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| HOW TO Conduct a cheat-test : Advice for moderators [message #236082] |
Wed, 27 December 2006 18:32  |
fl00d3d
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I'm working with a few people to make a sort of "Cheat Test Tutorial" and I would like to add the suggestions and comments of experienced players and moderators to it.
If anyone has a suggestion, tip, or instruction on how to conduct a proper cheat test (for any cheat) please make a post.
Do NOT include information about the cheats themselves (such as where to download it, how it can circumvent RG, etc.). I'm not interested in that and I'm sure it would be removed by a mod anyway. I only want information relating to the detection and exposure of accused cheaters while in game.
Your quality feedback will benefit the entire community. Knowledgeable posts only, please.
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| Re: HOW TO Conduct a cheat-test : Advice for moderators [message #236101 is a reply to message #236082] |
Wed, 27 December 2006 20:19  |
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Iv'e heard word for a new "BH" hack, works like Supab0dy5! Once you're close, the test is useless, once you're far away, it's visible. 
Iv'e caught one person with it, Just make the guy/gal you're testing stand pretty far away, and make them shoot around your head. Then make them take a Screen Shot. 
Same for Supab0dy5 (yea, talking in 1337 speak will prevent n00b hackers from using g00gle. )
Make the guy/gal stand close to you and make them shoot around you're body, if they do damage, there using Supab0dy5. Worthy of a ban.
R4d4r H4ck, Make the "cheater" stand close to you, and there enemy close to them aswell, Make the "cheater" take a screen shot, There on then, it's obvious!
Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
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| Re: HOW TO Conduct a cheat-test : Advice for moderators [message #236121 is a reply to message #236082] |
Thu, 28 December 2006 00:50 |
fl00d3d
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What if someone is retarded and accidently hits you during the test, but they're clean. That's not completely conclusive - but I see what you're getting at (already knew that one). As for the radar hack, its near impossible as they can now turn it off during game. -_-
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| Re: HOW TO Conduct a cheat-test : Advice for moderators [message #236126 is a reply to message #236121] |
Thu, 28 December 2006 02:30 |
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| fl00d3d wrote on Thu, 28 December 2006 01:50 |
What if someone is retarded and accidently hits you during the test, but they're clean. That's not completely conclusive - but I see what you're getting at (already knew that one). As for the radar hack, its near impossible as they can now turn it off during game. -_-
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Heh, I don't check cheat site's that much, lol.
I just ask or wait for someone to inform me. lol
But a few people have been caught with maybe a older version of Radar hack.
As for the retarded-ness of some people, I would just ask them to repeat my instructions, if they hit me again (even if they were hitting me on purpose) I would still ban them, Not for hacking, But for the stupidity! 
EDIT: I fucked my first post up, lol. superbodys, Make them stand FAR away and shoot around you.
Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
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| Re: HOW TO Conduct a cheat-test : Advice for moderators [message #236179 is a reply to message #236161] |
Thu, 28 December 2006 11:43 |
fl00d3d
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| SeargentSarg wrote on Thu, 28 December 2006 12:08 |
If they are playing in regular, then if you tell them to switch to windowed mode, they will be forced to shutdown renegade, possibly removing all hacks, putting on windowed mode, and then they are clean. Nice one.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking. There is no way (other than tabbing out, which would leave the game process running). But then again, anyone with half a brain would just kill the process you're referring to.
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| Re: HOW TO Conduct a cheat-test : Advice for moderators [message #236213 is a reply to message #236206] |
Thu, 28 December 2006 16:02 |
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btw RGH: the rgh gui is only to set the options a bit more comfortable than editing the .ini file by hand. and its to inject the hook into the renegade/renguard process.
so the main rgh part isnt a process or something. you can safely close the rgh gui after renegade/renguard is launched. rgh is then a part of the renegade/renguard process it was injected into.
so you wont notice it in the taskman anyways.
just in case you are interested.
regards,
0x90
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| Re: HOW TO Conduct a cheat-test : Advice for moderators [message #237978 is a reply to message #236221] |
Mon, 08 January 2007 07:36 |
dead6re
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| SeargentSarg wrote on Thu, 28 December 2006 18:44 |
Ah, you can notice the cpu & ram usage to see if they have *cheat name removed* inserted!
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Or, if like me, use NoFear.dll (Private) then your usage will go up. Other reasons for going up could be altared scripts.dll/bhs.dll. Good job, but I like my dll.
Let all your wishes be granted except one, so you will still have something to strieve for.
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| Re: HOW TO Conduct a cheat-test : Advice for moderators [message #238238 is a reply to message #236082] |
Tue, 09 January 2007 15:46 |
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Look at the K/D Percentage. If someone has let's say 70 kills 2 deaths, the person is probably cheating.
Another thing:
Let the person shoot you in the legg with a pistol. If it's 1 shot kill in the legg, ban him. Also let him right click fire you with pistol, it might be that you are healed again. Instant heal hacks in that case.
Let someone fire at a wall with autorifle or sniper, when someone is behind that wall. If he kills the person, he's using wallhacks.
Let someone fire at a turret or empty tank with a mobile rocket launcher system. If the health drains drmatically, he is also hacking. MRLS have infinite ammo and almost no reload time then.
