally find that jumping lets me be lag killed, might just be my connection, might be Renegade's netcode.

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #276662 is a reply to message #276284]

Thu, 02 August 2007 01:34

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I constantly switch between scope and free myself, like inbetween every shot. That allows me to aim real quick then dodge right after I shoot. Also it's not always bad to take it slow sometimes, you can even crouch to become a small target. This will greatly increase your accuracy. Just don't do it too much at one time or the enemy will recognize it and likely hit you.

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #276761 is a reply to message #276662]

Thu, 02 August 2007 12:16

puddle_splasher
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IMHO if you cannot snipe, then don't. I can't, I don't. Blush

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Get a Med instead Big Ups

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #276882 is a reply to message #276761]

Thu, 02 August 2007 22:29

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[Updated on: Thu, 02 August 2007 22:43]

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #276888 is a reply to message #276761]

Fri, 03 August 2007 00:10

Goztow
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puddle_splasher wrote on Thu, 02 August 2007 21:16

IMHO if you cannot snipe, then don't. I can't, I don't. Blush

Blush

Get a Med instead Big Ups

Big Ups

While this may be true in public games (which applies here), in cw's or funwars it's important to be decent with every weapon in-game. You can have your specialties ofcourse, but there will always be times when you need to do something you're less good at.

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #276898 is a reply to message #276888]

Fri, 03 August 2007 01:56

Starbuzz
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How to be a good sniper?

Well, go to a server that allows spawn weapons/weapon drops and buy this guy:

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And then look for this guy:

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Kill him and get his gun which looks like this:

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And then you become the invisible god-sniper. With enough experience, you become "unkillable."

NO SERIOUSLY NOW:
If you really want to snipe like the pro's, play in a sniper server first. You might get killed a lot at first but don't get intimidated...just practice. Use the 3rd person view always.

Use 3rd person in tunnels like this; you can see around the corner...and you can pop out, make the shot or kill and pop back in to safety:

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x168/furypilot/ScreenShot03.png

In a sniper server, everything happens fast...you will die fast (many good snipers come to hone their skills there) and you will be swearing pretty fast too. But you will get adapted to it. It will improve your reflexes a lot. Practice a lot...then when you go to a regular All Out War server, you will feel really quick...you will be getting good kills.

As for the Ramjet vs Pierce sniper rifles, remember that both are deadly. Just pick the rifle that is comfortable to you and develop your skills from there. It's much harder to master the Pierce rifle but the Ramjet is much more easier to learn and get used to. You can make that decision. Remember, both rifles kick the ass.

MOVEMENTS & SCOPES

You must keep moving at all times (unless otherwise you are comfortably concealed!). If you are out in the open, then keep zig-zagging your way around...jump, run left, jump right and blah blah blah...just keep moving. Never walk in a straight line and always keep your rifle pointed toward the bad guys. Never turn your back on the enemy...or you will regret it.

As for scopes, they are meant to be used...so don't be afraid to use them. But it is wise to know when to use the scope. DO NOT use the scope in tunnels and inside builings. The best place to use scopes is when you are out in the field. As you practice and gain experience, you will find that the scope is pretty useless and you will be making kills at long range without zoom.

You must stay hidden too. And speed is key. Never get comfortable with the scope. Find a spot to hide, look for the enemy, zoom in using scope or just aim for their fat head without scope, make the shot and get the hell out of there. Just keep moving.

You will learn more tricks on your own as you play the game.

P.S. Goztow made an excellent point about FPS lag....they really can screw your aiming. Get a good computer and a good internet connection and use a good mouse. These things make the game more fun to play. It sucks that I only have a good mouse. My computer is trash; probably the reason why I gave up "visible" sniping and settled for the n00by SBH sniper job. Peace. Big Grin

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[Updated on: Fri, 03 August 2007 01:59]

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #276916 is a reply to message #276284]

Fri, 03 August 2007 04:03

Herr Surth
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While this may be true in public games (which applies here), in cw's or funwars it's important to be decent with every weapon in-game. You can have your specialties ofcourse, but there will always be times when you need to do something you're less good at.

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #277016 is a reply to message #276285]

Fri, 03 August 2007 17:50

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Tunaman wrote on Tue, 31 July 2007 02:45

Practice. Play in sniper server vs. good snipers.. When you go back to the AOW game people will seem really easy to shoot.

idk, I completly suck in Sniper servers but then I completly own in AOW servers when I am sniping.

But then I think most sniper servers how they limit you to the tunnle is just utter BS. and then they yell at you for looping and all this other dumb stuff. So i stopped playing in Sniper Servers because all it turned into was a bunch of wall hugging do nothing but body shot servers.

I love sniping on maps like Field and Islands (in the field) and under, Even Walls is fun to snipe on. and I have a nice hiding spot on Complex.

You need to figure out what you wanna be bast at because it works differently for different people, some people get better at sniping with sniper servers, some get better with AOW servers. I got good from AOW servers and Sniper servers that permit the field.

Plus for some reason it all depends what server I am in depends on how good I am.

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #277257 is a reply to message #276284]

Sun, 05 August 2007 09:00

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just something i noticed, if ur facing the person ur aiming at(and u wanna kill badly coz they just killed ur med), it wud be plain dumb to use ur forward and backwards keys coz to the enemy u wudnt seem to be moving much. *not in close combat situations*
so if u try to use left and right strafe keys instead, and of course the jump key, then u wud be a more difficult target, so less keys to hit while dodging and shooting
imo

these are the times when ur like why God WHY!!!???

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #277410 is a reply to message #277257]

Mon, 06 August 2007 02:36

puddle_splasher
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tigerback4014 wrote on Sun, 05 August 2007 11:00

*not in close combat situations*
so if u try to use left and right strafe keys instead, and of course the jump key, then u wud be a more difficult target, so less keys to hit while dodging and shooting
imo

Yeah right!!!!

Thats what I always do and occasionally I still get HS in the first shot. I am sure its B1ghead or A1mbot as opposed to good sniping. Where i will land or what I do is so unpredictable cause I don't even know where I am going. Angry

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #277662 is a reply to message #277410]

Mon, 06 August 2007 22:18

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Jumping makes you a bigger target.
Stick to crouching, and moving in decent lines side to side.
But DONT jump.

For me, it's easier to hit.

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #277684 is a reply to message #276284]

Tue, 07 August 2007 04:32

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Having a low ping between you and the game server seems to help a lot with Ren. If I play in an EU server things are good. If I play on a US server thing are not so good - I find I have to adjust my aim quite a bit. Its not a critism of the servers though - more of the game.

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #277688 is a reply to message #277684]

Tue, 07 August 2007 05:03

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3663Nixon wrote on Tue, 07 August 2007 13:32

Having a low ping between you and the game server seems to help a lot with Ren. If I play in an EU server things are good. If I play on a US server thing are not so good - I find I have to adjust my aim quite a bit. Its not a critism of the servers though - more of the game.

That's no game related problem. When phoning to a person at the other side of the world, u have the same problem.

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Re: how to be a good sniper [message #277693 is a reply to message #276284]

Tue, 07 August 2007 06:11

Herr Surth
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Of course it is - the Netcode sucks badly.

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