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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #277985 is a reply to message #255606] |
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| RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 25 April 2007 07:00 |
What is the meaning of life? What is our purpose? Why are we here? Is everything purely religion? Or was our existence just a massive chance and we should consider ourselves very lucky to be here? Discuss...
If you have an opinion please don't try and force/persuade it on someone.
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There is no meaning to life. We weren't "put" here for a "reason" because if that is the case, who was it who "put" us here and what is their meaning to life?
It is an endless cycle thinking of it that way. There truly is no true meaning to life, it is simply we ended up here because of some fortunate events that lead to the sustainment of life. Although some could argue that the meaning to our life is to sustain our life, to keep moving forward and keep living.
And religion.. God/gods were created by us because all seemed lost at one point in time. These questions overwhelmed the people and they sought an answer, so they relied on something like God to turn to.
Basically God is a psychological being within our (Or those who haven't realized this) minds. He is just a simple go to for answers kind of thing.
For example, if you were given the power to start your own world, with nothing but blank space and no limitations... what would you create? There would be no one to help, no one to turn to for answers, just you. What would you do? Would you model your own world after this one? Or would you make something completely new? Or would you just be baffled at what you should do? Would it be hard?
So what if you had limitations? Maybe something like having Ground to walk on. Would that make it easier? Instead of making a whole world freely from scratch, you would now be heavily bound to the limitations set.
If I am right, then it should definitely be much easier to create within limitations, rather than have nothing and turn it into something without limitations freely without help.
Wow.. I drifted off <_< anyway, yes, so God is the one we made to turn to for help when we didn't know of what we were supposed to do. It is from this greedy creation that sprung forth different religions. Which today still plague the world and for ever threaten our "meaning" to live, to keep on living.
So my opinion is simply, if we had no religion, life would be better off, but yet people would be confused to what should be going on. It is a vicious cycle, but one that can hopefully be cleared up.
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #278009 is a reply to message #255606] |
Thu, 09 August 2007 06:11 |
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I've never turned to anyone for help. I am very much a "rely on yourself" type of person.... heck, I've never even had someone I looked up to; no "hero" of sorts.
Yet, I believe there is a God. I agree that some people use God as an excuse for many things, but it does not negate the idea that God may exist.
I have no reason to turn to God for assistance of any sort, nor do I believe he'll have reason to help me (but then again, I also believe no one, divine or not, would want to help me), so by your definition, I should not believe a God exists.
Yet, I do...
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #278018 is a reply to message #278009] |
Thu, 09 August 2007 07:23 |
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So, you atheists, who do you think Jesus was? Just some random guy who thought it would be cool to tell people he was the son of God? And out of pure coincidence he was born from a virgin? And he believed in himself so much that he healed people? And out of luck died and came back from the dead? The reason God doesn't want people to know muh about him is because he wants us to have faith in him even without us knowing about him. It'll all be explained up in heaven, I'm sure. And, what I think, I think anybody can go to heaven even if you believe in some other god. It say he is very forgiving, so he should just judge on how well you live your life. I think he does just that.
And for me: I turn to God for help every day.
And as for razorblade saying that the world is better off without religion is total BS. There may be wars about religion, but if there were none people would go crazy and start more wars because they aren't afraid of somebody punishing them in the after life.
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #278063 is a reply to message #278009] |
Thu, 09 August 2007 12:17 |
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| warranto wrote on Thu, 09 August 2007 09:11 |
I've never turned to anyone for help. I am very much a "rely on yourself" type of person.... heck, I've never even had someone I looked up to; no "hero" of sorts.
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I said "people at one time" for a reason.
Basically nowadays it doesn't matter if God exists at all, because there is more of a reason to get out of bed in the morning then there used to be. Tell me, if it was the 1600s, and your entire town had been destroyed, and you where the only surviver, and you were only 10 years old. What would you do? Can you still say that your a "rely on yourself" kind of person?
@ Sn1per74, Jesus was a smart man. He wasn't insane and he wasn't some random dude to wake up and say "Hey, I am going to say I'm God today"
He simply saw the horrors of the world and what the world was like without a reference or any sort of help. So he explained to people to live for something and they will get something.
Does it really matter if he is wrong? It gives people a purpose to keep moving forward. Doesn't matter if God exists or not, he was smart the way he handled it.
