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KILLER network card [message #256891] Wed, 02 May 2007 21:17 Go to next message
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supposedly this "killer m1 gigabit" network card is the best for gaming with no lag. I was wondering if Intel gigabit network card would do fine? The intel card is about 215 less, but both network cards are a gigabit. Or does the lag have to do with the internet company, and the card has nothin to do with it.

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Re: KILLER network card [message #256906 is a reply to message #256891] Wed, 02 May 2007 23:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Getting a Gigabit network won't make your internet faster. Wink
You'll still be stuck with the 2mbps or whatever your internet provider gives you.

If you want to pay a hell of a lot of money, you can get a gigabit internet connection. Razz
Re: KILLER network card [message #256915 is a reply to message #256891] Thu, 03 May 2007 00:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, what Jonty said.

You can upgrade your computer as much as you want but it won't speed up your internet connection. These gigabit cards are mainly for local area networks in colleges and workplaces for fast data transfer between the centeral router and server and it's workstations. The consumer of these cards install them on every machine in the workplace for fast data transfer between computers or backup storage.

The 100mbit ethernet connection on your motherboard will do you fine unless you want to pay thousands for anything over that from an ISP that will actually fit the line to a computer that won't become a gaming server.

I'd stick with your built in ethernet for a few years untill 100mbit connections become default. By that time internet connections will be optical, lol.
Re: KILLER network card [message #256920 is a reply to message #256891] Thu, 03 May 2007 00:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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By the way, that killer NIC card is a waste of money. I've read some reviews about it, including comments from people who bought it on Newegg, and by the looks of it, it's not worth it.

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Re: KILLER network card [message #256962 is a reply to message #256891] Thu, 03 May 2007 07:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gigabit LAN is gigabit LAN, there won't be much difference from manufacturer to manufacturer, and unless you have large LAN games, it's not worth it yet.


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Re: KILLER network card [message #256966 is a reply to message #256962] Thu, 03 May 2007 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CarrierII wrote on Thu, 03 May 2007 16:34

Gigabit LAN is gigabit LAN, there won't be much difference from manufacturer to manufacturer, and unless you have large LAN games, it's not worth it yet.



No, this network card isn't like others. It has a NPU (networking
processing unit) on it, and I read that this network card is faster
because it's taking away load from the CPU. However, I don't have
the money for it, and I would only buy it if I would have enough money
to buy me a Core 2 Duo extreme with 4 gig RAM too Very Happy


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Re: KILLER network card [message #256969 is a reply to message #256891] Thu, 03 May 2007 07:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmm
I see the point in having a CPU, and a GPU, and even a PPU (Physics Processing Unit) but why an NPU? Surely the load isn't that much?

j_ball is right - just buy a 2.6 Ghz quad core processor, and you're at the same level of performance, if not higher.


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Re: KILLER network card [message #256972 is a reply to message #256891] Thu, 03 May 2007 07:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anybody willing to dump $250 on a fucking network card is a moron in my book. Sure, I have a level of curiosity as to if it really does what it says, but I can't ever imagine justifying paying $250 for something that comes onboard.

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Re: KILLER network card [message #256974 is a reply to message #256972] Thu, 03 May 2007 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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j_ball430 wrote on Thu, 03 May 2007 16:52

Anybody willing to dump $250 on a fucking network card is a moron in my book. Sure, I have a level of curiosity as to if it really does what it says, but I can't ever imagine justifying paying $250 for something that comes onboard.


There are many motherboards with graphics card onboard either, and people buying graphic cards.
Almost every motherboard has sound onboard, and people are still
buying sound cards Sarcasm

But you are right, this network card's price is astronomic.
But I'm sure there will be allot of people who buy it, just to have it in their PC Big Grin


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Re: KILLER network card [message #256975 is a reply to message #256974] Thu, 03 May 2007 08:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cat998 wrote on Thu, 03 May 2007 11:00

j_ball430 wrote on Thu, 03 May 2007 16:52

Anybody willing to dump $250 on a fucking network card is a moron in my book. Sure, I have a level of curiosity as to if it really does what it says, but I can't ever imagine justifying paying $250 for something that comes onboard.


There are many motherboards with graphics card onboard either, and people buying graphic cards.
Almost every motherboard has sound onboard, and people are still
buying sound cards Sarcasm

Yes, because I was OBVIOUSLY talking about video and sound cards when this topic is about network cards.


