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For the past godamn week, that POS anti-cheat program Rengaurd has annoyed the fuck outta me FOR THE LAST TIME! I am constantly (every match and a godamn half) getting auto kicked for not running RG, along with several other players! When it kicks me, it doesnt tell me that i need RG to play on this erver, no, it kicks me as if a game host evicts me, and i STRONGLY reccomend you fix this fucking thing before you loose ALOT of players on n00bstories and Renegade altogether, WTF should we run an anti-cheat- program that doesnt function correctly, this is NOT fair to all the legit players in the Renegade Community, im sorry... Sneaky

(picked the wrong area to post, plz move it to RG threads)

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258336 is a reply to message #258330] Sat, 12 May 2007 09:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Valherran wrote on Sat, 12 May 2007 10:35

For the past godamn week, that POS anti-cheat program Rengaurd has annoyed the fuck outta me FOR THE LAST TIME! I am constantly (every match and a godamn half) getting auto kicked for not running RG, along with several other players! When it kicks me, it doesnt tell me that i need RG to play on this erver, no, it kicks me as if a game host evicts me, and i STRONGLY reccomend you fix this fucking thing before you loose ALOT of players on n00bstories and Renegade altogether, WTF should we run an anti-cheat- program that doesnt function correctly, this is NOT fair to all the legit players in the Renegade Community, im sorry... Sneaky

(picked the wrong area to post, plz move it to RG threads)


The Renegade Community eagerly awaits your Renguard substitute, as you clearly know more than they do.

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258428 is a reply to message #258330] Sun, 13 May 2007 02:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So how long will it be before this wretched thing is perfected or replaced?

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258429 is a reply to message #258330] Sun, 13 May 2007 03:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well if you get BSH a skilled team of say 20 full-time coders somewhere next week should be do able. So when can we expect them?

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258445 is a reply to message #258330] Sun, 13 May 2007 06:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmmm...20 eh? *makes some calls*

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258448 is a reply to message #258330] Sun, 13 May 2007 06:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They should definitly not get me.. I hate programming Huh

For the record: It's a program and every program has it's bugs and flaws, these people don't get paid for this and they have lifes too you know.

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258529 is a reply to message #258330] Sun, 13 May 2007 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This program has TOO MANY bugs and flaws, most of the bugs and flaws could have been fixed by now and arent...

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258537 is a reply to message #258330] Sun, 13 May 2007 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am also eagerly awaiting your personal anti-cheat solution, it must be really great if you can come here and bitch about RenGuard

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258561 is a reply to message #258537] Sun, 13 May 2007 18:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You are probably using the beta version?

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258599 is a reply to message #258330] Mon, 14 May 2007 04:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am using whatever latest version came out.

@danpaul88: Not my fault the damn thing is bugged!

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258602 is a reply to message #258330] Mon, 14 May 2007 05:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But, unless -you- (and people you know) can create a superior anti-cheat solution, you'll have to put up with it, like the rest of us.

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258611 is a reply to message #258330] Mon, 14 May 2007 07:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Now your starting to make me wonder how many people are actually working on RG, several of my friends quit playing renegade because A: All the good servers require you to run it, and B: they CANT run it. When Renegade 2 comes out, wtf are you going to do about that one? Plz share...

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258641 is a reply to message #258611] Mon, 14 May 2007 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Valherran wrote on Mon, 14 May 2007 09:19

Now your starting to make me wonder how many people are actually working on RG, several of my friends quit playing renegade because A: All the good servers require you to run it, and B: they CANT run it. When Renegade 2 comes out, wtf are you going to do about that one? Plz share...


1) RG 1.0322 DOES NOT HAVE ANY ISSUES ON ANY SYSTEM WHATSOEVER, THEREFORE THEY HAVE NO, I REPEAT, NO EXCUSE TO NOT RUN IT.

2) No server REQUIRES you to run Renguard, they RECOMMEND it, check the dictionary if you're unsure of the difference

3) BHS are NOTHING to do with Renegade 2, AT ALL. (As far as the public know, anyway)

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258739 is a reply to message #258641] Mon, 14 May 2007 19:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1) RG 1.0322 DOES NOT HAVE ANY ISSUES ON ANY SYSTEM WHATSOEVER, THEREFORE THEY HAVE NO, I REPEAT, NO EXCUSE TO NOT RUN IT.