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #278138 is a reply to message #278031] |
Thu, 09 August 2007 18:34 |
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| Reborn wrote on Thu, 09 August 2007 23:14 |
The meaning of life is to achieve freedom from suffering.
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Woohoo! Buddhism ftw.
There is no meaning to life.
Go on, go be emo and kill yourself.
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #278219 is a reply to message #278138] |
Fri, 10 August 2007 08:13 |
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| Sn1per74* wrote on Thu, 09 August 2007 11:41 |
| Reborn wrote on Thu, 09 August 2007 10:14 |
The meaning of life is to achieve freedom from suffering.
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I like that one.
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I prefer Buddhism as opposed to Christianity because the school of thought in Christian beliefs is very much one of a human exceptionalism, and clings to an un-darwin belief.
I prefer compassion to all sentient beings.
There is most likely some bible quote saying be nice to animals..
But at the heart of Christianity in the book of Genesis it really underlines the Christian stand point, saying that animals are to serve God, as man is to serve him.
| mrpirate wrote on Thu, 09 August 2007 11:47 |
| Reborn wrote on Thu, 09 August 2007 11:14 |
The meaning of life is to achieve freedom from suffering.
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a worthwhile aim, but I don't see what it has to do with life's "meaning"
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Suffering is part of human life. Realising this is the first truth.
Freedom from it is the meaning of life, true enlightenment.
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #278230 is a reply to message #278227] |
Fri, 10 August 2007 08:24 |
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| NuNeGa wrote on Fri, 10 August 2007 11:22 |
the meaning of life is to discover the meaning of life... that should confuse ya
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Not confuse, it's just very much open to interpretation.
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #278233 is a reply to message #278219] |
Fri, 10 August 2007 08:47 |
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| Reborn wrote on Fri, 10 August 2007 11:13 |
| mrpirate wrote on Thu, 09 August 2007 11:47 |
| Reborn wrote on Thu, 09 August 2007 11:14 |
The meaning of life is to achieve freedom from suffering.
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a worthwhile aim, but I don't see what it has to do with life's "meaning"
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Suffering is part of human life. Realising this is the first truth.
Freedom from it is the meaning of life, true enlightenment.
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I'm not a buddhist, so I don't see the relevance; obviously suffering is a part of human life, but whether or not you overcome it you die, and as far as I'm concerned that's it, so it doesn't matter.
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #278248 is a reply to message #278233] |
Fri, 10 August 2007 09:50 |
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I'm sure God wouldn't want you to NOT be nice to animals. He even says that when Jesus comes back he'll be riding down on a chariot with 2 white horses or something of that sort.
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #278271 is a reply to message #278252] |
Fri, 10 August 2007 10:51 |
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| mrpirate wrote on Fri, 10 August 2007 11:47 |
| Reborn wrote on Fri, 10 August 2007 11:13 |
| mrpirate wrote on Thu, 09 August 2007 11:47 |
| Reborn wrote on Thu, 09 August 2007 11:14 |
The meaning of life is to achieve freedom from suffering.
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a worthwhile aim, but I don't see what it has to do with life's "meaning"
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Suffering is part of human life. Realising this is the first truth.
Freedom from it is the meaning of life, true enlightenment.
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I'm not a buddhist, so I don't see the relevance; obviously suffering is a part of human life, but whether or not you overcome it you die, and as far as I'm concerned that's it, so it doesn't matter.
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Whether you're Buddhist or not is irrelevant, gaining freedom from suffering and true enlightenment is not only the meaning of life, but the meaning of life, death and rebirth... No one truely dies. You're constantly "reborn".
| Sn1per74* wrote on Fri, 10 August 2007 12:50 |
I'm sure God wouldn't want you to NOT be nice to animals. He even says that when Jesus comes back he'll be riding down on a chariot with 2 white horses or something of that sort.
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Sure he doesn't want you to be cruel to animals. But there life is still considered to be less, they're never going to evolve and get into heaven, they don't have a chance at all. They are here to serve. Hence why he will be riding them... He didn't say he will be sitting on the backs of humans...
It's just that darn human exceptionalism that gets me everytime.
| mrpirate wrote on Fri, 10 August 2007 12:57 |
fuck that.
I demand equal horse colour representation
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Ah man, that made me laugh on so many levels...
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