Let the person left click an unbound tank with the pistol and let him right click it. I prefer to test on harvester. If vehicle gets instant kill...he cheats.
Let the person equip a timed c4 and let him use it on harvester from a decent range. If the harvester is killed instantly, the player cheats...This is part of the Immortalkillheavy cheat, I know the effects cause I tested the cheat.
Also let the player fire at the Nod Cargo Plane when delivering a new vehicle. If your vehicle get's stuck in the air or falls out of the map, the player is cheating again.
Hope this helps a bit, cause I have tested multiple cheats a while ago. I know almost every cheateffect.
You can see the movie I made, where I show off the ImmortalKillHeavy cheat here, i'm also testing a Renguard bypass, and you can't believe it, but only 3 of 28 players typed !rg tcusniper to see if I was cheating. No-one knew I was cheating and they didn't even notice in-game.
Youtube Cheating Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpL01E9qiPo
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| Re: HOW TO Conduct a cheat-test : Advice for moderators [message #238253 is a reply to message #238238] |
Tue, 09 January 2007 16:57 |
MexPirate
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| darksnipa wrote on Tue, 09 January 2007 23:46 |
Look at the K/D Percentage. If someone has let's say 70 kills 2 deaths, the person is probably cheating.
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Or maybe they are good
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Another thing:
Let the person shoot you in the legg with a pistol. If it's 1 shot kill in the legg, ban him. Also let him right click fire you with pistol, it might be that you are healed again. Instant heal hacks in that case.
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Damage hacks are usually right click only, obviously he would shoot with said left click only
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Let someone fire at a wall with autorifle or sniper, when someone is behind that wall. If he kills the person, he's using wallhacks.
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retarded, how are you going to tell if he lined the shot up correctly - a screenshot would be much more effective although I doubt that many people really use wall hacks any more.
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Let someone fire at a turret or empty tank with a mobile rocket launcher system. If the health drains drmatically, he is also hacking. MRLS have infinite ammo and almost no reload time then.
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Sorry what? u mean if someone is using final ren? pretty sure you don't need to test for that tbh.
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Let the person left click an unbound tank with the pistol and let him right click it. I prefer to test on harvester. If vehicle gets instant kill...he cheats.
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See above
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Let the person equip a timed c4 and let him use it on harvester from a decent range. If the harvester is killed instantly, the player cheats...This is part of the Immortalkillheavy cheat, I know the effects cause I tested the cheat.
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Pretty sure that c4 damage is controlled server side and it can't be altered by hacks
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Also let the player fire at the Nod Cargo Plane when delivering a new vehicle. If your vehicle get's stuck in the air or falls out of the map, the player is cheating again.
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Hope this helps a bit, cause I have tested multiple cheats a while ago. I know almost every cheateffect.
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No, and obviously you havn't.
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You can see the movie I made, where I show off the ImmortalKillHeavy cheat here, i'm also testing a Renguard bypass, and you can't believe it, but only 3 of 28 players typed !rg tcusniper to see if I was cheating. No-one knew I was cheating and they didn't even notice in-game.
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I am pretty sure we can believe it and know about it - you are fucking retarded coming here saying you are cheating in public servers and using an rg bypass on a forum moderated by Crimson from BHS
Now, perhaps if Crimson would be so kind as to provide your IP so server owners can ban you as well as implementing a renguard ban we can all have a good laugh at how COMPLETELY FUCKING RETARDED YOU ARE.
It's a mexican pirate .... F*ck a dog by Blink 182
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| Re: HOW TO Conduct a cheat-test : Advice for moderators [message #238255 is a reply to message #238238] |
Tue, 09 January 2007 17:08 |
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| darksnipa wrote on Tue, 09 January 2007 16:46 |
Look at the K/D Percentage. If someone has let's say 70 kills 2 deaths, the person is probably cheating.
Another thing:
Let the person shoot you in the legg with a pistol. If it's 1 shot kill in the legg, ban him. Also let him right click fire you with pistol, it might be that you are healed again. Instant heal hacks in that case.
Let someone fire at a wall with autorifle or sniper, when someone is behind that wall. If he kills the person, he's using wallhacks.
Let someone fire at a turret or empty tank with a mobile rocket launcher system. If the health drains drmatically, he is also hacking. MRLS have infinite ammo and almost no reload time then.
Let the person left click an unbound tank with the pistol and let him right click it. I prefer to test on harvester. If vehicle gets instant kill...he cheats.
Let the person equip a timed c4 and let him use it on harvester from a decent range. If the harvester is killed instantly, the player cheats...This is part of the Immortalkillheavy cheat, I know the effects cause I tested the cheat.
Also let the player fire at the Nod Cargo Plane when delivering a new vehicle. If your vehicle get's stuck in the air or falls out of the map, the player is cheating again.
Hope this helps a bit, cause I have tested multiple cheats a while ago. I know almost every cheateffect.
You can see the movie I made, where I show off the ImmortalKillHeavy cheat here, i'm also testing a Renguard bypass, and you can't believe it, but only 3 of 28 players typed !rg tcusniper to see if I was cheating. No-one knew I was cheating and they didn't even notice in-game.
Youtube Cheating Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpL01E9qiPo
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are you by any chance a dumbass?
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