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Re: A challenge. [message #272946 is a reply to message #272944]

Fri, 13 July 2007 05:09

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3663Nixon wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 13:04

The Merovingian wrote on Wed, 06 June 2007 12:50

I think all anti-cheat stuff should be serverside, even though it is difficult, BIATCH does this already, and does it well. And since it's serverside it's unbypassable since the cheaters don't have access to the files.

Serverside apps are bypassable. If the "solution" is simply to deploy things on a server and think that's secure you are seriously misguided.

If you create something that runs on Windows, remember there are Linux hosts too. Im assuming this app has to run on Linux and Windows if server side?

Bypass BIATCH's damage protection and i will personally hand you a medal.

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Re: A challenge. [message #272951 is a reply to message #272944]

Fri, 13 July 2007 05:48

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3663Nixon wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 14:04

The Merovingian wrote on Wed, 06 June 2007 12:50

I think all anti-cheat stuff should be serverside, even though it is difficult, BIATCH does this already, and does it well. And since it's serverside it's unbypassable since the cheaters don't have access to the files.

Serverside apps are bypassable. If the "solution" is simply to deploy things on a server and think that's secure you are seriously misguided.

If you create something that runs on Windows, remember there are Linux hosts too. Im assuming this app has to run on Linux and Windows if server side?

What he means is that in order to hack/bypass BIATCH, you would need to hack the whole server. And there are not many ppl capable of doing such thing fortunately Smile

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Re: A challenge. [message #273007 is a reply to message #272692]

Fri, 13 July 2007 11:56

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Viva la Resistance!

Jerad Gray wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 09:17

If everyone has so many problems with America, why don't they do anything about it? Perhaps it is because they are also doing the same type of stuff, and just using America as a diversion. Or maybe it is even simpler, they are just lazy.

What, you want me to invent some weapon that vapourises all the Americans with an IQ under 120? Because that's a mighty fine idea to me.

I like the bash.org comment.
<xterm> The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

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Re: A challenge. [message #273033 is a reply to message #263561]

Fri, 13 July 2007 15:47

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hello, i'm new

this entire anti-cheat stuff is very interesting... a lot of reverse engineering has been done on renegade and i'm thinking- why go through all this trouble? if you're going to make something like renguard, you might as well re-make renegade and move as much stuff as you can from the client to the server so you dont have all these retarded hacks

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Re: A challenge. [message #273034 is a reply to message #263561]

Fri, 13 July 2007 15:56

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you might as well re-make renegade

...right

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Re: A challenge. [message #273035 is a reply to message #263561]

Fri, 13 July 2007 15:57

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lol, there is a team remaking renegade.

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Re: A challenge. [message #273036 is a reply to message #273034]

Fri, 13 July 2007 16:04

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Dave S. Anderson wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 17:56

Quote:

you might as well re-make renegade

...right

your name is familiar.. could you be the same man as http://bailopan.net ?

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Re: A challenge. [message #273037 is a reply to message #263561]

Fri, 13 July 2007 16:04

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Viva la Resistance!

It'S funny, cos one of the things keeping ren going all these years is how easy it is to mod, which means people can refresh their gaming experience by getting a good mod.

But this could have killed it too, as it is so easy to mod, even the dumbest of the dumb can make their own cheats since the program to do so is on westwoods FTP...

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Re: A challenge. [message #273043 is a reply to message #273036]

Fri, 13 July 2007 16:21

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do not want wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 17:04

Dave S. Anderson wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 17:56

Quote:

you might as well re-make renegade

...right

your name is familiar.. could you be the same man as http://bailopan.net ?

Nope. I run DCOM Productions .NET.

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Re: A challenge. [message #273044 is a reply to message #273043]

Fri, 13 July 2007 16:24

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Dave S. Anderson wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 18:21

do not want wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 17:04

Dave S. Anderson wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 17:56

Quote:

you might as well re-make renegade

...right

your name is familiar.. could you be the same man as http://bailopan.net ?

Nope. I run DCOM Productions .NET.

haha... the second pwnage I see today in the forums. LOL

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Re: A challenge. [message #273045 is a reply to message #273037]

Fri, 13 July 2007 16:28

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Ancient_and_forever wrote on Sat, 14 July 2007 00:04

But this could have killed it too, as it is so easy to mod, even the dumbest of the dumb can make their own cheats since the program to do so is on westwoods FTP...

Those cheats are picked up by BIATCH Smile

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Re: A challenge. [message #273046 is a reply to message #273044]

Fri, 13 July 2007 16:37

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Viva la Resistance!

BuzzOfTheStar wrote on Sat, 14 July 2007 00:24

Dave S. Anderson wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 18:21

do not want wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 17:04

Dave S. Anderson wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 17:56

Quote:

you might as well re-make renegade

...right

your name is familiar.. could you be the same man as http://bailopan.net ?

Nope. I run DCOM Productions .NET.

haha... the second pwnage I see today in the forums. LOL

How was that ownage?

