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Mon, 15 January 2007 11:30   |
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hmm well where should i start, i got like 15 posts i want to respond to lol dont want to quote them all. anyways i was about 16 when i tried my first joint, and pretty much have been doing it ever since. to tell you the truth no matter what it is i can do it better high on weed than drunk. like some1 already said there are pros and cons to doing both, personally i would have to say that if i were to drink everyday i would be much worse than to blaze or toke everyday. i have never seen any1 kill for weed, i have seen people steal for it or steal it, but again its a personal preferance thing its who those people are. they dont do it because they get the shakes or withdrawal symptoms they just do it cause they are theifes and will steal. in a sense i guess you could say that you can overdose on weed, its called green out, when you get sick puke and your skin turns greenish color. thats pretty much as bad as smoking tons of weed will do to ya. yes smoking weed does make you lazy thats no lie, but what about drinking? it might not make you lazy but it will make you unable to do most stuff anyways. when i was like 17-18 my mom told me that smoking weed on its own isnt that bad, but she said it would seperate people. some would try it and never want to do it again, some will try it an be fine using just weed to get high, and others the mojority will move on to other drugs to get better high. good thing i caught myself before i went further. i mean i did try a few other drugs like mushrooms or hashish, but i never went into the chemically made drugs (like produced in a lab) i just tried the natural ones. also to whoever said that you got some really got weed in UK... lets just say you are wrong, the shit here in canada is way better, B.C. bud all the way man. how do i know lets just say last winter a buddy of mine that lives in UK got to try the stuff we smoke here... i leave it to your imagination how... no he didnt come here, and i didnt go there. lets just say that even now whatever you want can still get there by mail 
now im not a genius but i never did any homework in school or when i went to post secondary, and i smoked weed quite often during that time and still got my 75-90% marks in all subjects. i know im not addicted to it, because i quit for 5 months after graduation because i thought i would get tested for it when i find a job, but here i dont so its all good lol. and i would never steal rob or kill any1 for it, its hard not to smoke it here in canada cause every1 does and you get a fine only if you have more than like 30grams so its all good cause i never have that much and i dont sell it so im safe. if i get caught with it they will just take it away or now they tend to stomp on it and rub it into the ground lol. anyways all i can say is if you smoke it or you dont, killing stealing and robbing is up to you weed will have nothing to do with that. cant say the same about alcohol. also weed really is a gateway for some do go into harder drugs but you know what, its not the weeds fault its those people that wanted to keep on going and never stopped.
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| Re: Marijuana [message #239281 is a reply to message #239202] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 14:43 |
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| SpyGuy246 wrote on Mon, 15 January 2007 03:56 |
I ate some ice cream once. I felt all weird and saw Jesus. I also got fired from work for coming in full of ice cream.
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...ok? That's getting off from what I used the ice cream thing to convey.
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| Re: Marijuana [message #239283 is a reply to message #239229] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 14:47 |
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| Goztow wrote on Mon, 15 January 2007 08:17 |
So you say that if she couldn't afford it anymore, she wouldn't sell anything to get her joint?
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She wouldn't do much to get a joint if she couldn't afford one.
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| Re: Marijuana [message #239293 is a reply to message #238830] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 16:14 |
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I'd like to see a benefit of smoking Marijuana even on a recreational basis. I'd bet money the cons would devastate the pros. No amount of word twisting can change that. Have I ever taken drugs? Do I see things the way you do? The answer is no. However, all I know is that I'm going to have children someday. The last thing I want in their atmosphere is drugs. I'd prefer Alcohol and Cigarettes stricken from it as well, but hey, I don't have a choice in the matter.
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| Re: Marijuana [message #239295 is a reply to message #238830] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 16:40 |
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The benefits don't matter to me, and the cons probably do devastate the pros. I just feel that marijuana should be licit, just as alcohol and tobacco are.
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| Re: Marijuana [message #239298 is a reply to message #238830] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 17:07 |
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gbull, i would have to say that i hope my kids never do either one of the three. but the thing is that marijuana smoke is less toxic to you that tobacco is, and if you are worried about drugs in the atmosphere how do you feel about all of that pollution in the atmosphere. it really depends to what extent you drink to consider it better than weed. if you are an alcoholic it is much worse than being a pothead. i mean sure smoking it makes you loose brain cells and your memory is going out the window, but if you are an excessive drinker, you got the liver, kindeys, stomach to worry about and did i meantion you still loose braincells? lets just say this if it was up to me i would rather have a pothead for a son, than an alcoholic. and smoking well thats another issue, some say that if you smoke weed you smoke cigarettes, not true i know over 2 dozen people that dont smoke but still do weed.
