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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249085 is a reply to message #248947] Sat, 10 March 2007 03:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hm seems they don't seel a lot of decent cas in the US Razz.

Anyway, the Golf would be my preference but as said: I don't like very large cars.

Remember that European cars will always use far less fuel than American ones for the simple reason that one litre of Petrol costs 1.25-1.35 € here at the moment. Everytime I fill up my tank, I lost 50 €.


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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249092 is a reply to message #248947] Sat, 10 March 2007 05:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe Tesla Motors will release their coupe soon, I would definitely get that:

http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php (They only have a roadster now, but a coupe is coming)
Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249093 is a reply to message #249092] Sat, 10 March 2007 05:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Blazer wrote on Sat, 10 March 2007 06:21

Maybe Tesla Motors will release their coupe soon, I would definitely get that:

http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php (They only have a roadster now, but a coupe is coming)


lol, looks nice but it has a $90,000 basic price tag and you would need a $50,000 deposit in order to get one in May 2008.


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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249103 is a reply to message #248947] Sat, 10 March 2007 06:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yanks are too addicted to gas guzzling SUVs and Pickups (such as Jeep Grand Cherokee, Chevy Suburban, Ford F-Series, Dodge Ram, Toyota LandCruiser etc etc etc).


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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249121 is a reply to message #248947] Sat, 10 March 2007 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249143 is a reply to message #249103] Sat, 10 March 2007 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My gas guzzling daily driver Pickup gets a meer 10LPH highway...

Then again, it is equipped with a 4.3L V6 and an NV3500 5 speed standard, which helps.

My tow rig, with a 5.3L V8, 300 hp, and 325 ft lbs of torque, and an NV4500 5 speed gets about 13LPH, still very respectable considering the power it produces.

Both are sequentially fuel injected, and both beat the local emissions standards by a landslide.

Us here in Northern Alberta actually need trucks. Its not just cause we like driving big vehicles. We can sometimes get a foot or two of snow overnight, and there is not a chance that a car can drive through that crap until after the bigger trucks go through. We also have to haul our own water in, haul feed for the cattle, etc.

My tow rig used to have a 5.7L V8, with like 140 hp, and 200 ft lbs of torque, and got a miserable 24LPH, and polluted like crazy, thats why I upgraded to a brand new LS1 engine from a 2006 GMC half ton. Smile

Oh, and for you Americans, LPH = Litres Per Hundred. 10 LPH = about 24 MPG, 13 LPH = about 19 MPG, and 24 LPH = about 10 MPG


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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249152 is a reply to message #249143] Sat, 10 March 2007 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To europe standards 10LPH is pretty bad still, but still better then most US cars I guess.

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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249156 is a reply to message #249143] Sat, 10 March 2007 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Apache wrote on Sat, 10 March 2007 11:48

My gas guzzling daily driver Pickup gets a meer 10LPH highway...

Then again, it is equipped with a 4.3L V6 and an NV3500 5 speed standard, which helps.

My tow rig, with a 5.3L V8, 300 hp, and 325 ft lbs of torque, and an NV4500 5 speed gets about 13LPH, still very respectable considering the power it produces.

Both are sequentially fuel injected, and both beat the local emissions standards by a landslide.

Us here in Northern Alberta actually need trucks. Its not just cause we like driving big vehicles. We can sometimes get a foot or two of snow overnight, and there is not a chance that a car can drive through that crap until after the bigger trucks go through. We also have to haul our own water in, haul feed for the cattle, etc.

My tow rig used to have a 5.7L V8, with like 140 hp, and 200 ft lbs of torque, and got a miserable 24LPH, and polluted like crazy, thats why I upgraded to a brand new LS1 engine from a 2006 GMC half ton. Smile

Oh, and for you Americans, LPH = Litres Per Hundred. 10 LPH = about 24 MPG, 13 LPH = about 19 MPG, and 24 LPH = about 10 MPG


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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249199 is a reply to message #249093] Sat, 10 March 2007 17:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MexPirate wrote on Sat, 10 March 2007 07:48

Blazer wrote on Sat, 10 March 2007 06:21

Maybe Tesla Motors will release their coupe soon, I would definitely get that:

http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php (They only have a roadster now, but a coupe is coming)


lol, looks nice but it has a $90,000 basic price tag and you would need a $50,000 deposit in order to get one in May 2008.


