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icon4.gif  SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #250054] Fri, 16 March 2007 07:41 Go to next message
Alcoholicleaf is currently offline  Alcoholicleaf
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Yo guys...

I'm having problems while playing renegade. Somehow renegade will not work properly. this is my system-configuration:

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- ASUS P5P800 mobo
- PIV 3600 dual core (64bit)
- ATI Radeon 9800 PRO
( BIOS Version 008.017D.033.00 )
( Memory size 128MB )
( Core Clock in MHz 378 MHz )
( Memory Clock in MHz 338 MHz )
( Slot: AGP (bus setting AGP 8X)

- 1gig RAM
(hard disk CD-Drive & sound cart etc. don't matter)

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This is software configuration (drivers etc)

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- Direct X 9.0c
- ATI Catalyst control center v 1.2.2243.38605
( Driver packaging version 8.342-070202a1-041238C-ATI )
( Catalyst version 07.2 )
( 2D driver version 6.14.10.6666 )
( Direct3D Version 6.14.10.0471 )
( OpenGL Version 6.14.10.6347 )
( AIW/VIVO WDM (SP) Driver Version 6.14.10.6238 )
- Windows XP Professional SP2 86x (32bit version)

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Problem:

- Low FPS (about 25 at start map... then when fps drops 2 or 4)
- Weird block which comes through renegade in fullscreenmode, is black or showing the background in a very low FPS rate.
- Renegade terminates, giving error messages after having played for some time (about 20 minutes for example.. but it can be 5 or less too)

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If someone may know any solution.. please respond.. I've tried almost everything (updating drivers... renegade-config.. etc.)

Please respond!

Jimmy van Turnhout AKA Alcoholicleaf Wink


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Re: SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #250055 is a reply to message #250054] Fri, 16 March 2007 07:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Virus and/or spyware running in the background and eating CPU?

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Re: SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #250056 is a reply to message #250054] Fri, 16 March 2007 07:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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can't be.. just installed windows about 4 days ago.. and theres some avast antivirus software installed

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Re: SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #250059 is a reply to message #250054] Fri, 16 March 2007 07:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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some othere sugestions?? i realy want to be able to play normal... (btw renegade was clean installed and runs CP2 <== plus RG and everything else..)

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Re: SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #250062 is a reply to message #250054] Fri, 16 March 2007 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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try installing the latest scripts version, to make it use directx 9. Can't remember the link atm, someone will post it for u Smile.

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Re: SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #250065 is a reply to message #250054] Fri, 16 March 2007 08:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #250067 is a reply to message #250054] Fri, 16 March 2007 08:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i'll try that.. but anyway.. i'm running 9.0c DirectX version now.. but i've been running multiple directx versions.. (when they were new.. (9.0b for example!)

i'll keep you updated on the progress.. if there are other 'sugestion' please post.. becaus i dont think this is the problem i'm having here..!


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Re: SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #250071 is a reply to message #250054] Fri, 16 March 2007 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've installed and executed the .exe file.. somehow it seems to improve everthing.. but it didnt solve the problem. folowing some specific details:

Some good results:
- while seeing 'Testing bandwith' i got about 354 FPS.
- Weird retangle block problem is gone!
- game looks acceptable (dont know for error message cuz i haven't played that long today!)

Problems:
Entered a server with the 'Field.mix' map. I spawnd first at AGT. and when i looked at the 354 FPS mark in the top right of my screen.. it fell in about 4 seconds to 2 FPS.. (there was a mamoth tank outside of the AGT fireing at some sniper in the field... but no hard action) then i walkt to the 'tunnel' and my fps went up to lets say 10 - 15 FPS.. but gaming isn't relaxed while having that low FPS.

So someone has another idea?


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Re: SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #250078 is a reply to message #250054] Fri, 16 March 2007 10:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Start > Run > cmd > dir -s

OT: Start > Run > type msconfig (hit enter after typeing that) > Go to the tab start up > Make sure you know what every program does on that list, If not, Untick it, Also google them to make sure, If you find a program called "outlook" on that list, Go to C:\Program Files\outlook and delete it, Also un-tick it on the start up tab, common virus.

If that didn't help, your graphics card *might* be warn out.



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Re: SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #250297 is a reply to message #250054] Sun, 18 March 2007 02:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Okey i'll try that too.. and i'll keep you updated about results etc etc.

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Re: SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #250773 is a reply to message #250054] Tue, 20 March 2007 14:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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too bad. it changed nothing. Well i'll try windows vista. maybe my computer will be functioning better with a new installation.