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| Re: Marijuana [message #239299 is a reply to message #238830] |
Mon, 15 January 2007 17:18 |
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Brain cells aren't destroyed by drinking, according to some research. But when you drink (more than moderately?), brain cells are damaged - although the damages seem to be reversible with abstinence - to create poor function.
Also, smoking doesn't produce toxins to kill brain cells like alcohol. Memory does seem to go out the window when you chronically smoke, though. That also goes away with abstinence.
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| Re: Marijuana [message #239371 is a reply to message #239248] |
Tue, 16 January 2007 03:10 |
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| gbull wrote on Mon, 15 January 2007 10:17 |
By selling, he means giving away an asset. In a rather extreme case, he may mean prostitution. It's not unheard of for women to sell themselves to obtain what is needed to fulfill their drug fixes.
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Thats the whole point I was asking you to elaborate on.
Prostitution for some weed, lol.
Perhaps for crack but weed?
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| Re: Marijuana [message #239401 is a reply to message #239371] |
Tue, 16 January 2007 08:20 |
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| puddle_splasher wrote on Tue, 16 January 2007 04:10 |
| gbull wrote on Mon, 15 January 2007 10:17 |
By selling, he means giving away an asset. In a rather extreme case, he may mean prostitution. It's not unheard of for women to sell themselves to obtain what is needed to fulfill their drug fixes.
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Thats the whole point I was asking you to elaborate on.
Prostitution for some weed, lol.
Perhaps for crack but weed?
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I smoked it when I was a kid. Some lady I mowed lawns for would pay me by smoking a joint or two with her. She was my favorite client 
Only reason I don't now is because of the drug testing at work. If I ran my own place hell ya I would.
*side note*
It's illegal now to own a business in the state of Ohio and allow smoking in your place. You own it, but you don't. Wonder what is the next thing to strip owner’s rights away from what they can do in their own place of business.
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| Re: Marijuana [message #239423 is a reply to message #238830] |
Tue, 16 January 2007 09:46 |
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yeah we had it for 2 years now i believe, dont mind it that much to tell you the truth, i know some bartenders and waitresses and they used to have problems breathing at the end of the night in bars and restaurants they worked in, and its really unfair to subject people like that just because you choose to smoke...
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| Re: Marijuana [message #239427 is a reply to message #239424] |
Tue, 16 January 2007 10:26 |
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| warranto wrote on Tue, 16 January 2007 09:54 |
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and its really unfair to subject people like that just because you choose to smoke...
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and that is one of my main points against pot. What someone does in their own home is none of my business. But if it starts to affect me, then I say it should be removed. Be it smoking, or pot.
It's my belief that the only reason smoking isn't completely banned is because it is far too ingrained in society (aside from the large amount of income it generates for the Government). Had it been banned before that occurred, I don't think there would have been a problem with the thought of smoking being banned.
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ok well we agree on the fact that smoking should be banned from public places, but on the street, car, home i think it should be allowed. and i think same should go for weed. because you are not forced to inhale it if i smoke in in open space like the street, you can walk around its not like most will blow smoke in your face and if they do that then thats a personal issue not due to smoking.
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| Re: Marijuana [message #239434 is a reply to message #238830] |
Tue, 16 January 2007 11:28 |
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I know a few people who smoke/have smoked weed- for the most part, those in my circle of friends who do it keep it under control and out of the way. They only occasionally do it, and when they do they make sure that they won't be driving or anything afterwards. They never try to hook the non-smokers into joining, and they always change afterwards just so we won't have to smell it on them.
I've also seen people take it to an extreme, however. My roommate first semester last year was the original chronic pothead- he smoked every day and was constantly scraping the bottom of the barrel for money to buy his next fix. He was so out of it most days that I would actually have to wake his sorry ass up so he didn't miss class. I'm pretty much the only reason he didn't flunk out of school, and I kept wondering at the time why I didn't just let him do so because he had no regard whatsoever for anyone or anything around him.
I thought differently about weed back in high school. I'd never want to try the stuff myself, but I honestly couldn't give less of a shit who does anymore. It's no different than alcohol- it won't fuck you up if taken in moderation. It's the people that can't control their intake who wind up with- and become- problems because of it.
I don't think it should be illegal. I think it should come under the same regulations that govern alcohol (i.e. can't be used in public, can't be sold to minors, etc.). People who want to smoke weed are gonna smoke weed regardless of whether it's legal or not, and it's a waste of time and taxpayer money to pursue that particular drug when there exist far more dangerous and damaging substances. I'd rather see weed legal and have law enforcement spend more time hunting down cocaine, meth, heroin, and the other "hard" drugs.
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| Re: Marijuana [message #239436 is a reply to message #239427] |
Tue, 16 January 2007 11:37 |
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| Romaner wrote on Tue, 16 January 2007 10:26 |
| warranto wrote on Tue, 16 January 2007 09:54 |
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and its really unfair to subject people like that just because you choose to smoke...