If you would *read* you would have saw that I was talking about their upcoming coupe, which is going to be half the price of their current roadster, and they are making a third model which will be even cheaper (around 30K), while all having the same extended range (300 miles on a single charge).

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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249200 is a reply to message #249038] Sat, 10 March 2007 17:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Uuuuuuumph.

Charger
Avenger
Mazdaspeed3/6
MX-5 lol
Pontiac G8, if you can wait a bit
Impala
Malibu, if you can wait 'til the 08 comes out...
SAAB 9-3
Nissan Z


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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249220 is a reply to message #248947] Sat, 10 March 2007 20:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am not saying that all SUVs are bad or that all SUV drivers are bad. What I am saying is that (thanks to some "loopholes" in the US laws I think) SUVs have less strict standards on emissions and other things than normal passenger cars and therefore this is bad for the environment.

If you live in the city, never go off the bitumen and never tow anything large (e.g. boat, caravan), you most likely do don't need an SUV. You could probably get away with a station wagon or even a sedan or hatchback instead which gives you better fuel economy and less pollution.



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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249241 is a reply to message #249220] Sun, 11 March 2007 03:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jonwil wrote on Sun, 11 March 2007 04:51

I am not saying that all SUVs are bad or that all SUV drivers are bad. What I am saying is that (thanks to some "loopholes" in the US laws I think) SUVs have less strict standards on emissions and other things than normal passenger cars and therefore this is bad for the environment.

If you live in the city, never go off the bitumen and never tow anything large (e.g. boat, caravan), you most likely do don't need an SUV. You could probably get away with a station wagon or even a sedan or hatchback instead which gives you better fuel economy and less pollution.



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So try to get a volvo C30 Razz
You might be able to import it yourself when it isn't avaible at a dealer?


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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249243 is a reply to message #248947] Sun, 11 March 2007 04:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Get a Hummer H1. Thumbs Up
Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249253 is a reply to message #249243] Sun, 11 March 2007 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Those use like 1 litre on 3 kilometer, that is totally unpractical, unless you have a legal way to get free petrol..

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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249255 is a reply to message #249156] Sun, 11 March 2007 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 10 March 2007 15:29

Apache wrote on Sat, 10 March 2007 11:48

My gas guzzling daily driver Pickup gets a meer 10LPH highway...

Then again, it is equipped with a 4.3L V6 and an NV3500 5 speed standard, which helps.

My tow rig, with a 5.3L V8, 300 hp, and 325 ft lbs of torque, and an NV4500 5 speed gets about 13LPH, still very respectable considering the power it produces.

Both are sequentially fuel injected, and both beat the local emissions standards by a landslide.

Us here in Northern Alberta actually need trucks. Its not just cause we like driving big vehicles. We can sometimes get a foot or two of snow overnight, and there is not a chance that a car can drive through that crap until after the bigger trucks go through. We also have to haul our own water in, haul feed for the cattle, etc.

My tow rig used to have a 5.7L V8, with like 140 hp, and 200 ft lbs of torque, and got a miserable 24LPH, and polluted like crazy, thats why I upgraded to a brand new LS1 engine from a 2006 GMC half ton. Smile

Oh, and for you Americans, LPH = Litres Per Hundred. 10 LPH = about 24 MPG, 13 LPH = about 19 MPG, and 24 LPH = about 10 MPG


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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249267 is a reply to message #248947] Sun, 11 March 2007 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do what I did and ignore him.


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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249280 is a reply to message #249253] Sun, 11 March 2007 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 11 March 2007 16:26

Those use like 1 litre on 3 kilometer, that is totally unpractical, unless you have a legal way to get free petrol..

Yeah and a Ford Mustang isn't exactly enviroment free too.
Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249286 is a reply to message #249255] Sun, 11 March 2007 14:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Apache wrote on Sun, 11 March 2007 10:07

JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 10 March 2007 15:29

Apache wrote on Sat, 10 March 2007 11:48

My gas guzzling daily driver Pickup gets a meer 10LPH highway...

Then again, it is equipped with a 4.3L V6 and an NV3500 5 speed standard, which helps.