A question was asked, and it was answered, it isn't ownage... Huh

Huh

This is a signature. Reading this is wasting your time.

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Re: A challenge. [message #273048 is a reply to message #273046]

Fri, 13 July 2007 16:44

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Wtf is Jabber? Rofl.

Ancient_and_forever wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 18:37

BuzzOfTheStar wrote on Sat, 14 July 2007 00:24

Dave S. Anderson wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 18:21

do not want wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 17:04

Dave S. Anderson wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 17:56

Quote:

you might as well re-make renegade

...right

your name is familiar.. could you be the same man as http://bailopan.net ?

Nope. I run DCOM Productions .NET.

haha... the second pwnage I see today in the forums. LOL

How was that ownage?

A question was asked, and it was answered, it isn't ownage... Huh

Huh

+1 Agree.

Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.

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Re: A challenge. [message #273050 is a reply to message #263561]

Fri, 13 July 2007 16:57

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haha... the second pwnage I see today in the forums. LOL

Yeah, I don't see where you pulled "pwnage" from in this case.

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Re: A challenge. [message #273061 is a reply to message #272946]

Fri, 13 July 2007 17:51

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RoShamBo wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 08:09

Bypass BIATCH's damage protection and i will personally hand you a medal.

Unfortunately, that's pretty easy.. Sad

Sad

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Re: A challenge. [message #273063 is a reply to message #273061]

Fri, 13 July 2007 18:00

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Tunaman wrote on Sat, 14 July 2007 01:51

RoShamBo wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 08:09

Bypass BIATCH's damage protection and i will personally hand you a medal.

Unfortunately, that's pretty easy.. Sad

Sad

The hell it is, go on, bypass it.

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Re: A challenge. [message #273069 is a reply to message #273050]

Fri, 13 July 2007 19:43

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Dave S. Anderson wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 18:57

Quote:

haha... the second pwnage I see today in the forums. LOL

Yeah, I don't see where you pulled "pwnage" from in this case.

Ya...I guess I got pwned.

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Re: A challenge. [message #273133 is a reply to message #273063]

Sat, 14 July 2007 05:57

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RoShamBo wrote on Sat, 14 July 2007 02:00

Tunaman wrote on Sat, 14 July 2007 01:51

RoShamBo wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 08:09

Bypass BIATCH's damage protection and i will personally hand you a medal.

Unfortunately, that's pretty easy.. Sad

Sad

The hell it is, go on, bypass it.

To actually bypass it, is near impossible but to use cheats that it can't detect/block is another thing, this is what I think he is pointing towards. BITACH as most people know doesn't block all DMG Hacks but I hear its coming very close to blocking all objects.dbb cheats.

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Re: A challenge. [message #273345 is a reply to message #273007]

Sun, 15 July 2007 06:54

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Jonty wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 12:56

Jerad Gray wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 09:17

If everyone has so many problems with America, why don't they do anything about it? Perhaps it is because they are also doing the same type of stuff, and just using America as a diversion. Or maybe it is even simpler, they are just lazy.

What, you want me to invent some weapon that vapourises all the Americans with an IQ under 120? Because that's a mighty fine idea to me.

I like the bash.org comment.
<xterm> The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

Because then they would get confused and kill everyone else on accident. Just get rid of everyone with an IQ under 120.

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Re: A challenge. [message #314778 is a reply to message #263561]

Thu, 31 January 2008 08:58

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My team is working towards an anticheat. I don't really care about this challenge per say but I do like to know if you guys have any ideas / suggestions / hints on how to detect rg-h.

Please reply only if you a decent answer or if you know how rg-h works (internals). Don't tell me to check for rg-h.exe :\

And yes I have some idea on how much effort it must have taken to get rg off the ground.

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Re: A challenge. [message #314792 is a reply to message #263561]

Thu, 31 January 2008 10:37

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LOL - necropost up.

I'm the bawss.

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Re: A challenge. [message #314863 is a reply to message #314792]

Thu, 31 January 2008 17:03

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neofmat wrote on Thu, 31 January 2008 16:58

Please reply only if you a decent answer...

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Crimson wrote on Thu, 31 January 2008 11:37

LOL - necropost up.

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Typical

So instead of starting yet another topic, he revived the most relevant one. You can LOL at it, or credit him for searching the forums...

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Re: A challenge. [message #314866 is a reply to message #273034]

Thu, 31 January 2008 18:04

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Dave Anderson wrote on Fri, 13 July 2007 18:56

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you might as well re-make renegade

...right

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Re: A challenge. [message #314867 is a reply to message #263561]

Thu, 31 January 2008 18:09

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Thank you for the very helpful replies.

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Re: A challenge. [message #314869 is a reply to message #263561]

Thu, 31 January 2008 18:27

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I find it funny that when people create new topics asking a familiar question, we insult and degrade them for not using the Search function. But when they do use it, and they find a relevant topic and post their reply in there instead, we make fun of them for necroposting and reviving.

Shit irony.

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