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| Re: erikboxem [message #272554 is a reply to message #272082] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 10:50   |
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If he DID leave and his story checks out, two questions still remain: why did he have the cheat on his computer in the first place, and why did he feel that it was his job to find the cheater on someone ELSE's server without their permission?
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The community war was hosted on our server not Gamerz0ne.
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272562 is a reply to message #272082] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 11:39 |
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In order to combat cheats u have to understand them, you can moderate better if you understand a cheat and how it works, you can spot cheats easier if you know how they work.
ONCE again i shall say. I have full confidence and respect for Erikboxem he has helped create a great server and has helped create a great community, he douse NOT cheat or use cheats in any way except from to help enhance every renegader's gaming experience, he used *cheat name removed* once to detect a cheater ONLY, he used cheats before in a private server to understand them.
HE NEVER HAS USED CHEATS IN A MALICIOUS WAY.
HE NEVER WILL USE CHEATS IN A MALICIOUS WAY.
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272564 is a reply to message #272082] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 11:48 |
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In order to combat cheats u have to understand them, you can moderate better if you understand a cheat and how it works, you can spot cheats easier if you know how they work.
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Yay! Lets test cheats in cws and funwars!
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ONCE again i shall say. I have full confidence and respect for Erikboxem he has helped create a great server and has helped create a great community, he douse NOT cheat or use cheats in any way except from to help enhance every renegader's gaming experience, he used *cheat name removed*once to detect a cheater ONLY, he used cheats before in a private server to understand them.
HE NEVER HAS USED CHEATS IN A MALICIOUS WAY.
HE NEVER WILL USE CHEATS IN A MALICIOUS WAY.
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Is he some kind of god for you, or why do you trust him so blindly?
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272572 is a reply to message #272082] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 12:06 |
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i love how people go all spazzing on stuff like this is so funny.
i love how people on the renegdae forums act so stupid half the time.
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272574 is a reply to message #272572] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 12:12 |
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| kikiller wrote on Wed, 11 July 2007 13:06 |
i love how people go all spazzing on stuff like this is so funny.
i love how people on the renegdae forums act so stupid half the time.
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there is now a term for it.... renedrama, or renerage lol.
this thread has no more point or meaning left in it untill the logs are posted. all it is now is a insult throwing contest. so why wont everyone just calm down and chill out till the logs are posted here
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272578 is a reply to message #272082] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 12:24 |
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QoQnoob you could of dicussed this in a mature way and keep within your community but you didnt. you had to go out and say it to everyone and point fingers immeadately. I bet you feel like a badass now because you posted this. Also i was with erik in st0rm he was cool and i doubt he would cheat.
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272589 is a reply to message #272562] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 13:18 |
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| DG abothered wrote on Wed, 11 July 2007 19:39 |
In order to combat cheats u have to understand them, you can moderate better if you understand a cheat and how it works, you can spot cheats easier if you know how they work.
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I agree, if you know how a cheat works, you can catch cheaters easily...but it is still wrong to use cheats to catch a cheater...especially since he didn't ask for permission
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ONCE again i shall say. I have full confidence and respect for Erikboxem he has helped create a great server and has helped create a great community, he douse NOT cheat or use cheats in any way except from to help enhance every renegader's gaming experience, he used R G H once to detect a cheater ONLY, he used cheats before in a private server to understand them.
HE NEVER HAS USED CHEATS IN A MALICIOUS WAY.
HE NEVER WILL USE CHEATS IN A MALICIOUS WAY.
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You contradict the point of this thread completely there.
You say he dosn't cheat, yet the first post shows clear evidence of him doing this. Your exception is a moot point, since:
A: He shouldn't use that to bypass RG since it is against the agreement
B: If he honestly believed he was using these for a noble purpose, then why bypass RG? After all, if he knew it was noble, he wouldn't have tried to hide it
C: How can using a cheat in the middle of a funwar possibly enhance players' gameplay? IF he was using cheats to find out how to detect it, everyone will have known he was cheating, and it will have been a small, private server, or he'd have used them on singleplayer mode...
There is no way you can defend him for this, and your blind faith in him shows how gullible you are...
This is a signature. Reading this is wasting your time.
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272590 is a reply to message #272082] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 13:21 |
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There is no non-malicious way to use cheats. If there were BHS would put them into Rnguard.
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272597 is a reply to message #272595] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 13:57 |
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| Caveman wrote on Wed, 11 July 2007 21:47 |
Funny how my questions are getting ignored, how rude. The amount of people in here that can't actually read a post and reply decently is amazing.
If y'all wish to defend this bloke then thats your right. But don't expect others to agree with you especially when you cannot answer a couple of questions. You have yet to make a valid point to why he was using *cheat name removed*in a funwar. If you say well he used it because he was trying to find a cheat then answer my fucking questions. Would you like me to quote myself yet again?
If he wants to test cheats so he can understand them better and discover new ways to detect them then its easy. GET A PRIVATE LOCKED SERVER. That way you don't spoil someone elses game by cheating. Also, you say that he never used *cheat name removed*in a bad way yet the screenshot clearly shows that he had the EPS/ESP/Whatever its called turned on. (The players names showing up through the walls) I'm 99% sure that thats not turned on by default. So would you also mind explaining that?
Good day.