My tow rig, with a 5.3L V8, 300 hp, and 325 ft lbs of torque, and an NV4500 5 speed gets about 13LPH, still very respectable considering the power it produces.

Both are sequentially fuel injected, and both beat the local emissions standards by a landslide.

Us here in Northern Alberta actually need trucks. Its not just cause we like driving big vehicles. We can sometimes get a foot or two of snow overnight, and there is not a chance that a car can drive through that crap until after the bigger trucks go through. We also have to haul our own water in, haul feed for the cattle, etc.

My tow rig used to have a 5.7L V8, with like 140 hp, and 200 ft lbs of torque, and got a miserable 24LPH, and polluted like crazy, thats why I upgraded to a brand new LS1 engine from a 2006 GMC half ton. Smile

Oh, and for you Americans, LPH = Litres Per Hundred. 10 LPH = about 24 MPG, 13 LPH = about 19 MPG, and 24 LPH = about 10 MPG


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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249294 is a reply to message #249280] Sun, 11 March 2007 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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idebo wrote on Sun, 11 March 2007 21:19

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 11 March 2007 16:26

Those use like 1 litre on 3 kilometer, that is totally unpractical, unless you have a legal way to get free petrol..

Yeah and a Ford Mustang isn't exactly enviroment free too.

ok, but it isnt as bad as a hummer, and it has atleast some aerodynamic features.... And doesn't way 3 ton +


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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249334 is a reply to message #248947] Sun, 11 March 2007 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Having a foreign car imported is not a viable option, unless you are rich.

* First you would have to buy the car outright. No financing. That means coming up with 30,000 cash, or getting a loan for that amount and wiring it abroad.
* There are many fees and duties you must pay which total up to thousands of dollars
* The car must be inspected and clear customs, paperwork etc, so you wouldn't even get it for a few months
* Then once you had it, you would not be allowed to license it to drive on the road until it was modified to meed US emissions and safety standards (a few more thousand bucks)

So in effect, to import a car from another country, be prepared to wait a long time, and spend an extra 10-15k cash on the process.

Long story short: STOP RECOMMENDING TO BUY CARS THAT ARE NOT SOLD IN THE US Razz
Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249338 is a reply to message #248947] Sun, 11 March 2007 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Imported Eagle Talon Turbo. Isnt a new car but will do 140 out of the crate.

BTW my sister got one in town for 3k.

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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249354 is a reply to message #248947] Sun, 11 March 2007 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249389 is a reply to message #248947] Mon, 12 March 2007 00:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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* Then once you had it, you would not be allowed to license it to drive on the road until it was modified to meed US emissions and safety standards (a few more thousand bucks)

You mean that you'd need to downgrade its safety and emissions standard? Wink

But yes, you're right ofcourse: stick to cars that are availlable on the local market Smile.


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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249514 is a reply to message #249334] Mon, 12 March 2007 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Blazer wrote on Mon, 12 March 2007 02:50

Having a foreign car imported is not a viable option, unless you are rich.

* First you would have to buy the car outright. No financing. That means coming up with 30,000 cash, or getting a loan for that amount and wiring it abroad.
* There are many fees and duties you must pay which total up to thousands of dollars
* The car must be inspected and clear customs, paperwork etc, so you wouldn't even get it for a few months
* Then once you had it, you would not be allowed to license it to drive on the road until it was modified to meed US emissions and safety standards (a few more thousand bucks)

So in effect, to import a car from another country, be prepared to wait a long time, and spend an extra 10-15k cash on the process.

Long story short: STOP RECOMMENDING TO BUY CARS THAT ARE NOT SOLD IN THE US Razz

Well, I dont know if you seriously informed yourselfs at a local volvo dealer (presuming that there are volvo dealers in the USA) as I think that if there is a volvo dealer, that the C30 should be avaible rather soon, as they are pretty new at this moment.


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Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #249678 is a reply to message #248947] Tue, 13 March 2007 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Blazer doesn't need a car that can deal with snow. We barely even have rain here. Also, he doesn't need to "pick up chicks" since he already has the best one possible.

I vote for a car that uses a standard radio so that you can transfer the $350 stereo I just bought for you for Christmas 2005 into it. Razz


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