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Re: KILLER network card [message #256979 is a reply to message #256891] Thu, 03 May 2007 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Haha silly boy/girl, network cards dont make your speed higher, paying higher prices makes your mbps higher. I use crappy old wirless equipment for my gaming and have no lag/problems, even hosting a server works with OLD equipment, it's just that it still contains my internet, I have 4mbps and my old stuff can do 54mbps....NO ONE in their house has that fast unless their a busienss out of their own home/ or rich enough to buy insanly high speeds. Want faster net? compain to your ISP and tell them so and so has higher mbps and lower pricing, go do research, thats how i got my speeds upgraded.

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Re: KILLER network card [message #256983 is a reply to message #256975] Thu, 03 May 2007 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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j_ball430 wrote on Thu, 03 May 2007 17:06


Yes, because I was OBVIOUSLY talking about video and sound cards when this topic is about network cards.


you said you don't pay $250 for something that comes onboard Wink
So I guess you have your graphics onboard too.


When people ask me "Plz" just because it's shorter than "Please" I feel perfectly justified to answer "No" because it's shorter then "Yes"

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Re: KILLER network card [message #256987 is a reply to message #256983] Thu, 03 May 2007 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cat998 wrote on Thu, 03 May 2007 11:22

j_ball430 wrote on Thu, 03 May 2007 17:06


Yes, because I was OBVIOUSLY talking about video and sound cards when this topic is about network cards.


you said you don't pay $250 for something that comes onboard Wink
So I guess you have your graphics onboard too.

So I didn't word my original post correctly, but any intelligent person knows what the fuck I meant. Hint hint...


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Re: KILLER network card [message #257021 is a reply to message #256891] Thu, 03 May 2007 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't know of a single PC game that supports (or needs) a gigbit card. I have however had a mystery lag issue that turned out to be a shit cat5 cable though.

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Re: KILLER network card [message #257025 is a reply to message #256891] Thu, 03 May 2007 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Games won't need to "support" it surely? My onboard gigabit LAN requires drivers, but nothing more special, I imagine the game would just "tell" windows to send a packet and Windows and the hardware do the timing?


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Re: KILLER network card [message #257031 is a reply to message #257025] Thu, 03 May 2007 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CarrierII wrote on Thu, 03 May 2007 20:28

Games won't need to "support" it surely? My onboard gigabit LAN requires drivers, but nothing more special, I imagine the game would just "tell" windows to send a packet and Windows and the hardware do the timing?



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When people ask me "Plz" just because it's shorter than "Please" I feel perfectly justified to answer "No" because it's shorter then "Yes"

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Re: KILLER network card [message #257033 is a reply to message #256891] Thu, 03 May 2007 12:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My dad was gonna get is from 1.5MBPS to 6MBPS connection but it is not available in our area.... Stupid bellsouth.... Angry


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Re: KILLER network card [message #257091 is a reply to message #256891] Thu, 03 May 2007 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sigh... did anybody even consider what I posted?
Re: KILLER network card [message #257096 is a reply to message #256891] Thu, 03 May 2007 14:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: KILLER network card [message #257111 is a reply to message #256891] Thu, 03 May 2007 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What Cat998 said is correct, it has an NPU that reduces the load on your processor, and it reduces the latency between data being sent over the buses. However, the only real gain of a network card like that is it reduces your network latency by 20-40ms, not to mention that rate is not consistent. As JBall said as well, its the biggest waste of money, ever.

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Re: KILLER network card [message #257128 is a reply to message #257111] Thu, 03 May 2007 16:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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to bad ping is 2-ways so you would need 2 of these cards direct-linked to get the most out of it.
And tbh, a network card that can run a torrentclient on it is overkill... (and still doenst make your internet faster)


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AoBfrost wrote on Thu, 03 May 2007 10:17

NO ONE in their house has that fast unless their a busienss out of their own home.

My parents have a buisness out of our house, and are forced to pay for the extremely overpriced internet and even I dont get lagless shitz. I think our internet is somewhere above 10mbps, but not even close to 54mbps.


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Re: KILLER network card [message #257134 is a reply to message #256891] Thu, 03 May 2007 16:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: KILLER network card [message #257136 is a reply to message #256891] Thu, 03 May 2007 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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my internet is about 100.0 mbps does that mean 1 mbps or 100

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Re: KILLER network card [message #257139 is a reply to message #256891] Thu, 03 May 2007 16:37 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Neither, that is your connection to your network I believe..

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