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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #255877 is a reply to message #255872] |
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| Jonty wrote on Thu, 26 April 2007 10:32 |
"And then all those who are prideful and refuse to bow down will be laid low and made unto dust"?
Cookie for anyone that gets that. 
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No...it's even worse.
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Revelation 21:8
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #255884 is a reply to message #255606] |
Thu, 26 April 2007 07:49 |
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this thread wasn't about religion, it was about what people belive the meaning of life is. Although, religion only comes in because some people's versions are based on their religion.
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #255904 is a reply to message #255861] |
Thu, 26 April 2007 09:16 |
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| IronBalls wrote on Thu, 26 April 2007 08:59 |
| Sniper_De7 wrote on Thu, 26 April 2007 02:22 |
| IronBalls wrote on Wed, 25 April 2007 16:54 |
| MexPirate wrote on Wed, 25 April 2007 17:53 |
| IronBalls wrote on Wed, 25 April 2007 17:51 |
| MexPirate wrote on Wed, 25 April 2007 12:18[/quote |
Nice class - God did it, the end.
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Bullz eye! That's the 100% truth.
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Sarcasm?
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No, the plain truth. The simple plain truth people are refusing/having trouble believing.
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you're a nut job man
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So, you resort to name calling? Me and a million others like me will continue to proclaim the majesty of God Almighty. You dismiss all of God's works and listen to mortal men but surely you will learn the truth in due time.
"Many are my persecutors and mine enemies; yet do I not decline from thy testimonies."
Psalms 119:157
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well you're an idiot. You said that it's 100% truth. No it's not. It's faith - there isn't a shred of evidence to support what you're thinking except from people who've "seen" God and from people over thousands of years old. I mean, hell, Greeks worshipped zeus and whatever else there is. Why is it any more plausible that your faith would be any more or less believable? I'm not about to try and stick my beliefs in you, unlike what you're doing (pitiful, mate). A person has a right to choose what he or she believes. I like to think that it's better for me to be an over-all better person without having to believe in a religion. There's right and then there's wrong - They clash, of course. But it's just common sense that I try to be nice and what not. Not to say I'm always nice. I don't really respect people that like to force their views on others, especially as strong as you do.
Why can't you just leave it be that people don't believe in what you do? Why do you have to be so god damn self-righteous? I shouldn't haev to acknowledge or worship any god to go to some magical place when I die. I'm a lot nicer than some other christians I've seen. But they deserve to go to this place? If that's how it works then don't sign me up, buster. I'd rather be with the people who don't need a reason to be nice other than their own god damned will and not doing what other people tell me I should do.
I'm also calling you a nut-job because even though you said you weren't posting in this thread, you just *had* to chime in one last time. You really have only yourself to blame on this one, kiddo. So please, just shut up already.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #255907 is a reply to message #255606] |
Thu, 26 April 2007 09:32 |
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I'm not directly grilling anyone here ...
But a trend I've noticed in modern religions (of all types) is that a lot of people say things that they don't believe deep down in their heart and soul because of either ( a ) fear of retribution or embarassment --or-- ( b ) because they think talking tough or down to a 'god' makes them feel stronger.
Again, I'm not knocking anyone here, but as always -- you should really think about the nature of these types of discussions and say to yourself "sure I may fool myself or other people - but 'someone else' may be watching how I represent myself.
To support what I just said, I've found myself saying things I know to be wrong (regarding religion) because I wanted to downplay the effect of my non-believer friends. If you have a religious belief, regardless of what it is, you shouldn't be fearful of what any mortal thinks about you.
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #255925 is a reply to message #255907] |
Thu, 26 April 2007 10:49 |
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Thanks for that grilling, fl00d3d. I don't mind at all.
See, I really do believe in what I say. Also, everything I have said so far is NOT for any personal gain, power, self-motivation, or fame or status. I don't see why I need to feel powerful. I am also not trying to project any power over anyone or anything. I am just a Christian who defends his faith where so many others don't speak due to fear.