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and that is one of my main points against pot. What someone does in their own home is none of my business. But if it starts to affect me, then I say it should be removed. Be it smoking, or pot.
It's my belief that the only reason smoking isn't completely banned is because it is far too ingrained in society (aside from the large amount of income it generates for the Government). Had it been banned before that occurred, I don't think there would have been a problem with the thought of smoking being banned.
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ok well we agree on the fact that smoking should be banned from public places, but on the street, car, home i think it should be allowed. and i think same should go for weed. because you are not forced to inhale it if i smoke in in open space like the street, you can walk around its not like most will blow smoke in your face and if they do that then thats a personal issue not due to smoking.
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Sorry, I don't enjoy cutting across the street just so someone can enjoy their cigarette. I'm allergic (or highly sensitive) to the smoke. Even small amounts cause me to have difficulty in breathing. Large amounts and I'm on the ground, throwing up and nearly unable to breath.
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| Re: Marijuana [message #239453 is a reply to message #238830] |
Tue, 16 January 2007 13:26 |
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ok then dont you already have to cut corners to begin with? i mean not for most streets but around the downtown area im sure there are tons that smoke on the street you cant tell me there is no1 there like that. also weed is different kind of smoke, if you are alergic to tobacco smoke it does not mean you are allergic to weed smoke.. they are comletely different. i actually know a person that is pretty much the same as you he is very sensitive to cigarette smoke, if i smoke in the car i have to air it out for an hour or more before he can get in, but he still smokes weed and it does nothing to his astma and his allergies
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| Re: Marijuana [message #239460 is a reply to message #238830] |
Tue, 16 January 2007 14:13 |
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well then i guess it all comes down to personal issues, you want the smoke off your street since you cant handle it, i want to smoke on the street because i wont smoke at home, good thing we got democracy
ps. weed should still be legal
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| Re: Marijuana [message #239481 is a reply to message #238830] |
Tue, 16 January 2007 16:32 |
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I don't think I've ran into a decent case against the drug being legal yet... >_>
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| Re: Marijuana [message #239483 is a reply to message #238830] |
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There's a bit of a line between freedom to do something and freedom from something. Usually, the former stops where the latter begins.
The way I see it, you should have the right to smoke yourself stupid however often you want, whenever you want. However, I should have a right to walk down the street without having to inhale whatever it is you're smoking. Especially so in the case of weed, which has more immediate effects than causing lung cancer (for the record, I think that folks shouldn't be allowed to smoke regular cigs in public either). The smoke from the weed has the ability to get whoever walks past it buzzed, and because of that nobody should have the right to do it where others must walk past it. I don't see why a person smoking weed should be allowed to stand out where people have to smell it and deal with their stoned ass.
Weed should be legal, but it should NOT be legal to smoke it in public places, and it should also NOT be legal to go stumbling out in public while you're high off it.
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
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| Re: Marijuana [message #239503 is a reply to message #239483] |
Tue, 16 January 2007 20:04 |
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| NukeIt15 wrote on Tue, 16 January 2007 18:45 |
There's a bit of a line between freedom to do something and freedom from something. Usually, the former stops where the latter begins.
The way I see it, you should have the right to smoke yourself stupid however often you want, whenever you want. However, I should have a right to walk down the street without having to inhale whatever it is you're smoking. Especially so in the case of weed, which has more immediate effects than causing lung cancer (for the record, I think that folks shouldn't be allowed to smoke regular cigs in public either). The smoke from the weed has the ability to get whoever walks past it buzzed, and because of that nobody should have the right to do it where others must walk past it. I don't see why a person smoking weed should be allowed to stand out where people have to smell it and deal with their stoned ass.
Weed should be legal, but it should NOT be legal to smoke it in public places, and it should also NOT be legal to go stumbling out in public while you're high off it.
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This.
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| Re: Marijuana [message #239507 is a reply to message #238830] |
Tue, 16 January 2007 20:54 |
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Correct me if I'm mistaken (I've never smoked anything and don't plan to), but whenever I hear about pot smoking, I always hear about the high. To me, "high" implies a dramatic change in one's perception very quickly. Yes, alcohol does the same thing and I believe that term originated as a synonym of "drunk." However, I know it's possible to drink small amounts of alcohol and NOT get high. I've done it myself and have been around/heard about others who have. I have yet to hear of or experience, however, someone smoking small amounts of pot and not getting high.
People often drink alcohol without the intention of getting drunk and often have no trouble doing so. Are there many people who smoke pot with the intention of not getting high and are successful in doing so? (an actual query)
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anyways just another stupid thing the city of Edmonton is trying to do... if somehow they make smoking in a car illegal i dunno what im going to do, since here its not exactly warm for 8 months of the year. oh and those of you living in calgary watchout they might bring it there aswell 