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That's what I did, on the Xphaze forums, in the staff section, there is topic on how to conduct a test (or was a topic), in that topic is a screenshot of me, using *cough*. it was in a server I hosted for one other member of staff to make the tutorial. Anyways...
Did anyone here know that when you use wall hacks, your shadow goes through walls?!
On topic - There's no excuse, the evidence is public. Do yourselves (the DG community) a favour and leave, before your reputations go down too.
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the hell is that?
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272602 is a reply to message #272082] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 14:05 |
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erik use those cheats only on a private server
the logs, that Mincus35 spoke of, isn't in his possesion
anymore questions to anwser????????
i've got something to say about this problem:
imagin that you are using a cheat to caught a cheater, but it get exposed that you cheat at a funwar, and you'r completely banned from the renegade community(all servers and programms)
how do you feel???
erik has guilt fellings so what kind of feelings would you have??
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272614 is a reply to message #272578] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 14:44 |
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| kikiller wrote on Wed, 11 July 2007 14:24 |
QoQnoob you could of dicussed this in a mature way and keep within your community but you didnt. you had to go out and say it to everyone and point fingers immeadately. I bet you feel like a badass now because you posted this. Also i was with erik in st0rm he was cool and i doubt he would cheat.
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Don't say things before you know the hole story..... this includes Commandosky about the logs ( he has them, seriously ). We have reasons why we posted this, firstly cause after the event, A mod which im not gonna name ( until he agrees ) said they would deal with it, but they just defended erik and didn't released any info, like it never happened, so 'denying' it ( on a informatic way ) so we decided to publish it ( which Duke Gaming DIDNT wanted ) and to show it, and we don't pretend to be a badass showing this, its just showing the truth.
'I doubt he would cheat'
This topic proofs he did, he did cheated once ( or more ).
'imagin that you are using a cheat to caught a cheater, but it get exposed that you cheat at a funwar, and you'r completely banned from the renegade community(all servers and programms)'
DONT cheat then, catching cheaters with cheats is like catching yourself, its your bloody own fault you cheated, so the first thing is not to cheat! ( the thing is that he cheated in a community war, if he has cheats on on multiplayer practice or some private server of DG with onlu DG guys knowing he cheats ( testing it maybe ) i woudnt mind, but he used them in a community war ) and if you do, just feel the consequences.
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272615 is a reply to message #272602] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 14:49 |
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| Commandosky wrote on Wed, 11 July 2007 17:05 |
erik use those cheats only on a private server
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Since when is a Community War a private server?
| Commandosky wrote on Wed, 11 July 2007 17:05 |
the logs, that Mincus35 spoke of, isn't in his possesion
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Yes he does, and as soon as he wakes up (seeing as he is my brother), I will be happy to go over to his computer, log on it, and post them to shut your face up.
| Commandosky wrote on Wed, 11 July 2007 17:05 |
anymore questions to anwser????????
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Are you retarded, or is this just a special occasion?
| Commandosky wrote on Wed, 11 July 2007 17:05 |
i've got something to say about this problem:
imagin that you are using a cheat to caught a cheater, but it get exposed that you cheat at a funwar, and you'r completely banned from the renegade community(all servers and programms)
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Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
| Commandosky wrote on Wed, 11 July 2007 17:05 |
how do you feel???
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I feel great catching cheaters.
| Commandosky wrote on Wed, 11 July 2007 17:05 |
erik has guilt fellings so what kind of feelings would you have??
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I just posted mine, hope you can read.
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272624 is a reply to message #272617] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 15:27 |
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| RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 11 July 2007 22:53 |
You NEVER need cheats to detect cheats. Simple as that.
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Moral of the thread summed up in one line...
This is a signature. Reading this is wasting your time.
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272656 is a reply to message #272082] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 18:13 |
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Look here is how I see it, Erik turned this cheat on to look for cheaters. I don't condone what Erik did, I think he is telling the truth. after all we are only human and we ALL make mistakes. I think you should all stop with your accusations until we see the irc logs!I can see your point of view and I respect that it is your view, so please respect ours!
If someone is German, how can you criticize them for not speaking good English? It is outrages, I'm sure you don't speak excellent German! at least he has made the effort to speak English!
Greets, Dan.
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272657 is a reply to message #272602] |
Wed, 11 July 2007 18:19 |
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| Commandosky wrote on Wed, 11 July 2007 16:05 |
erik use those cheats only on a private server
the logs, that Mincus35 spoke of, isn't in his possesion
anymore questions to anwser????????
i've got something to say about this problem:
imagin that you are using a cheat to caught a cheater, but it get exposed that you cheat at a funwar, and you'r completely banned from the renegade community(all servers and programms)
how do you feel???
erik has guilt fellings so what kind of feelings would you have??
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Plain and simple fact is, he used it in a funwar/clanwar or whatever you wanna call it, if he was on clanwars.cc, this wouldnt even be a damn issue, his ass would be banned the second this ss came to light.
erik shouldnt have guilt feelings, he knew what he was doing,a nd he was just ignorant enough to post the ss. Secondly, lets say he did catch this cheater, whats he gonna use as evidence? Well I caught you by turning on *cheat name removed*and using esp mode to see who had what character blah blah, Like thats really gonna hold up well, a cheater to catch a cheater, thats the most retarded thing Ive ever heard of.
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