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| puddle_splasher wrote on Mon, 01 January 2007 03:42 |
| GoArmy44 wrote on Sun, 31 December 2006 21:53 |
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| j_ball430 wrote on Sat, 30 December 2006 21:49 |
Those who cannot watch death fear it. Why fear the inevitable?
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Hanging is inevitable?
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Apparently it is when you murder thousands of your own people for the sake of keeping power and wealth into your own hands.
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Death may have been inevitable. The point being "hanging" and inevitable.
Are you suggesting that Saddam knew from the day he was born that he would die from hanging?
Either you can see into the future or you talk a lot of shite. Go and wipe your mouth with some toilet tissue.
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You all are so full of it, you post just to fight. J_ball never said hanging was inevitable. He said death was. So you assumed just to start a fight it was hanging that was inevitable.
This whole part is getting annoying. Seems to happen a lot on these forums.
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| Re: Ding Dong... [message #236843 is a reply to message #236701] |
Tue, 02 January 2007 02:16 |
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This isnt about YOU TALKING SHIT 
This was about viewing someone hanging. Viewing for curiosity or thrills.
However it would appear that in any adult discussion, particularly on any forum, that if an opinion conflicts with any other opinion, that said person is talking shit!!
Yes thats big and brave of you. It is what we come to expect in life from a 10 year old kid, who cannot see beyond his own reasoning.
Try this for thought on any subject on the forum.!!!!
Who of us, percentage wise, have came away from the forum with a different belief from whence we entered?
Some of us, myself included may have partially modified our ideas, thoughts and opinions, however that does not mean that my opinion has changed.
So come on, feel free to reply to any topic. Only requirement is to do it in your own words, without copying it straight out of a book, verbatim. "In your own words" demonstrates that you have an understanding of your opinion.
Back on topic!!!
Now that some people have viewed the video out of morbid curiosity, would you watch another live video of someones death or has that curiosity been fulfilled?
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| Re: Ding Dong... [message #236857 is a reply to message #236843] |
Tue, 02 January 2007 04:58 |
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| puddle_splasher wrote on Tue, 02 January 2007 03:16 |
This isnt about YOU TALKING SHIT
This was about viewing someone hanging. Viewing for curiosity or thrills.
However it would appear that in any adult discussion, particularly on any forum, that if an opinion conflicts with any other opinion, that said person is talking shit!!
Yes thats big and brave of you. It is what we come to expect in life from a 10 year old kid, who cannot see beyond his own reasoning.
Try this for thought on any subject on the forum.!!!!
Who of us, percentage wise, have came away from the forum with a different belief from whence we entered?
Some of us, myself included may have partially modified our ideas, thoughts and opinions, however that does not mean that my opinion has changed.
So come on, feel free to reply to any topic. Only requirement is to do it in your own words, without copying it straight out of a book, verbatim. "In your own words" demonstrates that you have an understanding of your opinion.
Back on topic!!!
Now that some people have viewed the video out of morbid curiosity, would you watch another live video of someones death or has that curiosity been fulfilled?
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It is what we come to expect in life from a 10 year old kid, who cannot see beyond his own reasoning.
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Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: Ding Dong... [message #236863 is a reply to message #236843] |
Tue, 02 January 2007 06:34 |
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| puddle_splasher wrote on Tue, 02 January 2007 03:16 |
This isnt about YOU TALKING SHIT
This was about viewing someone hanging. Viewing for curiosity or thrills.
However it would appear that in any adult discussion, particularly on any forum, that if an opinion conflicts with any other opinion, that said person is talking shit!!
Yes thats big and brave of you. It is what we come to expect in life from a 10 year old kid, who cannot see beyond his own reasoning.
Try this for thought on any subject on the forum.!!!!
Who of us, percentage wise, have came away from the forum with a different belief from whence we entered?
Some of us, myself included may have partially modified our ideas, thoughts and opinions, however that does not mean that my opinion has changed.
So come on, feel free to reply to any topic. Only requirement is to do it in your own words, without copying it straight out of a book, verbatim. "In your own words" demonstrates that you have an understanding of your opinion.
Back on topic!!!
Now that some people have viewed the video out of morbid curiosity, would you watch another live video of someones death or has that curiosity been fulfilled?
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I might watch it because it's sadaam, but if it was random inmate #44312343 from a chinese prison I wouldn't. I haven't seen it yet, but I might.