2) No server REQUIRES you to run Renguard, they RECOMMEND it, check the dictionary if you're unsure of the difference

3) BHS are NOTHING to do with Renegade 2, AT ALL. (As far as the public know, anyway)
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1. Sorry to burst your bubble pal, but YES it does, or they would be using it.

2. Thats a lie, especially for the jelly servers, as soon as an non-RG user comes in, !forceRG -username- kicked...

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258763 is a reply to message #258330] Tue, 15 May 2007 02:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1) Screenshot?
2) Don't play on Jelly? I've never had a forceRG command thrown at me on that server (when I'm -not- running RG) and I'm position 86 on their ladder (Of about 4000) so it's not that I just don't do anything exceptional

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258778 is a reply to message #258330] Tue, 15 May 2007 04:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's nothing to do with renguard that you get kicked, it's the regulators kicking you.

If you don't like it, don't run it.

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258783 is a reply to message #258778] Tue, 15 May 2007 06:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gamemodding wrote on Tue, 15 May 2007 06:54

It's nothing to do with renguard that you get kicked, it's the regulators kicking you.

If you don't like it, don't run it.


Keep in mind, some of the servers auto kick you for not running RG if youve been !force RG'd, and they will auto kick you when the thing loses connection or crashes, but most of the time its RG crashing my game entirely forcing me to restart everything.

And if you say reinstalling RG will fix the problem i am going to E-slap you because it doesnt...

As for the screenshot, faaaar to late for that bro sorry.

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258785 is a reply to message #258330] Tue, 15 May 2007 06:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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oh, good going for giving proof and helping... just sit there and flame, don't try and help, or did helping not occur to you?

Help, or get out.

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258792 is a reply to message #258785] Tue, 15 May 2007 07:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CarrierII wrote on Tue, 15 May 2007 08:57

oh, good going for giving proof and helping... just sit there and flame, don't try and help, or did helping not occur to you?

Help, or get out.



WTF are you talking about!?

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258793 is a reply to message #258330] Tue, 15 May 2007 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This topic consists of you saying that RG is useless, and of me trying to prove to you, that it isn't.

If it doesn't work on your system, FREAKING TELL BHS AND HELP THEM FFS.

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258799 is a reply to message #258783] Tue, 15 May 2007 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Valherran wrote on Tue, 15 May 2007 14:01

gamemodding wrote on Tue, 15 May 2007 06:54

It's nothing to do with renguard that you get kicked, it's the regulators kicking you.

If you don't like it, don't run it.


Keep in mind, some of the servers auto kick you for not running RG if youve been !force RG'd, and they will auto kick you when the thing loses connection or crashes.


Again, its all the regulator.

And CarrierII, this happens to a lot of people. He is right, it has far too many bugs and no better than the one before it.

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #258822 is a reply to message #258330] Tue, 15 May 2007 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Viva la Resistance!
Ive seen on servers people getting kicked for not running RG.

I, personally, dont see the point in running it, as i dont cheat anyway.

This is a signature. Reading this is wasting your time.

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #259157 is a reply to message #258330] Thu, 17 May 2007 11:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Does ANYONE know if BHS is going to release any kind of update in the future?

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #259268 is a reply to message #258330] Fri, 18 May 2007 00:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, we are. It's just not done yet.

I'm the bawss.

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Re: I HAVE JUST ABOUT HAD IT...with RG... [message #259294 is a reply to message #258330] Fri, 18 May 2007 04:10 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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The fault doesn't lie with RG per-se, but the belief that it's 100%. I've had to argue server owners down from enforcing RG on their servers because they thought it was foolproof. Took me a while but I got a few servers I played on to drop it to half or not at all, and rely on cheat tests instead (which back in the day were more effective than RG).

This isn't as much of an issue now as it once was, however the bots we are using today are based on the flawed logic and unless the latest versions are different they are tied tightly into RG (announcing people not using it by default, forcerg enabled by default etc.)

As for auto-force on jelly when I played there I wasn't auto forced. I was forced, but it required 3 idiots with RenGuard to do it (it's really not that hard to find 3).

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