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Re: SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #250860 is a reply to message #250773] Tue, 20 March 2007 23:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Show us a picture of this "Box"

Re: SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #250936 is a reply to message #250860] Wed, 21 March 2007 10:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jerad Gray wrote on Wed, 21 March 2007 07:10

Show us a picture of this "Box"


Alcoholicleaf wrote on Fri, 16 March 2007 17:37

I've installed and executed the .exe file.. somehow it seems to improve everthing.. but it didnt solve the problem. folowing some specific details:

Some good results:
- while seeing 'Testing bandwith' i got about 354 FPS.
- Weird retangle block problem is gone!


^^ "Box" aka retangle block Wink


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Re: SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #251028 is a reply to message #250936] Wed, 21 March 2007 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A visual picture allows people to see what it is and might even allow people to realize what you are talking about.

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As i already said.. ITS GONE! solved that probl.

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Re: SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #251083 is a reply to message #251051] Thu, 22 March 2007 09:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Alcoholicleaf wrote on Thu, 22 March 2007 04:00

As i already said.. ITS GONE! solved that probl.

I don’t where you said that.


Re: SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #251189 is a reply to message #250054] Fri, 23 March 2007 00:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do these slow fps, frame drops/ crashes occur in other games aswell?


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He said the problem was fixed, but it would be nice to know how for anyone else that has the problem.

Re: SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #251948 is a reply to message #250054] Tue, 27 March 2007 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yeah i've found the solution to the retangle block.. it was due to Directx 9 without the script.

But low fps is still occuring.. and i've tested multiple games.. and all show low fps.. so i started looking for other problems.. and it seems like my "Intel Pentium 4 64bit DualCore processor" has a heating problem. ( Speedfan sais it's about 95* Celcius...! so i guess i've to buy a new processor )

BTW. the outside monitor of my computer gives only 45 / 50. So i didn't realy notice the heating.. but now i know that the outside monitor is broken too Wink


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Alcoholicleaf wrote on Tue, 27 March 2007 21:55

yeah i've found the solution to the retangle block.. it was due to Directx 9 without the script.

But low fps is still occuring.. and i've tested multiple games.. and all show low fps.. so i started looking for other problems.. and it seems like my "Intel Pentium 4 64bit DualCore processor" has a heating problem. ( Speedfan sais it's about 95* Celcius...! so i guess i've to buy a new processor )

BTW. the outside monitor of my computer gives only 45 / 50. So i didn't realy notice the heating.. but now i know that the outside monitor is broken too Wink

You prolly just have a fan that isn't working correctly?


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Dont know actually.. but i'll open the PC's case this weekend.. then we'll find out.. btw.. someone knows wich direction the fan needs to blow? in the direction of the Central Processing Unit? or just away?

[Btw.. i'm thinking of a new fan.. maybe a coolermaster.. someone experience with difrent types of fans?]


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Re: SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #252048 is a reply to message #250054] Wed, 28 March 2007 05:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It sounds like it might be DirectX playing up. Also, you can always try to Omega Radeon drivers, at least to determine if its a gpu driver problem.

I just checked my directx9.0c file versions and they dont match yours at all - can you run "dxdiag" and tell us what version of d3d8.dll and d3d9.dll you are running (DirectX Files tab)?

Regarding your cooling issue - you should also be able to check this in the BIOS/CMOS setup screen, or at startup as the PC boots. The (stock) fan should be pushing air onto the heatsink - although there is much discussion around which way is better with certain specialist fans.

Also check every other fan- depending on your case you might have intake fans (pushing air from the room into the case) and exhaust fans- pushing air out of the case. Need to check all of these.

Finally, as for other coolers- Coolermaster, ThermalTake or Zalman are a fairly safe bet. Must admit if your stock stuff isn't working it does indicate a problem which may only be slightly masked by better cooling.



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Re: SERIOUS PROBLEM PLAYING RENEGADE [message #252083 is a reply to message #251948] Wed, 28 March 2007 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thats way to hot, CPU shouldnt exceed the 62C.

The Intel Pentium 4 Pressler,Presscot have termal slow clock throtteling. Meaning that if the CPU heats up to much it will clock down. In this case its heating up WAY to much so it will clock WAY down. A couple of things though.
Also a temperature in that range is not good for the life age of the CPU so make sure you get it fixed soon.

- The standard stock cooler of Intel should cool enough
- Is The Fan Correctly mounted?
- Not to much Thermal compound on the Proccesor


- Good coolers, but needs little experience to mount

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Also you posted most of your system spec's but what power supply do you have to feed all that?


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How about the latest drivers? I had a same problem too with my ATI, i downloaded not the latest drivers but the one before that, and i had a sick fps rate.
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If you have a USB modem, it could slow your game. Or just unplug any thing not being used by your computer out.

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