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| Re: Ding Dong... [message #236954 is a reply to message #236380] |
Tue, 02 January 2007 20:38 |
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Yes thats big and brave of you. It is what we come to expect in life from a 10 year old kid, who cannot see beyond his own reasoning.
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Come on Puddle, we have gone through this already. You are not anymore mature than I am. Get over it.
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So come on, feel free to reply to any topic. Only requirement is to do it in your own words, without copying it straight out of a book, verbatim. "In your own words" demonstrates that you have an understanding of your opinion.
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I don't know what point you are trying to make toward me. If indeed you are directing this advise toward me, where have I posted that proves I have not followed it?
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Now that some people have viewed the video out of morbid curiosity, would you watch another live video of someones death or has that curiosity been fulfilled?
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Depends, if its a suicide or murder caught on tape I will choose not to view it out of respect. But if its an execution of a murderer who kills out of selfishness and greed or a dictator who kills thousands for self accommodation, then I have no qualms about watching it, because they deserve no respect.
Reconcilia Rem Publicam!
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| Re: Ding Dong... [message #236990 is a reply to message #236380] |
Wed, 03 January 2007 04:22 |
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This topic is not about respect. Its about the watching of a live death. 
However, you did answer in your own words. 
Does it bring some sort of closure to yourself as regards Saddam? What did you personally gain from watching a "snuff movie"? How did you feel after it? Why do you feel that way after viewing it? Why do you feel that you have to watch anymore deaths?
I have not viewed the video, nor feel any need to. The guy did wrong on a massive scale, he suffered the consequences. Who will be next on the video?
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| Re: Ding Dong... [message #236993 is a reply to message #236380] |
Wed, 03 January 2007 06:38 |
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I quickly skimmed through the last two pages and this is all I have to say:
Seriously just 'STFU'. I can't believe some of the people on these forums that are straight up homosexual panzys. Take the dick out from between your cheeks and stop whining about every little confrontation of violence and death and observe HUMANITY. I'm reaching a boiling point (if not already @) because of people that are pacifist/hippy.
Specifically...
This guy tortured innocent people - how sick is that? What benefit did that bring to humanity? So when I ask to see a video of his execution I'm suddenly sick? Eye for an eye... I wouldn't have complained if he was gassed - I strongly would have preferred that. I guess that's sick too?
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| Re: Ding Dong... [message #236997 is a reply to message #236993] |
Wed, 03 January 2007 07:14 |
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No one has a problem with his execution. Humanity was being rewarded.
An eye for an eye, is all fine and well.
But the thought is why you sick bastards wanted to watch the execution.
Some people explained it as "being curious", thats fine, also.
So what seems to be your problem and where do you get the "homo-pansies" from or is this more BS on your part?
Pacifist hippys? Balls in mouth? Thats even more BS on your part. None of it makes a coherent statement. Then again, few of your statements ever do make sense.
Thats why we call this, having a discussion and thats why we have opinions.
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| Re: Ding Dong... [message #237023 is a reply to message #236380] |
Wed, 03 January 2007 11:14 |
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Nah, just means you're a lightweight.
I think I made my point quite clear: the guy deserved to be gassed and got off easy with a hanging. He was executed for a reason, and I wanted to see the look on his face before they put the noose around his neck ... knowing it was his last minutes ... wondering what was going on in his mind.
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| Re: Ding Dong... [message #237431 is a reply to message #236380] |
Fri, 05 January 2007 12:11 |
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Just when we thought it was over, I opened the newspaper and read some tragic news.
2 kids, aged 9 from Texas and the other aged 10 from Pakistan, died after attempting to reconstruct the hanging of Saddam.
It states that they had both seen the video and were killed in a tragic accident, whilst hanging from their bedroom ceiling.
Yeah, I know they were young and impressionable, just as I know that you are all older and wont attempt it.
But its still very tragic that 2 recorded deaths could have been prevented by not showing the video. At that age you have to question parental control, even if we cannot observe the children at all times, something needs to be done to prevent these accidents.
Any ideas?
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| Re: Ding Dong... [message #237434 is a reply to message #237431] |
Fri, 05 January 2007 12:22 |
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| puddle_splasher wrote on Wed, 03 January 2007 15:43 |
| fl00d3d wrote on Wed, 03 January 2007 10:14 |
I wanted to see the look on his face before they put the noose around his neck ... knowing it was his last minutes ... wondering what was going on in his mind.
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Thats the point that I am trying to make.
WHY do you wonder? What will it achieve for you? Where are you going to look for more videos?