I am merely stating what I believe and I am merely DEFENDING my beliefs against assault from those who want to disprove what I believe.
You said:
"You should really think about the nature of these types of discussions and say to yourself "sure I may fool myself or other people - but 'someone else' may be watching how I represent myself."
As a Christian, I have come a long way. Sure, no one is perfect and if there ever was a sinner with the most massive crimes in his hands, it's got to me. I am not saying that because it is a cliche catchphrase but it's because I mean it. I have commited so many sins and sin after sin...but there was a time when I had to stop and realize what I was doing.
I have a strong eternal relationship with Jesus Christ. I fear God...this keeps me for commiting more sins and keeping the relationship positive. Christianity is not a religion, it's a relationship and the more you fear God, the closer you will stay with Him.
So in other words, I want to ease your suspicion that I, IronBalls, maybe a fake Christian who is just rambling Bible verses. No, I am not a fake...and I believe God is scrutinizing me right now as I write this post. So, He knows if I am a liar or not...if I am a cheat or not. He knows EVERYTHING about me. I know that I will pay the severe price if I lied. So, please understand.
Also, the only reason that I repetedly keep posting in these hot topics (and in many other forums in the web) is to defend my faith and because I am not afraid. Also, it would be a crime, for me as a Christian, if I held my peace.
I don't care what anyone think of me...I sure know a lot of people in this forum lost any respect they had for me (if ever). But that is the price many who do God's work face and pay everyday. I must humble myself and say my arguments here does not amount to doing God's work but I am merely defending my faith and my beliefs.
But I am saying that I am a Christian and after establishing a relationship with Christ (which I have), I have a duty to carry out what is commanded to me: to spread the Good News of Jesus Christ. That should not be intrepreted as something to force ideas to others. I may not always be successful in spreading/defending the Bible but at least I tried and made some aware of the choices available in life.
Or I could have played it safe by the rules of this world...I could have been the nice IronBalls on Renforums who never said a thing...the Iron who never was frustrated or felt the need to address some topics here. Of course, then you would all have a different view of me but I don't like that life of pretending while I had something heavy on my heart that I wanted to say.
In closure, I want to say that I am not ordering or telling anyone what to do...I am just expressing my views and beliefs. I guess they are not so popular.
If you think I am not "sophisticated" or smart enough to join your so called club known as the world AND if membership in this elite cultural club of yours requires me to spit in God's face, THEN I will rather stay "ignorant."
God Bless.
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #255935 is a reply to message #255606] |
Thu, 26 April 2007 11:35 |
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I'm pretty sure I said I wasn't calling out anyone in particular. Don't take it personally - cuz my views are more aligned with yours than a few others, here.
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #256010 is a reply to message #255606] |
Thu, 26 April 2007 16:50 |
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I'd agree.
Every person probly has to some extent a different meaning, I myself have a few guesses as to what it may be, but for now, I settle with this:
Till I figure it out, I take life as it comes and try to make the best choices beneficial to the future. Why? Cuz who knows what the meaning of life is. You are here, and that's a fact. Make the best of it for you and everyone else while you're alive.
Something happened to me today that kinda makes me want to think about it more though. I saved a little girl from drowning. It was an easy save (all I had to do was dive into a shallow pool), but what if I had died while saving the girl's life? Would that have been worth my entire life to save the life of another? Seems to me that question makes the meaning of life question completely pointless.
