| Re: Screen refresh rate? [message #241588 is a reply to message #241207] |
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Dave Anderson
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It is unlikely that you have a card capable of a higher FPS then your monitors refresh rate.
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That is if you live under a rock. I play Renegade with 4xAA and 8xAF and get 120+ FPS.
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| Re: Screen refresh rate? [message #241667 is a reply to message #241207] |
Sat, 27 January 2007 19:57 |
icedog90
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I second that. I have a Geforce 6800 and many games run higher than my monitor's refresh rate. Vsync is what determines if your FPS is capped by your refresh rate. Most games have it off by default, but usually I like to have it on because tearing bugs the crap out of me.
The conclusion is that there is ABSOLUTELY no visible gain in performance when your FPS is capped at your refresh rate. It's practically impossible to notice the difference above 60 FPS, and the lowest anybody will have their CRT at is 60hz. The only reason you would want to see FPS higher than that is if you're recording benchmarks.
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| Re: Screen refresh rate? [message #242656 is a reply to message #241207] |
Thu, 01 February 2007 00:55 |
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| Dave Anderson wrote on Sat, 27 January 2007 17:51 |
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It is unlikely that you have a card capable of a higher FPS then your monitors refresh rate.
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That is if you live under a rock. I play Renegade with 4xAA and 8xAF and get 120+ FPS.
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You miss understand what I meant.
It is unlikely that he has a card capable of a higher FPS then his refresh rate because the max FPS you can actually get in renegade is 60 (despite seeing in windowed mode FPS rates as high as 600). So it is unlikely that his monitor operates at a refresh rate lower then 60hz.
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| Re: Screen refresh rate? [message #242819 is a reply to message #241207] |
Thu, 01 February 2007 16:56 |
icedog90
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I think he understood it fine. You did a bad job expressing what you actually meant.
Whatever you're saying about Renegade having a "max tolerance" for FPS is completely bogus. The only time a game caps the FPS is if it's trying to keep it under the monitor's refresh rate, or vertical sync is on. I play in FULLSCREEN MODE and my FPS is usually well above 100.
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| Re: Screen refresh rate? [message #242821 is a reply to message #241207] |
Thu, 01 February 2007 17:06 |
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ugh... okay, you guys know nothing, I'm sorry.
Your FPS will only be capped IF you have vertical sync (VSYNC) turned on in the game. Vsync CAPS your FPS at your monitor's refresh rate, NOT 60. Your FPS won't be split in half, that is total nonsense.
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| Re: Screen refresh rate? [message #242823 is a reply to message #241207] |
Thu, 01 February 2007 17:17 |
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Dave Anderson
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To reinforce Icedog's point and my point:
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When vertical sync is enabled, video cards only output a maximum frame rate equal to the refresh rate of the monitor. All extra frames are dropped. When vertical sync is disabled, the video card is free to render frames as fast as it can, but the display of those rendered frames is still limited to the refresh rate of the monitor. For example, a card may render a game at 100 FPS on a monitor running 75Hz refresh, but no more than 75 FPS can actually be displayed on screen.
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David Anderson
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DCOM Productions
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