What did you learn about his last thoughts? Why do you personally need to know his thoughts? Had you found out his thoughts, what would you have done with them?
If any of your family had been killed, directly or indirectly at his hands or his soldiers, then I can understand the feelings, but if not.......
It appears that you have more than just a morbid curiosity to death. You seem to thrive on this.
Seek phsycological help for your inner thoughts and feelings before it is too late.
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I have spent time in the Persian Gulf (active duty military), nearly lost my life in combat, and have had friends (not family) that died due to shitheads LIKE him (not necessarily him). To me, watching the video shows me justice and that going into Iraq for no other reason but to capture and hang that dirtbag was worth it.
XPtek knows all about self sacrifice and living outside the saftey of his mommy's house, so I should give two shits what he has to say about my views on true justice...
| puddle_splasher wrote on Fri, 05 January 2007 14:11 |
Just when we thought it was over, I opened the newspaper and read some tragic news.
2 kids, aged 9 from Texas and the other aged 10 from Pakistan, died after attempting to reconstruct the hanging of Saddam.
It states that they had both seen the video and were killed in a tragic accident, whilst hanging from their bedroom ceiling.
Yeah, I know they were young and impressionable, just as I know that you are all older and wont attempt it.
But its still very tragic that 2 recorded deaths could have been prevented by not showing the video. At that age you have to question parental control, even if we cannot observe the children at all times, something needs to be done to prevent these accidents.
Any ideas?
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Tragic, but I think at their age they're smart enough to know that it would kill them. They may have been a bit ignorant about getting out of the situation, but I definitely would NOT blame the media for their death.
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| Re: Ding Dong... [message #237438 is a reply to message #236380] |
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I'd say to blame it on the parents but the kids probably saw it on the internet or something. Kind of why I wouldn't think the video would be allowed on the forums with kids around since if I had a kid, I wouldn't want him/her to watch it if i could try.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: Ding Dong... [message #237448 is a reply to message #237438] |
Fri, 05 January 2007 14:22 |
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| Sniper_De7 wrote on Fri, 05 January 2007 15:34 |
I'd say to blame it on the parents but the kids probably saw it on the internet or something. Kind of why I wouldn't think the video would be allowed on the forums with kids around since if I had a kid, I wouldn't want him/her to watch it if i could try.
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This game is rated for teens, so anybody under the age of 13 shouldn't be on here... not to mention that Renegade is about killing and destruction. If any kid that's impressionable and is on here is not the problem of the admins, mods, or the community.
The fact is, we see ever worsening parenting. People scream foul when something happens to kids, but where are the parents? The media and government is not responsible for raising our children. Some of our parents, and our grandparents grew up without television and video games to assist the learning of children. Parents have it easy, and they seem to think that they shouldn't be there except to discipline their kids, so when their kids see/learn about bad things, they blame everything around them. When you point a finger, 3 are pointing back at you.
Censorship is a farce.
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| Re: Ding Dong... [message #237475 is a reply to message #237434] |
Fri, 05 January 2007 18:41 |
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| fl00d3d wrote on Fri, 05 January 2007 14:22 |
XPtek knows all about self sacrifice and living outside the saftey of his mommy's house, so I should give two shits what he has to say about my views on true justice...
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I wasn't referring to you. Sorry I hit home, though. Last thing I'd want to do is offend our racist veteren population on Renforums.
Edit: Also, yes, thousands of deaths (both our citizens and citizens of Iraq) were sure worth it to kill one old guy, fl00d3d.
cause = time
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| Re: Ding Dong... [message #237497 is a reply to message #237475] |
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| xptek wrote on Fri, 05 January 2007 19:41 |
| fl00d3d wrote on Fri, 05 January 2007 14:22 |
XPtek knows all about self sacrifice and living outside the saftey of his mommy's house, so I should give two shits what he has to say about my views on true justice...
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I wasn't referring to you. Sorry I hit home, though. Last thing I'd want to do is offend our racist veteren population on Renforums.
Edit: Also, yes, thousands of deaths (both our citizens and citizens of Iraq) were sure worth it to kill one old guy, fl00d3d.
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Lets take what you’re saying and fill it with other people, lets say Hitler for example.
"Also, yes, thousands of deaths (both our citizens and citizens of Iraq) were sure worth it to kill one old guy." Damn your right not worth it there.
Now let’s see this one old guy orchestrated the killing of thousands of his own people, tortured still more. Your killing this one old guy was it really worth it?