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #271743 is a reply to message #255606] |
Sun, 08 July 2007 16:41 |
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well, the flag u see next to my name is turkish flag, which means im muslim. i thought (at least some of) you guys would be appreciated to know how islam describes this.
very long time ago i read somewhere about the meaning of life. according to that source, to islam, life is all about love. i mean loving someone. so ur love to that person takes you to god, the love that you could feel for god.
actually we should love god, even more than anything or anyone we could love. because god has created us. according to islam, he gave us some of his abilities like seeing, talking, almost everything he has instead of ability of creating. then he sent us here to pray, to love, to be a good person, so we can reach him, and then go to heaven. i haven't read quran, (because a complete translation from arabic to turkish is almost impossible, there are some differences between, so u have to speak arabic to read quran to understand it completely) but, in islam again, life isn't all about a church/mosque life. because there are lots of blessings god gave us. we should use animals for their meat to get feed, their leather to get protected from cold, etc. those resources are all for mankind. the point is, you should find a middle point between sins and good works. for example, alcohol is forbidden in islam, because it makes people unconscious, and leads bad behaviour as we all know. but imo, if ur really a good person, drinking alcohol rarely in special days (celebrating something, etc.) won't send you to the bottom of hell. but it counts as a sin. but this doesn't mean we can use drugs too, just because there are drugs in this world. because drugs extremely hurt human body, so u can't hurt urself, because god gave ur body for u to use it in this world. u must protect it at all costs. this means u can't suicide, can't kill anyone (in islam, there's no funeral for people who kills his own father or mother), can't kill even any single creature.
i hope this could be helpful and can let u see this argument through a different perspective.
sorry for my english.
sorry for my English
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #271827 is a reply to message #271743] |
Sun, 08 July 2007 21:34 |
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| archerman wrote on Sun, 08 July 2007 18:41 |
well, the flag u see next to my name is turkish flag, which means im muslim. i thought (at least some of) you guys would be appreciated to know how islam describes this.
very long time ago i read somewhere about the meaning of life. according to that source, to islam, life is all about love. i mean loving someone. so ur love to that person takes you to god, the love that you could feel for god.
actually we should love god, even more than anything or anyone we could love. because god has created us. according to islam, he gave us some of his abilities like seeing, talking, almost everything he has instead of ability of creating. then he sent us here to pray, to love, to be a good person, so we can reach him, and then go to heaven. i haven't read quran, (because a complete translation from arabic to turkish is almost impossible, there are some differences between, so u have to speak arabic to read quran to understand it completely) but, in islam again, life isn't all about a church/mosque life. because there are lots of blessings god gave us. we should use animals for their meat to get feed, their leather to get protected from cold, etc. those resources are all for mankind. the point is, you should find a middle point between sins and good works. for example, alcohol is forbidden in islam, because it makes people unconscious, and leads bad behaviour as we all know. but imo, if ur really a good person, drinking alcohol rarely in special days (celebrating something, etc.) won't send you to the bottom of hell. but it counts as a sin. but this doesn't mean we can use drugs too, just because there are drugs in this world. because drugs extremely hurt human body, so u can't hurt urself, because god gave ur body for u to use it in this world. u must protect it at all costs. this means u can't suicide, can't kill anyone (in islam, there's no funeral for people who kills his own father or mother), can't kill even any single creature.
i hope this could be helpful and can let u see this argument through a different perspective.
sorry for my english.
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It's too bad some people put it upon themselves to warp the teachings of your religion. I've known for some time that Islam is at the heart, supposed to be for the greater good. Just like Christianity though, a few extremists tend to ruin the image of that greater good.
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #271853 is a reply to message #271827] |
Sun, 08 July 2007 22:25 |
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now that we;re letting it "all hang out", I was raised Christian then for the last 20 plus years turned my back on thoughts of God.
But it struck me lately, could there be more than 1 God, like more than one STAR, one planet, one moon, one UNIVERSE!
u du da thinkin' and i'll do da drinkin'
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| Re: The meaning of life? [message #271992 is a reply to message #271952] |
Mon, 09 July 2007 13:58 |
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| luv2pb wrote on Mon, 09 July 2007 12:28 |
The meaning of life is to achieve post count +1.
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LMFAO!
The meaning of life is to get more post counts in Renegadeforums! Life will be fulfilled when 1000 posts have been achieved!
| archerman wrote on Mon, 09 July 2007 08:03 |
i hope you're not considering me one of them.
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Oh no.
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