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Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State [message #272228 is a reply to message #272005]

Tue, 10 July 2007 09:57

warranto
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Heh, sorry... lots of incomplete thoughts there. That's what you get for trying to answer questions in the middle of working.

"Liberty or death" is a joke because EVERYONE gives up some liberty by choice, whether they are aware of it or not. The second the government enacts any type of law, a liberty is eroded. Be it to prevent businesses lying to their shareholders, prevent murder from occurring, or to be able to locate someone at a given point and time. The concept of it is fine, but in practice it doesn't hold up.

"Privacy" being an essential freedom is correct, however you give up that freedom the moment you open a window or walk outside, or anywhere else someone can see you. That's all this does, with a lot less information than someone in visual range.

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		Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: cheesesoda on Mon, 09 July 2007 14:50
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: Dave Anderson on Mon, 09 July 2007 15:16
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: jnz on Mon, 09 July 2007 15:38
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: cheesesoda on Mon, 09 July 2007 15:49
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: Romaner on Mon, 09 July 2007 15:56
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: z310 on Mon, 09 July 2007 16:10
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: Canadacdn on Mon, 09 July 2007 16:51
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: Starbuzz on Mon, 09 July 2007 20:11
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: Sir Kane on Tue, 10 July 2007 06:57
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: cheesesoda on Mon, 09 July 2007 20:21
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: Starbuzz on Mon, 09 July 2007 21:56
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: cheesesoda on Tue, 10 July 2007 06:30
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: Jecht on Tue, 10 July 2007 04:14
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: warranto on Tue, 10 July 2007 06:58
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: cheesesoda on Tue, 10 July 2007 07:30
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: warranto on Tue, 10 July 2007 07:42
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: cheesesoda on Tue, 10 July 2007 07:52
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: Ghostshaw on Tue, 10 July 2007 08:01
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: Jimbo27 on Sun, 19 August 2007 23:40
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: cheesesoda on Tue, 10 July 2007 08:13
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: warranto on Tue, 10 July 2007 08:42
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: Blazer on Sun, 22 July 2007 17:03
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: cheesesoda on Tue, 10 July 2007 08:58
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: warranto on Tue, 10 July 2007 09:57
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: cheesesoda on Tue, 10 July 2007 10:22
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: flyingfox on Tue, 10 July 2007 10:20
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: kikiller on Wed, 22 August 2007 18:04
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: cheesesoda on Wed, 22 August 2007 18:51
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: cheesesoda on Tue, 10 July 2007 19:51
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: DarkDemin on Tue, 10 July 2007 20:17
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: cheesesoda on Tue, 10 July 2007 20:46
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: Memphis on Wed, 11 July 2007 04:38
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: warranto on Wed, 11 July 2007 08:54
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: futura83 on Wed, 11 July 2007 10:07
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: warranto on Wed, 11 July 2007 10:14
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: Jecht on Thu, 12 July 2007 06:49
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: futura83 on Thu, 12 July 2007 08:06
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: warranto on Thu, 12 July 2007 10:07
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: Tankkiller on Mon, 16 July 2007 13:12
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: futura83 on Mon, 16 July 2007 13:28
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: ron paul on Tue, 17 July 2007 08:34
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: Jamie or NuneGa on Mon, 16 July 2007 15:38
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: z310 on Wed, 18 July 2007 18:42
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: Jecht on Thu, 19 July 2007 05:45
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: cheesesoda on Sun, 22 July 2007 20:58
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: Canadacdn on Mon, 23 July 2007 19:32
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: PlastoJoe on Tue, 21 August 2007 05:51
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: cheesesoda on Fri, 17 August 2007 08:12
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: Starbuzz on Fri, 17 August 2007 10:27
		Re: Real ID Act and the Threat of a Police State By: nikki6ixx on Fri, 17 August 2007 11:19
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