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| Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 01:29 |
Your killing this one old guy was it really worth it?
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No.
Stopping genocide was worth it, but killing for the sake of 'revenge' isn't worth it at all. It doesn't take an entire army to kill one man anyway.
cause = time
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| Re: Ding Dong... [message #237503 is a reply to message #236380] |
Sat, 06 January 2007 00:28 |
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It wasn't about revenge you ignoramous. You're such a half-brained, under educated, inexperienced, ignorant child. Stop talking out of your ass. You have NO life experience whatsoever. If you want to give your opinion on things I'm 100% OK with that as anyone of any age has that right. But the way you present your opinions are as fact and you flame me for mine when I have justification for my beliefs as I have the life experiences you do not.
It WAS worth thousands of lives to accomplish that mission because (a) all of those people swore and oath and knew ahead of time they could die in the line of duty (b) I spent 5+ years in military intelligence and have seen more "reality" than you could have possibly seen on your CNN.
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| xptek wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 00:48 |
| Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 01:29 |
Your killing this one old guy was it really worth it?
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No.
Stopping genocide was worth it, but killing for the sake of 'revenge' isn't worth it at all. It doesn't take an entire army to kill one man anyway.
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sadam killed and tortured thousands of his own people and thats only what we know of. So yeah killing this one old guy was worth it for what he did.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39045
"we now learn that Saddam's torture chambers reopened under new management, U.S. management'' – has had ice-cold water dumped on it by a horrific new video.
“he 4-plus-minute video clip, reportedly obtained from the Pentagon, captures the routine beating, torture, dismemberment and decapitation that occurred daily at the hands of Saddam's henchmen.”
"savage scenes of decapitation, fingers chopped off one by one, tongues hacked out with a razor blade – all while victims shriek in pain and the thugs chant Saddam's praises."
Yeah sounds like revenge don’t it. Unjustified hanging? Real shame to let this old guy die, should have kept him around for more fun times.
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| fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 02:28 |
It wasn't about revenge you ignoramous. You're such a half-brained, under educated, inexperienced, ignorant child. Stop talking out of your ass. You have NO life experience whatsoever. If you want to give your opinion on things I'm 100% OK with that as anyone of any age has that right. But the way you present your opinions are as fact and you flame me for mine when I have justification for my beliefs as I have the life experiences you do not.
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It's amusing that you complain about flaming while flaming.
| fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 02:28 |
(a) all of those people swore and oath and knew ahead of time they could die in the line of duty
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Yeah, and that sure makes every invasion okay.  I'm not sure if you have other friends/family in the military, but for most of them it's definitely not worth it. Not everyone is okay with mindlessly fighting an immoral war.
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(b) I spent 5+ years in military intelligence and have seen more "reality" than you could have possibly seen on your CNN.
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How does this make the war worth it? You need to collect your thoughts a little more, because you seem to be rambling quite a bit.
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| Re: Ding Dong... [message #237558 is a reply to message #236380] |
Sat, 06 January 2007 08:15 |
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| Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 17:01 |
| xptek wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 00:48 |
| Darkknight wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 01:29 |
Your killing this one old guy was it really worth it?
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No.
Stopping genocide was worth it, but killing for the sake of 'revenge' isn't worth it at all. It doesn't take an entire army to kill one man anyway.
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sadam killed and tortured thousands of his own people and thats only what we know of. So yeah killing this one old guy was worth it for what he did.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39045
"we now learn that Saddam's torture chambers reopened under new management, U.S. management'' – has had ice-cold water dumped on it by a horrific new video.
“he 4-plus-minute video clip, reportedly obtained from the Pentagon, captures the routine beating, torture, dismemberment and decapitation that occurred daily at the hands of Saddam's henchmen.”
"savage scenes of decapitation, fingers chopped off one by one, tongues hacked out with a razor blade – all while victims shriek in pain and the thugs chant Saddam's praises."
Yeah sounds like revenge don’t it. Unjustified hanging? Real shame to let this old guy die, should have kept him around for more fun times.
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I do believe xptek means it wasn't worth killing him because of all the drama and revenge associated with his martyrdom. And there could have been alternative reasons to keep him alive.
And fl00d3d you need to cool your jets. You don't need use almost every post you make to bring up your military career. On that note you should probably stop bringing up useless facts about the military as well: "all of those people swore and oath and knew ahead of time they could die in the line of duty" etc.
this is more common than the self-diagnosis of asperger's in the goon population how is it obsCURE FUCKKK
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